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[Gorkan86]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

Cuz Harby run out of thermal clips,and failed to finish Shepard, so he flew to replenish ammunition.

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

This is a reaper that can sense organics......He would know Shepard is dead, not assume.

[Unschuld]

At this point I'm having a hard time deciding which would be better if IT turned out to be true; getting explanation & closure from a previously convoluted ending or getting to see IT'ers bake a humble pie for the ones who so vehemently proclaimed it a fallacy with no basis.

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Also, if everything that happened after Shepard is cut down is a dream then that would mean that the harbinger you see leaving is a dream. It did  not happen.

So, everything that happens to Shepard after it hit by Harby's laser is a dream(or hallutination)?

That's IT''s Theory.
It's ether every thing is a dream or everything is a warped hallutination.

So those Husks fellas and Marauder(Shields) are trying to kill Shepard not truly? Cuz, if you not shoot them, they will kill you, and you have "game over" message.

All part of the trick. Same case with allowing David to up load himself in overlord.

For scientific experiment?

No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

Cuz Harby run out of thermal clips,and failed to finish Shepard, so he flew to replenish ammunition.

*Harbinger sees Shep's alive but critically ingured.
*But harbinger can't fire because he is out of thermal clips.
*Harbinger lift one of his tenticals and squished Shepard to death.
....

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 avril 2012 - 04:42 .

[Iconoclaste]

dreman9999 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Agian , what proof do you have that the ending is real? You using the basis that every thing you see is reality, which is a flawe form of making a calulation with  machines that can mess with peoples minds.

You can see these machines happily blowing the alliance to pieces in the background. Why show that to Shepard?

Then why haven't they destoryed the curcible yet. Why did Harbinger attack Shepard when It would be better to attack the crucible? Why did Harbinger attack the crucible next after attacking Shepard?
Really, if the crucible is gone....What can Shepard do to stop the reapers?
I would thing they show all those ships being destoryed to make a person despret and to erge them to quickly make a choice.

Those ships were already getting a beating before Shepard even start to run for the Conduit. Why would that have magically changed up with the kid? If many soldiers had managed to make it to the Citadel, then the Reapers would not have had a chance to prevent the Crucible from being fired from "inside". Harbinger was not the only Reaper around, and honestly, how could he have known in advance what would be the best course of action, not  even knowing what was the "Crucible"? (supposedly : a type III civilization device)...

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 27 avril 2012 - 04:42 .

[Gorkan86]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Also, if everything that happened after Shepard is cut down is a dream then that would mean that the harbinger you see leaving is a dream. It did  not happen.

So, everything that happens to Shepard after it hit by Harby's laser is a dream(or hallutination)?

That's IT''s Theory.
It's ether every thing is a dream or everything is a warped hallutination.

So those Husks fellas and Marauder(Shields) are trying to kill Shepard not truly? Cuz, if you not shoot them, they will kill you, and you have "game over" message.

All part of the trick. Same case with allowing David to up load himself in overlord.

For scientific experiment?

No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

And we see it, when he breathes lying in a pile of rubble?
I thought for a moment, it was already in the first part of the game. This is the same that the Sovereign has made with a Saren's dead body . Only without convulsions and red lightning.

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

This is a reaper that can sense organics......He would know Shepard is dead, not assume.

Okay, assuming he can sense organics (I mean, I suppose he can but I don't recally any particular codex entry to that effect), how can he pick Shepard off from the rest?

[Iconoclaste]

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

And we see it, when he breathes lying in a pile of rubble?
I thought for a moment, it was already in the first part of the game. This is the same that the Sovereign has made with a Saren's dead body . Only without convulsions and red lightning.

The "Eternal DLC" :  Shepard wakes up, Harby fires again, Shepard gets back to sleep another weird dream, with minimal control for the player.

Next Dlc : guess what...

[dreman9999]

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Agian , what proof do you have that the ending is real? You using the basis that every thing you see is reality, which is a flawe form of making a calulation with  machines that can mess with peoples minds.

You can see these machines happily blowing the alliance to pieces in the background. Why show that to Shepard?

Then why haven't they destoryed the curcible yet. Why did Harbinger attack Shepard when It would be better to attack the crucible? Why did Harbinger attack the crucible next after attacking Shepard?
Really, if the crucible is gone....What can Shepard do to stop the reapers?
I would thing they show all those ships being destoryed to make a person despret and to erge them to quickly make a choice.

Those ships were already getting a beating before Shepard even start to run for the Conduit. Why would that have magically changed up with the kid? If many soldiers had managed to make it to the Citadel, then the Reapers would not have had a chance to prevent the Crucible from being fired from "inside". Harbinger was not the only Reaper around, and honestly, how could he have known in advance what would be the best course of action, not  even knowing what was the "Crucible"? (supposedly : a type III civilization device)...

That doesn't matter.That sight of there distuction imlpies that the crucible will evetully be attacked next. This make a persom want to hurry with a choice being that they soon will not have the choice avalible. This also counters that fact that this is really happening, If the star child is in control and want Shep to make a chioce that benifits everyone, why is he continuing to allow the reaper to attack if he is in control of them?Also, reapers have qec, Harbinger would not be the only one to know about team hammer trying to get on to the citadel.

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 avril 2012 - 04:51 .

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

This is a reaper that can sense organics......He would know Shepard is dead, not assume.

Okay, assuming he can sense organics (I mean, I suppose he can but I don't recally any particular codex entry to that effect), how can he pick Shepard off from the rest?

You make it sound like he doesn't know what Shepard look like and has a limited level of sight and senses. This is the reaper who was tracking you down for most of ME2.

[Gorkan86]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Why didn't he kill Shepard?

Oh, that one's easy: because he thought Shepard was dead.

Cuz Harby run out of thermal clips,and failed to finish Shepard, so he flew to replenish ammunition.

*Harbinger sees Shep's alive but critically ingured.
*But harbinger can't fire because he is out of thermal clips.
*Harbinger lift one of his tenticals and squished Shepard to death.
....

* Harbringer gets the radio and said: "officer Shields, I need your best team to ensure the death of Shepard. I've compiled a list of the best candidates".
* Officer Shields said: "hold your list, I already have a team of cool professionals with whom I am ready to go to hell and back".
* "Hacket out".

[DJBare]

Damn quoting system!

Modifié par DJBare, 27 avril 2012 - 04:52 .

[dreman9999]

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Also, if everything that happened after Shepard is cut down is a dream then that would mean that the harbinger you see leaving is a dream. It did  not happen.

So, everything that happens to Shepard after it hit by Harby's laser is a dream(or hallutination)?

That's IT''s Theory.
It's ether every thing is a dream or everything is a warped hallutination.

So those Husks fellas and Marauder(Shields) are trying to kill Shepard not truly? Cuz, if you not shoot them, they will kill you, and you have "game over" message.

All part of the trick. Same case with allowing David to up load himself in overlord.

For scientific experiment?

No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

And we see it, when he breathes lying in a pile of rubble?
I thought for a moment, it was already in the first part of the game. This is the same that the Sovereign has made with a Saren's dead body . Only without convulsions and red lightning.

List time I check, based off of IT, Shepard only wakes up when he bets Indoctrination. Dieing in a dream is not beting indoctrination.

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

You make it sound like he doesn't know what Shepard look like and has a limited level of sight and senses. This is the reaper who was tracking you down for most of ME2.

No, you said Harbinger wouldn't leave because he can "sense" organics. I took that to mean he uses something other than sight because, when Shepard wakes up, Harbinger is already leaving the battlefield.

[Gorkan86]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

And we see it, when he breathes lying in a pile of rubble?
I thought for a moment, it was already in the first part of the game. This is the same that the Sovereign has made with a Saren's dead body . Only without convulsions and red lightning.

The "Eternal DLC" :  Shepard wakes up, Harby fires again, Shepard gets back to sleep another weird dream, with minimal control for the player.

Next Dlc : guess what...

Groundhog Day DLC.
"Shepard wakes up in the citadel..."

[Iconoclaste]

dreman9999 wrote...
That doesn't matter.That sight of there distuction imlpies that the crucible will evetully be attacked next. This make a persom want to hurry with a choice being that they soon will not have the choice avalible. This also counters that fact that this is really happening, If the star child is in control and want Shep to make a chioce that benifits everyone, why is he continuing to allow the reaper to attack if he is in control of them?Also, reapers have qec, Harbinger would not be the only one to know about team hammer trying to get on to the citadel.

Someone had suggested that the kid was, in fact, Sovereign, who had uploaded himself on the Citadel before being destroyed at the end of ME1. Being trapped inside the Citadel (no way to comm. out, Keepers modified by protheans), Sovereign decided to "move" the Citadel himself to Earth to begin the attack.

But the problem is that, anyways, the Reapers will not stop attacking if not ordered to. Since they could not communicate with the Catalyst (whoever he is), he is not really "controlling" them at that point.

And Hackett told the teams that were preparing the run for the Beam that "Harbinger and some other Reapers broke-off from battle and are heading towards you". So Harby was not alone.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 27 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[balance5050]

The Angry One wrote...

If Gamble thinks the best ending isn't destroy, that proves to me the best ending is destroy.

HAHA! here here!

[Gorkan86]

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Also, if everything that happened after Shepard is cut down is a dream then that would mean that the harbinger you see leaving is a dream. It did  not happen.

So, everything that happens to Shepard after it hit by Harby's laser is a dream(or hallutination)?

That's IT''s Theory.
It's ether every thing is a dream or everything is a warped hallutination.

So those Husks fellas and Marauder(Shields) are trying to kill Shepard not truly? Cuz, if you not shoot them, they will kill you, and you have "game over" message.

All part of the trick. Same case with allowing David to up load himself in overlord.

For scientific experiment?

No, even if Shep dies in his dream, the reapers can still indoctrinate him any way.

And we see it, when he breathes lying in a pile of rubble?
I thought for a moment, it was already in the first part of the game. This is the same that the Sovereign has made with a Saren's dead body . Only without convulsions and red lightning.

List time I check, based off of IT, Shepard only wakes up when he bets Indoctrination. Dieing in a dream is not beting indoctrination.

Shepard only wakes up when he collects a lot of war assets.  How it affects his ability to resist indoctrination?  Dreadnoughts crews, and ground forces, provide moral support for Shepard?

[Ieldra]

Xellith wrote...
twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/195308506214187008

Mike Gamble said...

Personally, I don't think the best ending is destroy, actually.

Good!

[Unschuld]

Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard only wakes up when he collects a lot of war assets.  How it affects his ability to resist indoctrination?  Dreadnoughts crews, and ground forces, provide moral support for Shepard?

Pretty much. It's a gameplay mechanic, how would you have it work?

[Makrys]

Unschuld wrote...

At this point I'm having a hard time deciding which would be better if IT turned out to be true; getting explanation & closure from a previously convoluted ending or getting to see IT'ers bake a humble pie for the ones who so vehemently proclaimed it a fallacy with no basis.

I can't wait to point the finger in their face. God, I'm such a jerk. 

[OdanUrr]

Makrys wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

At this point I'm having a hard time deciding which would be better if IT turned out to be true; getting explanation & closure from a previously convoluted ending or getting to see IT'ers bake a humble pie for the ones who so vehemently proclaimed it a fallacy with no basis.

I can't wait to point the finger in their face. God, I'm such a jerk. 

"Do unto others..."

[DJBare]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xellith wrote...
twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/195308506214187008

Mike Gamble said...

Personally, I don't think the best ending is destroy, actually.

Good!

And now for some balance.

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195619323212070912

Good!

[Gorkan86]

Unschuld wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

Shepard only wakes up when he collects a lot of war assets.  How it affects his ability to resist indoctrination?  Dreadnoughts crews, and ground forces, provide moral support for Shepard?

Pretty much. It's a gameplay mechanic, how would you have it work?

You know, many things can be explained by gameplay mechanic. But nobody seems to care.