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[Gorkan86]

DJBare wrote...

And now for some balance.

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195619323212070912

Good!

Now we need an opinion from somebody of BioWare on the synthesis ending.

[Makrys]

OdanUrr wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

At this point I'm having a hard time deciding which would be better if IT turned out to be true; getting explanation & closure from a previously convoluted ending or getting to see IT'ers bake a humble pie for the ones who so vehemently proclaimed it a fallacy with no basis.

I can't wait to point the finger in their face. God, I'm such a jerk. 

"Do unto others..."

As they would do unto you. 

[DJBare]

Gorkan86 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

And now for some balance.

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195619323212070912

Good!

Now we need an opinion from somebody of BioWare on the synthesis ending.

Mr Gamble had already tweeted he thought synthesis was the best ending, I don't have the tweet, but I'm sure someone around here does.

[Gorkan86]

Wait, what?

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195616789441413120

Shepard controlling the Reapers would no longer be "Shep" as we understand it.
Shepard controlling the Reapers?
He really can control them?

Modifié par Gorkan86, 27 avril 2012 - 05:39 .

[Unschuld]

DJBare wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

And now for some balance.

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195619323212070912

Good!

Now we need an opinion from somebody of BioWare on the synthesis ending.

Mr Gamble had already tweeted he thought synthesis was the best ending, I don't have the tweet, but I'm sure someone around here does.

So in other words, Jessica Merizen is the only Bioware employee that hasn't been indoctrinated.

[DJBare]

Gorkan86 wrote...

Wait, what?

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195616789441413120

Shepard controlling the Reapers would no longer be "Shep" as we understand it.
Shepard controlling the Reapers?
He really can control them?

Shepard, a single mind
www.youtube.com/watch
I'm sure he will be fine and dandy.

[OdanUrr]

Gorkan86 wrote...

Wait, what?

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195616789441413120

Shepard controlling the Reapers would no longer be "Shep" as we understand it.
Shepard controlling the Reapers?
He really can control them?

How am I supposed to answer this? Somehow, a simple "yes" wouldn't cut it. So I'm going with "yes" and "no" here.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

You know how I am able to get some responses guys? I ask nicely. It works like magic, really. And when I mean ask nicely I don't mean have more cussing in a twitter post than in a Lil Wayne song.

[macrocarl]

Since the end is about interpretation, if you view it as IT then Destroy is a solid choice. If you view the ending as hard fact at face value, then one of the other ones may feel correct. IT still stands, it's never been definitive, just a theory. That's what the 'T' stands for in 'IT'.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

macrocarl wrote...

Since the end is about interpretation, if you view it as IT then Destroy is a solid choice. If you view the ending as hard fact at face value, then one of the other ones may feel correct. IT still stands, it's never been definitive, just a theory. That's what the 'T' stands for in 'IT'.

Even then, I'm going with destroy. Cause screw the reapers and their motivs. 

Sorry geth and EDI.

[Gorkan86]

OdanUrr wrote...

Gorkan86 wrote...

Wait, what?

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/195616789441413120

Shepard controlling the Reapers would no longer be "Shep" as we understand it.
Shepard controlling the Reapers?
He really can control them?

How am I supposed to answer this? Somehow, a simple "yes" wouldn't cut it. So I'm going with "yes" and "no" here.

Maybe someone who use a Twitter may ask Jessica about it. It seems she is not trying to hide something from the community.
Therefore, I beg you guys, twitter users, ask her.

Modifié par Gorkan86, 27 avril 2012 - 06:29 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I think what she means is that shepard becomes the catalyst. Like, shepard gave up his/her organic body to take on a newer role. Which...I don't know. Cool I guess? I'd rather have shepard's body intact and help my quarian build the house on rannoch GODS DAMMNED IT!

[Omega Torsk]

Xellith wrote...

twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/195308506214187008

Mike Gamble said...

Personally, I don't think the best ending is destroy, actually.

[SubAstris]

dreman9999 wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

Good post. Of course, many IT theorists will just say that it doesn't matter, however none have presented a very convincing reasons for why IT can still be true. Some say BW are playing games, but if so, how could you ever find out they are telling the truth? If IT is true, then he could have just have said, "wait and see", or "we want the players to decide", but instead he gave a decisive response assuming the ending to be taken as face value

You don't....not until the content is releases and we all see exactly what the EC contains. Also note that Gamble carefully chooses his words and says that "personally"....that means little, we have no idea where most of the team stands aside frrom the disgraced Casey and Walters.

Patrick Weekes refused to respond to the IT question by saying that any reply on the matter would be too spoilerish.

Presumably Gamble would stand by any creative decision BW make in regards to the ending (he would lose his job otherwise). The implication by using the word "personally" is that he does not like the ending of destroy taken at face value, because of the inevitable death of synthetics that will ensue. He is assuming the ending to be taken literally. For IT to work or be a possibility, Gamble would have said nothing, deflected the question or most unlikely, said destroy was the best option (as most IT theorists agree it is). However, such an event did not occur, even fact the exact opposite of what would have shown IT to be true would have happened. I think such comment from many IT theorists (I am not necessarily implicating you) shows a level of hypocrisy; if Gamble said something which alleged IT, then they would be screaming to the rafters that there was undeniable evidence, but now of course they can only deny and say that BW is playing games

I frankly don't care what Weekes said, we have evidence from another valid source; if he wants to give a little clue as to what actually happened in the end, or accidentally gave it away, then that is his choice and or problem. I can only go where the evidence leads, and seems as though Gamble was saying this in the context of the ending being taken at face value

Question, was his statement based on a perfenceon the base ending for Shepard or the dramaticly done ending?

Given that the three choices differ very little from each other in terms of what you actually see, it is hard to have a preference based on that. It is therefore more logical to assume that he was talking about the impact of the endings rather than their content

[hammerfan]

NoSpin wrote...

 Once you eliminate the impossible (that Bioware could have such a lapse of great storytelling and plot holes in only a single 10 min section of the game)

Not impossible. Which you yourself point out a few sentences later.

NoSpin wrote... 

You could be right, and Bioware just wrote a sucky ending.

[darkchief10]

i personally don't like IT because because then it begs the question? Is Sheppard really alive? or did the events of the last two games happen in his mind as he was dying out in space after getting blown away by the collectors?

[dreman9999]

darkchief10 wrote...

i personally don't like IT because because then it begs the question? Is Sheppard really alive? or did the events of the last two games happen in his mind as he was dying out in space after getting blown away by the collectors?

It thereis other perdpective to the over all story, the ME books and the comics. If their isother perspective then that means there is more then one witness to the event inhand. This mean what Shepard did from the last games are real.

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

You make it sound like he doesn't know what Shepard look like and has a limited level of sight and senses. This is the reaper who was tracking you down for most of ME2.

No, you said Harbinger wouldn't leave because he can "sense" organics. I took that to mean he uses something other than sight because, when Shepard wakes up, Harbinger is already leaving the battlefield.

That's point . The fact that he leaves when he has these level of senses and reconition of Shepard begs to the question to why he leaves. Reaperare machines with a history of great deception, to apply this concept to the reapers actions is a logic one. Some thing is up. Do we even know what we are seeingreally happened based on the history of reaper massingwith peoples minds?

[WhiteKnyght]

Shaigunjoe wrote...

I think parts of indoctrination theory still hold, Shep was definitely under indoc attacks throughout the game. I never liked the whole 'indoc means destroy is the best ending' argument.

Having nightmares means you're indoctrinated? Gee, every living being since the beginning of time must be indoctrinated then.

Shepard's dreams were sparked by guilt over the people he couldn't save. Indoctrination dreams are about the Reapers. Did you see any Reapers in Shep's dreams? No!

[dreman9999]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Shaigunjoe wrote...

I think parts of indoctrination theory still hold, Shep was definitely under indoc attacks throughout the game. I never liked the whole 'indoc means destroy is the best ending' argument.

Having nightmares means you're indoctrinated? Gee, every living being since the beginning of time must be indoctrinated then.

Shepard's dreams were sparked by guilt over the people he couldn't save. Indoctrination dreams are about the Reapers. Did you see any Reapers in Shep's dreams? No!

It's not just having nightmares. It being near reaper tech for year and getting in drect contact to a reaper device, then having strang dreams with wispers, which are symtoms of indoctrination that put Shepard under suspect of indoctrination....
Read some facts about it....
http://social.biowar...75/blog/212630/

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 avril 2012 - 02:17 .

[sydranark]

Xellith wrote...

twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/195308506214187008

Mike Gamble said...

Personally, I don't think the best ending is destroy, actually.

Looking more and more likely that the ending we got was actually real and Bioware just completely forgot how to make a decent RPG right at the end.

This clarification DLC seems like its going to clear up that it wasnt indoctrination and that the ending just sucks.  Seems its likely part of their "artistic vision" to have a sucky ending.

Maybe that have some epic ME2 quality dlc planned?  /shrug

This is one of those, "santa isn't real" moments. 

However, I do find it amazing that fans created an ending out of absolute garbage. An ending that actually makes a whole lot more sense than the one provided by BW. They could have saved themselves, and went with it. "Oh yeah, Shepard was indoctrinated, alright. :whistle:" 

[Blue Liara]

All these twitter posts are meaningless. They say absolutely nothing and that is the point. They want to keep on feeding us little bits of hope and misinformation so we can keep thinking that the ending DLC might actually be good.

They are afraid of giving us any firm hint about anything IT or otherwise because they know it will likely garner a bad reaction.

This is mainly because they don't care and care more about their ARTISTIC INTEGRITY.
You know that made up excuse for everything wrong with this game. From the horrible endings to Tali's stock photo face.

[wolfstanus]

Simple quote of a "maybe" yup this proves it all...

But my real reaction is.