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[KevShep]

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

[crimzontearz]

lx_theo wrote...

crimzontearz wrote..."about the endings, yes we are listening"no, you are hearings us but you are not listening

They are listening, but not obeying like lapdogs

oh AWWWW you mad bro? wanna quote Woo even more literally?

If you ask for feedback on changes and then you say "yeah that's grand but our way is better so we are still gonna do it our way" then de facto you are NOT listening. Especially after BS comments like " oh we had nooooo idea there would be high demand for closure"

[Taboo]

Fingertrip wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I don't get it OP? What "another" blow? What's the previous blow?

What's to stop him from being a fan of Saren's ideal or TIM ideals of controlling or becoming part- of the Reaper?

This isn't exactly a debunk. If they wanted to debunk the IT theory, they would have done it by now, yet they have not- and they've been consecutively tease and hint about it both in-game and tweet-wise.

Not only that but they wont come out and say why Harbinger was silent and mostly absent from ME3.  That is what makes we wonder.  I believe that Harbinger's absence is linked to the IT.

Considering the "Starchild" character model in-game is named Harbinger, I don't think there's any need for speculations. It's more or less a fact, the problem is spreading it to everyone.

Altho, I guess to some degree with it being somewhat of a secrecy, the better to reap the reward of curioisity and knowledge over the ones that are ignorant over the facts, during the day of reckoning. I guess why the hush-hush over it.

It will be a joyful day, the day of EC release.

That was debunked. Check your facts.

[Sousabird]

People whined to much about the ending
but the worst is like, the catalyst is so bs
yeh well newsflash the biotics aren't that legit either

[DTKT]

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

Or at least, in my non-believing state, I don't see it as "proof" of anything. At best, it's kind of cute. An AI speaking with the voices of male and female Shepard. How quaint.

Modifié par DTKT, 26 avril 2012 - 01:55 .

[Taboo]

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 26 avril 2012 - 01:56 .

[Fingertrip]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I don't get it OP? What "another" blow? What's the previous blow?

What's to stop him from being a fan of Saren's ideal or TIM ideals of controlling or becoming part- of the Reaper?

This isn't exactly a debunk. If they wanted to debunk the IT theory, they would have done it by now, yet they have not- and they've been consecutively tease and hint about it both in-game and tweet-wise.

Not only that but they wont come out and say why Harbinger was silent and mostly absent from ME3.  That is what makes we wonder.  I believe that Harbinger's absence is linked to the IT.

Considering the "Starchild" character model in-game is named Harbinger, I don't think there's any need for speculations. It's more or less a fact, the problem is spreading it to everyone.

Altho, I guess to some degree with it being somewhat of a secrecy, the better to reap the reward of curioisity and knowledge over the ones that are ignorant over the facts, during the day of reckoning. I guess why the hush-hush over it.

It will be a joyful day, the day of EC release.

That was debunked. Check your facts.

Actually, if you induldge yourself into having a peak in the actual files, you'll find that the character- Starchild is indeed Harbinger. Don't take other people's words for granted.

It was not debunked. Check your facts.

[Ponei]

Mr. Gamble is indoctrinated!

[DTKT]

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

Indeed.

The IT is the bigfoot of videogames. The only difference as that we will have an answer in a few months. That's going to be fun.

[KevShep]

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

[Mr.House]

The fact that Bioware thinks Destroy is the worse and Merge is the best just makes me want to puke.

[Taboo]

Fingertrip wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

I don't get it OP? What "another" blow? What's the previous blow?

What's to stop him from being a fan of Saren's ideal or TIM ideals of controlling or becoming part- of the Reaper?

This isn't exactly a debunk. If they wanted to debunk the IT theory, they would have done it by now, yet they have not- and they've been consecutively tease and hint about it both in-game and tweet-wise.

Not only that but they wont come out and say why Harbinger was silent and mostly absent from ME3.  That is what makes we wonder.  I believe that Harbinger's absence is linked to the IT.

Considering the "Starchild" character model in-game is named Harbinger, I don't think there's any need for speculations. It's more or less a fact, the problem is spreading it to everyone.

Altho, I guess to some degree with it being somewhat of a secrecy, the better to reap the reward of curioisity and knowledge over the ones that are ignorant over the facts, during the day of reckoning. I guess why the hush-hush over it.

It will be a joyful day, the day of EC release.

That was debunked. Check your facts.

Actually, if you induldge yourself into having a peak in the actual files, you'll find that the character- Starchild is indeed Harbinger. Don't take other people's words for granted.

It was not debunked. Check your facts.

Have you checked the files? Or did you check out that picture of the little boy that said HARBINGER? Yeah, that photo was debunked. You have nothing.

[Cainora]

Mr.House wrote...

The fact that Bioware thinks Destroy is the worse and Merge is the best just makes me want to puke.

You and me both.

[KevShep]

DTKT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

Indeed.

The IT is the bigfoot of videogames. The only difference as that we will have an answer in a few months. That's going to be fun.

 This is the part of all ot this that is so maddaning......... The devs WOULD NOT put that in there without a really good reason. Why would they make the same scripts for both shepard VA's and the kid? Not one of the anti-I.T. people can answer that question!

You have to be blind to not see it!

[Taboo]

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

You can SEE Bigfoot in the Patterson-Gimlin film but scientists still don't believe it. It is considered "evidence" as well. It doesn't mean anything without a legitimate organism.

Occam's Razor and the scientific method suggest the obvious. Bioware intended the endings to be the way they are right now. They messed up and big time.

[KevShep]

Cainora wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The fact that Bioware thinks Destroy is the worse and Merge is the best just makes me want to puke.

You and me both.

One person does not mean that the whole of Bioware thinks like that.

[Seryl]

Mr.House wrote...

The fact that Bioware thinks Destroy is the worse and Merge is the best just makes me want to puke.

It's really disturbing. Synthesis forces conformity and the removal of anything that's distinct, in order to try to avoid a conflict. Control advocates rewriting another being's mind. That's disgusting at best.

Destroy is the only moral choice. The other two are just monstrous.

[Taboo]

KevShep wrote...

DTKT wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

Indeed.

The IT is the bigfoot of videogames. The only difference as that we will have an answer in a few months. That's going to be fun.

 This is the part of all ot this that is so maddaning......... The devs WOULD NOT put that in there without a really good reason. Why would they make the same scripts for both shepard VA's and the kid? Not one of the anti-I.T. people can answer that question!

You have to be blind to not see it!

Or they were going for a art movie vibe like in a David Lynch film. I've seen this before. It means nothing. It's innocuous.

[FatalX7.0]

Sousabird wrote...

People whined to much about the ending
but the worst is like, the catalyst is so bs
yeh well newsflash the biotics aren't that legit either

At least they actually tried to explain Biotics, give it a logical and scientific reason.

Now all of a sudden we have a supernatural God Child from the great beyond.

[DTKT]

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

But there are different ways to view that particular thing. To me, it's nothing more than a small "easter egg". Like the scene where you see Shepard breathing. It has no real purpose, it's just a small nugget of "cool".

And I'm exporting the child model as we speak. I will find out for myself!

[KevShep]

Taboo-XX wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

You can SEE Bigfoot in the Patterson-Gimlin film but scientists still don't believe it. It is considered "evidence" as well. It doesn't mean anything without a legitimate organism.

Occam's Razor and the scientific method suggest the obvious. Bioware intended the endings to be the way they are right now. They messed up and big time.

No...there is no proof in any of those videos because you can just say that it is a man in a suit. However...............................................You CAN hear shepard in the background of the catalyst voice.

What are you not understanding? Its not a maybe its a fact!

[OH-UP-THIS!]

HopHazzard wrote...

The thing I don't get about IT, and maybe I'm wrong, is that it seems to rely on the notion that BioWare sold us a game without an ending. At least that's the impression I get. I don't see how that's actually preferable to BioWare selling us a game with a bad ending.

If Bioware had intended to give us this exquisite plot twist, they waited far to long to implement it.

I was vehemently holding on to this idea, but now it's way to late to play it out favourably, because if Bioware were to insert it now, too many people would say, " yeah only because WE thought of it first".

[Darth_Trethon]

All there is to be said here is the EC had better be good.....I don't know whether they are capable of comprehending the fact that most of their core fans are getting ready to drop them and all the things that will do to their future sales but if they didn't get it yet they better get it soon.

If they were smart they'd stay quiet, adopt the IT and claim that it's obvious they meant that all along.....but frankly all I want is a good and decend ending.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 26 avril 2012 - 02:09 .

[FatalX7.0]

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

But there are different ways to view that particular thing. To me, it's nothing more than a small "easter egg". Like the scene where you see Shepard breathing. It has no real purpose, it's just a small nugget of "cool".

And I'm exporting the child model as we speak. I will find out for myself!

The Catalyst's voice is a combination of the child's, Mark Meer's and Jennifer Hale's voices.

[Taboo]

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

DTKT wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Indoctrination IS correct....

There is just no getting past the FACT that it is Shepard's voice speaking through the catalyst's voice reapeating everything the catalyst is saying at the end. This PROVES that the I.T. is true. You have to hear it with headphones or you will not hear it(because it is hard to hear...at first). The right ear piece is maleshep and the left ear piece is Femshep, Listen to them one ear piece at a time to hear it.

This mixed with the other speculative evidence points so HARD at the I.T. that it is a shocker to know that there are people that still dont see it.

It really proves nothing. Sorry.

People see Bigfoot tracks all the time. And yet we still don't have a Bigfoot.

 They see big foot tracks but NOT big foot...that is NOT like my evidence. You...CAN...hear shepard as the catalyst , so no its is nothing like seeing bigfoot tracks.

You can SEE Bigfoot in the Patterson-Gimlin film but scientists still don't believe it. It is considered "evidence" as well. It doesn't mean anything without a legitimate organism.

Occam's Razor and the scientific method suggest the obvious. Bioware intended the endings to be the way they are right now. They messed up and big time.

No...there is no proof in any of those videos because you can just say that it is a man in a suit. However...............................................You CAN hear shepard in the background of the catalyst voice.

What are you not understanding? Its not a maybe its a fact!

I can just say that the Catalyst took a form familiar to Shepard and projected it's voice with his.

It's not a maybe. It isn't there. What you have is an assumption.