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[IamBlue]

StElmo wrote...

no, only one action, but the ending could be full of different events based on your war asset choices.

So geth + quarians fighting side by side = less geth and quarian casualties.

ETC.

Oh ok. Yeah, that would work. There could actually be a lot more endings than we have now. And they would all make sense! :happy:

[OH-UP-THIS!]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It would require the game to be extended. Plus, it's not clear what would happen after Shep wakes up.

I watched a fan-made vid, a couple nights ago, and that was beautiful, fulfilling and the best part, was all loose ends neatly in place.

no IT wasn't included, it was editted like a PRO should have done in the first place.

[IamBlue]

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

IamBlue wrote...

XxDarkTimexX wrote...

i think what they should is with the destroy ending just make it to where that the citadel is a trap setup by the reapers if anyone found the plans to do the crucible and successded and the citsdel is a powerful reaper that is the first and make it kill shepard but make your lover has a child at the end then do the whole old man and child talk after the credits.

Mass effect 4 Anyone

I don't think Garrus can have babies...

he chould maybe if you are female but it would have to be turian

And how would that work?? 

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So you'd want to re-do everything we already did? You really want to face off against TIM again and go fire the Crucible, again, now that Shepard is still injured? But this time you want it to do (???).

Not necessarily, indoc theory has many iterations, my personal favorite is indoctrination just before the elevator of light.

Cuts out all the bad bits, keeps the good bits. Simple really.

Then what does the Crucible do?

What we have been trying to do for 3 games of course, kill the Reapers!

NO nonsensical green*BLARGH* ending
NO nonsensical blue ending

Just obliterate the reapers and go home. or the bar, whichever's closer.

[spirosz]

I was hoping they would add it for optional content, for those who want it and not force it upon people who don't like the theory. You know EA and their artsy suits, errr - Bioware's artistic integrity.

[XxDarkTimexX]

your female could give birth before the back to earth but i gues get female shepards blood and garrus's blood to conbine it in some other women to make a baby i guess.................... idk i'm just giving ideas but hopefully bioware can do something simarly but different

[OH-UP-THIS!]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It would require the game to be extended. Plus, it's not clear what would happen after Shep wakes up.

No one ever answers this question

I'll try to answer you, but I'm not on the friggen' payroll, so my interpretation may be a little off.

We finish the game.
 
how the frak do we know what would happen, after Shep wakes up?

We aren't the authors, writers or testers.

[IamBlue]

ohupthis wrote...


What we have been trying to do for 3 games of course, kill the Reapers!

NO nonsensical green*BLARGH* ending
NO nonsensical blue ending

Just obliterate the reapers and go home. or the bar, whichever's closer.

For some reason they think the green one is the best one. It has "art" all over it. 

[OH-UP-THIS!]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

delphonic wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It would require the game to be extended. Plus, it's not clear what would happen after Shep wakes up.

No one ever answers this question

Again, it's called Mass Effect 4

EC reveals Shepard wakes up from indoctrination attempt and that's the end of ME3, but the battle for Earth has only just begun. It wasn't possible for ME3 (assemble fleet to stop the reapers) and ME4 (war with the reapers) to be one game. 

Well, that would be cool.

Actually from a players' perspective, NOT in the slightest.

E/A and their accountants maybe.

The way i see it, if Bioware don't wiseup soon there's gonna be a lot of disgruntled EX-players of their IP.

Regardless of franchise, ME/DA.

[ashwind]

- Not everyone share the opinion that I.T is that great.

- Not everyone share the opinion that I.T is better than the current ending.

- Bioware can never answer the question: If I.T is so brilliant, please explain why bringing the lousiest fleet to earth (lowest EMS) = Auto success.

- Bioware dont want to create extra game play and give/sell it. Either way they die.

- Bioware dont want to get into trouble for selling incomplete products.

- "I" hold the opinion that I.T is infinitely WORSE than the current ending. I take space magic over IT any day.


[edit] So, No. It is not a free pass. Bioware better go think of ways to make the EC really nice.

Modifié par ashwind, 26 avril 2012 - 04:27 .

[RGFrog]

Indoctrination theory has two things wrong with it.

1. It doesn't fly. Shep was not indoctrinated. No proof has been provided that isn't full of holes.

2. BW didn't come up with it. By suggesting it, it's not something they can or would use. It's fan-fiction the moment you post it and a whole can of issues arises even if they think of using fan-fic.

[Shaoken]

Because the Indoc theory;

* Is only embraced by a subset of the people who don't like the ending
* Is admitting that they shipped a game without an ending
* Is most importantly not their idea, thus openning themseslves up to long lawsuits over who owns the rights to the idea
* Will just make people pissed at the IT fanbase.
* Compounds the problem; instead of three endings being identical except for the colour of them (to be fair also some minor differences such as level of destruction on Earth and around), we have only one ending.

Taking the IT theory would make more problems than it would solve.

[IamBlue]

Yeah people, we can only hope for a good ending ("Without hope we may as well be machines"), but let's not fool ourselves. In the end we will probably just get a "clarification" on something that could never make any sense.

[XxDarkTimexX]

delphonic wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It would require the game to be extended. Plus, it's not clear what would happen after Shep wakes up.

No one ever answers this question

Again, it's called Mass Effect 4

EC reveals Shepard wakes up from indoctrination attempt and that's the end of ME3, but the battle for Earth has only just begun. It wasn't possible for ME3 (assemble fleet to stop the reapers) and ME4 (war with the reapers) to be one game. 

somewhat simarly to my idea but unstead of separd its shepards son but the worst enemy is not tim but the reaper is the citadel and kills shepard but either way it helps the IT theory, people who don't want mass effect to end with a lame war ending dealing with the most powerful enemy to date, or people who want a new ending thats better than what we got 

[OH-UP-THIS!]

ashwind wrote...

- Not everyone share the opinion that I.T is that great.

Fine keep your inane ending.

- Not everyone share the opinion that I.T is better than the current ending.

Clearly you can come up with a better solution, so let's have it.

- Bioware can never answer the question: If I.T is so brilliant, please explain why bringing the lousiest fleet to earth (lowest EMS) = Auto success.
 
This would clearly depend on the amount of Galactic readiness, not spacebrat-magic, nor rocket-science.

- Bioware dont want to create extra game play and give/sell it. Either way they die.

If done correctly this could definitely work, don't be such a fatalist.

- Bioware dont want to get into trouble for selling incomplete products.

If SPUN properly, this could work to their advantage.

- "I" hold the opinion that I.T is infinitely WORSE than the current ending. I take space magic over IT any day.

opinions are wondrous are they not? you can keep your whatever ending.

[edit] So, No. It is not a free pass. Bioware better go think of ways to make the EC really nice.

with cotton candy and space-bunnies? or was that cotton bunnies and space-candy?

All I know is there'd better be some sort of fix happening, because the way it is now, just doesn't wash.

[StElmo]

ohupthis wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It would require the game to be extended. Plus, it's not clear what would happen after Shep wakes up.

I watched a fan-made vid, a couple nights ago, and that was beautiful, fulfilling and the best part, was all loose ends neatly in place.

no IT wasn't included, it was editted like a PRO should have done in the first place.

This one?

[Allen Spellwaver]

When did they deny Indoc Theory?

[StElmo]

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

When did they deny Indoc Theory?

Gamble said that he doesn't think Destroy is the best ending

Weeks tried to explain that the relays had been disabled, not destroyed (irrelevant if it is all a dream)

and other things said here and there suggest Indoc theory is not true.

[XxDarkTimexX]

StElmo wrote...

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

When did they deny Indoc Theory?

Gamble said that he doesn't think Destroy is the best ending

Weeks tried to explain that the relays had been disabled, not destroyed (irrelevant if it is all a dream)

and other things said here and there suggest Indoc theory is not true.

its most likey that bioware is in denial about the IT theory because if they say its real well then a lot of fans will not be happy or be happy cause would you say to a child that your giving the best birthday ever (and yes i no some people would tell the truth)

[Zolt51]

Why should they make indoc theory canon? All they have to do is not deny it and IT fans will be happy.

If they make IT canon, I will come to your house and puke on you.

[NoSpin]

StElmo wrote...

Allen Spellwaver wrote...

When did they deny Indoc Theory?

Gamble said that he doesn't think Destroy is the best ending

Weeks tried to explain that the relays had been disabled, not destroyed (irrelevant if it is all a dream)

and other things said here and there suggest Indoc theory is not true.

When you throw your kid a surprise party what do you do? Do you take him with you to get the balloons, cake and presents and then expect him to be surprised when everyone jumps out? Or do you lie, tell him you are going to the bank when you are getting the cake. Tell him that instead of having a party we will be going to visit slightly racist grandma. If Bioware's point was to unveil a surprise ME4 announcement, they can't come out and basically say there is more to the story now can they? I'm not saying that is what they are doing, but until the GAME says otherwise, don't listen to anyone.

Seriously guys, they will NEVER say anything story related over twitter regarding the endings. The guy gave his OPINION that he thought Synthesis was a better ending. The GAME meanwhile, gives no such indication. So wait for the EC!

[Drogonion]

Bottom line: indoctrination theory was never the artistic vision held by Bioware. Indoctrination theory is held by fans that are stupefied by Bioware's actual artistic vision, and choose to believe the opposite (using indoctrination theory to help them sustain this (mistaken) belief).

I love the indoctrination theory and think it better fits the story arc of the trilogy thematically and narratively. Indoctrination theory provides a way out of the depressing options Bioware envisioned.

If the EA suits had any say in the matter, my guess is that they would choose the indoc theory or any other more positive ending for the great trilogy. However, the creative team at Bioware holds a much darker vision for the ME universe, and my guess is that the EA suits have little say in the matter.

Modifié par Drogonion, 26 avril 2012 - 03:26 .

[Walsh1980]

Because the only thing worse than the endings we got is if it was all a dream. An intentional dream ending is wrong on many levels, business-wise and thematically.

http://en.wikipedia....i/St._Elsewhere

Modifié par Walsh1980, 26 avril 2012 - 03:32 .

[liggy002]

IamBlue wrote...

StElmo wrote...

IamBlue wrote...

Because then they would have sold us a game without an end, instead of one with a bad ending...

True but it is also a genius bit of writing and the DLC is free, so really no harm is done.

I agree. I really like the IT idea, but some people would complain that they don't have internet access so they can't download the DLC.

You could argue the same for the Extended Cut DLC