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[Zkyire]

The Arishok.

I'm fighting the guy and the whole time I'm thinking "He's right. This city is a cesspool" he made me realise that Hawke's continued struggles were to allow people the 'freedom' to live in said dangerous cesspool. The Qun might not be the best alternative, but what we were protecting wasn't worth protecting.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Which characters did you particularly like/dislike

I like Sebastian Vael, he's extremely undeveloped as a character and i think it's made it easy for me to see his potential more than anything, which is what i like about him.

I don't particularly "dislike" everyone else. Just, every other character in either game i fnd kind of... Dull.

did any manage to change your opinions?

Nope. Though the Arishok did make me more "understanding" of why the Qunari are so stead-fast in their social structure. He didn't change my opinion.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 28 avril 2012 - 12:16 .

[Firky]

berelinde wrote...

When a person says something like that, they are doing it to pull the teeth of those who are thinking it. When somebody says something like that, the friendly (or patronizing) response is to disagree. The worst a person could politely do is remain silent. Sure, the PC could agree with her there, but it would be kinda rude.

Do you think that's her motivation?

This conversation is totally why I love Merrill. And the fact that it would spark, like, social stress in the player in responding to her.

[Dave of Canada]

Wynne and Finn for reinforcing my opinion positively.
Anders for reinforcing it negatively.

[Nashiktal]

The arishok certainly made me respect the differences and interactions between two very alien cultures.

[astreqwerty]

Izzy because she was such a non cliched character...i just adore her. Imho shes on par with the likes of MOrrigan,Alistair and Sten.. And of course Merill.. Her decision on preserving the mirror was so morally ambigious that it increased my sympathy for her.. The rest of the cast was just dump with the exeption of Aveline but her VA did a horrible job imo

[Karlone123]

JustifiablyDefenestrated wrote...

I found that, out of all the DA characters,  Fenris made me reflect on my own philosophies more than any others.  At first I thought he was a paranoid hyporcrite--how could anyone be so vehemently oppose slavery and yet condemn mages to the circle?

But then I realized that he really does bring up a valid point. Mages have more power than other people.  Not just ordinary power, such as wealth, prestige, or strength; but the power to control other people. This, more than anything, violates a person's most fundamental right; the right to choose how to act.

And because he was a slave, Fenris is incredibly attune to this. He struggles throughout the game to create an identity independant of his history in Tevinter.

So, that's how I learned to stop worrying and embrace the conflict.

Thoughts? Which characters did you particularly like/dislike and did any manage to change your opinions?

Mages are gateways for demons, and plus nearly all mages you help turn on you later on (Grace and Orsino)

I always came to agree with the Qunari, duty is important, derelict Gods will not save you but the Qun is not the only way. They are very organised and probably don't gave as much a problem with curruption and demons going loose.

Modifié par Karlone123, 30 avril 2012 - 12:13 .

[schalafi]

I was wishing that the dialogue wheel had a few more selections for my Hawke. I would have loved to tell Carver to "shut up until you grow up." He was the worst example of a spoiled brat younger brother, I've ever seen.

Fenrus, for the constant ranting about mages and slavery. By act 2 I'd stopped feeling sorry for him and wanted a way to tell him "For Maker''s sake, just stop your whining."

I'd love to have been able to tell Anders, 'We all understand you hate templars, but couldn't you talk about something, anything else for a change?"

[TEWR]

Merrill is awkward. She is awkward among her clan,

No she's not. She tells Ilen that the clan needs to shove their fear of the old ways up their own collective ass, she tells Paivel that she'll leave soon enough when he wonders why she's back, and she's gets pissed off at Marethari after being told what the latter did in her Act II quest.

She is far from being awkward around her clan. She's just as confident around them in DAII as she was in DAO.

As for her intelligence... well... Flemeth says that Merrill is intelligent. You can't really argue with Flemeth. At most, you can argue that Bioware pushed the boundaries of Merrill's persona and didn't show enough of Merrill's intelligence in-game for people to really feel that she was that way.

I don't feel completely that way, but other people can certainly feel that way. I do think that Bioware began to push the limits, but I still don't think they went overboard just yet.

I was actually hoping to see some more philosophical Merrill with maybe some poetic Merrill and historical Merrill alongside the cute Merrill we all know and love -- or hate, as the case may be for certain people.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 30 avril 2012 - 12:42 .

[goofyomnivore]

Thoughts? Which characters did you particularly like/dislike and did any manage to change your opinions?

I feel like I'm the only one, but I really liked Carver as a character. He was a pain in the ass, but I felt like he really grew up over the course of the game (Warden path). I disliked quite a few characters from a writing perspective, but if you mean "love to hate dislike" I can't really think of one. Meredith maybe if the idol wasn't what made her insane.

None of the characters really changed my opinions on Thedas. The Arishok kind of reinforced how stupid the Qun is to me, and Elthina did the same for the Chantry.

[Vincent Laww]

When I originally encountered DAO, Leliana's vivid assertions about the Maker, and his will. At first I believed she was some sort of delirious, religious, individual. As the story progresses, you feel there is some traces of the metaphysical being's touch upon the world. I'm an agnostic, so I'm not really predisposed to believing, or disbelieving in the realm of metaphysical beings. However, she strangely entertained the very notion of monotheistic being, which was quite intriguing.
Morrigan had traces of conflicting emotions making up the basis of her personality. She appeared self-serving, and she would always scold you for taking the moralistic high road, In the end you found out she had a duplicitous nature after all, but she also developed as character. Possibly forming genuine emotions for your Warden, depending on the nature of your relationship with her in the context of the game. In terms of DA2. My initials thoughts of Fenris, is that he was plainly put, a murderer. The basis for his governing philosophy was the harsh life style he was subjected to. His master converted him into a living weapon, and this gave him the means to escape; and survive on his own. I find myself both sympathising with him, and also sometimes finding him to be irrationally, unstable. With the whole Templar institution verse Magic Users, I tend to find myself alternating between the factions, depending on the circumstances of said situation. For a majority of the time, I side with the magic users. I found Anders to be an extremist, and he only fueled the fires of hatred, based on his experience with certain Templars. They hardly represent the totality of the order.

[goofyomnivore]

If I account for DA:O. I'd say Loghain changed my opinion on a few things. I really liked Morrigan and Anora as characters. Sten had some interesting thoughts and analogies about magic that I had not considered as well.

Arl Eamon and Isolde were idiots. Teagan should of been Arl from the get-go.

[Dutchess]

I'd say Fenris gave me reason to reconsider my pro-mage attitude. I don't mean he converted me to "grrr, all mages must rot", but I saw the value of his more sensible argument that pretty much every mage has something that can make them turn to blood magic and demons. Not all for power and money, but some for survival, or to save a loved one. And I think that's simply true. Look at Connor in DAO, for instance. He turned to a desire demon to save his father. Sure, he was a child, but I daresay many adults would do the same.

[TEWR]

strive wrote...

Arl Eamon and Isolde were idiots

Wait, how is Eamon an idiot? Isolde certainly is one, but Eamon?

[goofyomnivore]

Wait, how is Eamon an idiot? Isolde certainly is one, but Eamon?

He thinks Alistair is head and shoulders a better ruler than Anora based off Alistair's lineage. The same lineage that he saw fit years ago to throw into the stables, allow Isolde to give him hell and eventually send him off to the Chantry to put the nail in the coffin of Alistair ever being more than a royal mistake.

Not to mention his collaborating with Cailan to throw away Anora like a piece of garbage. Even though it is quite obvious down to commoners that Anora is the better half of ruler ship. Then he has the gall to lecture Cailan about Anora possibly being barren when Cailan is sleeping around risking whole nother bastard situation, which he had to clean up last time.

Basically his narrow minded divine right mentality really rubs me the wrong way, and it is hard to convince me he is doing 'the best for Fereldon'.

Modifié par strive, 30 avril 2012 - 09:39 .