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[Peranor]

 

This whole "we kill you to protect you from synthetics bla bla" is just reaper BS. Don' trust their lies!

They reap for one reason only. To prevent organics from growing strong enough to oppose them. Thats it. 
Do the right thing and shoot the pipe :happy:

[HinduCowGirl]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...
I think most have been hoping for added endings and clarification of the sucky one that already exist... I my self is one of them who hopes for added ending, atleast a GOOD ending, one that does not end with the demise of the galaxy.

If I wanted the depressing ending, I would just look out the window. Bah to you BioFAIL

They aren't changing the endings, so they'll be labeled "Control" "Destroy" and "Synthesis" but their outcomes can be changed and added too. 

I'd like to see "Control" split into two:   1- A way to just kick the Reapers out (even if it just resets the cycle) but have Shepard lives and 2- Shepard joins the Reapers for permanent control.  

I'd like to see "Destroy" split up too, with high enough EMS you can choose to kill the Reapers and yourself (Thus saving the Geth & EDI) or sacrifice the Geth & EDI to save yourself. 

I still think it's horrible to have to chose to eradicate the Geth. Why not just change the Reaper code. We were able to do it for the Geth and set them free, so why not just hack Harbingers ass back to into dark space and disable them for good?

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

Thank you <3
And then some blue babies

[Taboo]

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.

[devSin]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I don't know if it eventually will. Neither do the Reapers/Catalyst. They just take it upon themselves to play god and force their "solution" on other organic species. That is immoral and unethical in so many ways it's not even funny. They never give organic life the chance to find out. It's like their truth or none at all. That is absolutely wrong.

Exactly. They're already wrong.

Organic life exists in the galaxy. Therefore, organic life has never been wiped out. Therefore, they're acting on an assumption.

You don't need to "prove them wrong". They already are wrong.

Modifié par devSin, 26 avril 2012 - 10:56 .

[Kunari801]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

[HinduCowGirl]

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

Modifié par HinduCowGirl, 26 avril 2012 - 11:00 .

[Kunari801]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

I lost Miranda, Mordin and Legion on the way and yes all those deaths hurt.  I actually teared up each time!   Especially at Mordin's final speech, personalizing his sacrifice for his nephew.   However, I never assumed Shepard would survive the war.  

My moment of happiness in ME3: The night with my LI was the most happy my Shepard had been, he finally got the LI he wanted since ME1.  

Modifié par Kunari801, 26 avril 2012 - 11:07 .

[Taboo]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

Given my knowledge of movie marketing, one of the safest ways to make a product better is to make it happier.

It's what be in the business call the "**** logic" "I'm happy" rule. People shut up. 

[MisterJB]

Seryl wrote...
Ignoring the problems with "Right or wrong is relative", you're using moral relativism to state that nobody can make a judgement on anything, while at the same time judging that those in the past would
have comitted a hate crime?

Hardly, I was agreeing with you. Partially.
What is wrong to one person may not be wrong to another and we judge people and situations based on the values that we were taught. It's the sad truth.
I consider that making a decision for other people is morally sound as long as the decision is for their good and I don't believe we should thake their opinion into consideration. You might disagree and judge this as wrong which I will acept.

Except that the brat offering him that possibility has no reason to tell the truth. The brat's very existence proves that war probably won't happen. Shepard's own actions throughout the game also proves the certainty of that war suspect.

The StarChild spoke the truth when it said Reapers preserve organic civilizations, we've seen it happen. Its words make sense(synthetics will, eventually, destroy organics) and the alternative is to believe it created a solution for a problem that doesn't exist which is nonsensical. Clearly, it doesn't want to wipe out organics or the Reapers could easily transform the galaxy into a wasteland and it is also the oldest form of counsciousness is the galaxy so, it could have seen synthetics destroy organic civilizations.
 Therefore, I'm willing to believe in what it says.

So, essentially Shepard is offered the POSSIBILITY of avoiding a war that may never happen anyway in exchange for overwriting the free will and choice of every living creature in the galaxy? This seems like a fair exchange?

On one hand, you ovewrite the free will of every creature in the galaxy just once but you give them a much stronger possiblity of preventing a war.
On the other hand, you uphold free will but also risk the complete extinction of organic life at the hands of synthetics.

I am not willing to take that risk and I also see ways of not just saving, but improving the galaxy through Synthesis.

Javik makes a comment in his "Throw the machine out of the airlock" speech that there was a race in his cycle that implanted themselves
with machinery. The machinery eventually took over the bodies of those
using it and made them a slave race. If that's not an in game rejection
of Synthesis, I don't know what is.

1-Shepard is partially synthetic and he seems to be doing fine.
2-Unlike true Synthesis, that was organics trying to use synthetics for their own ends, not that different from what happened between the geth and quarians. Synthesis would be a symbiotic relationship, they would become as much a part of us as our DNA.

Which is precisely why decisions of the magnitude that the Synthesis ending gives us should never be made by anybody. What is correct today may not be correct tomorrow and the person making the choice has no way to tell.

The world of tomorrow is influenced by the world of today. If we try to create a good society today, tomorrow's society will perceive what we consider to be good as...well...good too.
We can say that we are wrong and what we consider to be good might not be but we can only try to improve based on the values we have today.

[Iakus]

MisterJB wrote...

So, essentially Shepard is offered the POSSIBILITY of avoiding a war that may never happen anyway in exchange for overwriting the free will and choice of every living creature in the galaxy? This seems like a fair exchange?

On one hand, you ovewrite the free will of every creature in the galaxy just once but you give them a much stronger possiblity of preventing a war.
On the other hand, you uphold free will but also risk the complete extinction of organic life at the hands of synthetics.

I am not willing to take that risk and I also see ways of not just saving, but improving the galaxy through Synthesis.

"Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that."

Modifié par iakus, 26 avril 2012 - 11:30 .

[MisterJB]

devSin wrote...
 Exactly. They're already wrong.

Organic life exists in the galaxy. Therefore, organic life has never been wiped out. Therefore, they're acting on an assumption.

You don't need to "prove them wrong". They already are wrong.

Or those who created the Catalyst saw one organic race create synthetics. Those synthetics destroyed all traces of organic life in their homeworld. Then they moved to another organic civilization and destroyed it too. And another. And another.

When do you think it's time to stop this synthetic race? When there is only one world left?
Maybe the Catalyst was the last effort of the last organic race which witnessed its worlds consumed by synthetics one after another.

[Taboo]

Kunari801 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

I lost Miranda, Mordin and Legion on the way and yes all those deaths hurt.  I actually teared up each time!   Especially at Mordin's final speech, personalizing his sacrifice for his nephew.   However, I never assumed Shepard would survive the war.  

My moment of happiness in ME3: The night with my LI was the most happy my Shepard had been, he finally got the LI he wanted since ME1.  

Are you LGBT? If not I apologize for making an assumption. Anyway

I was so happy to see that Bioware was including choices for LGBT people. They get to see these two wonderful characters, Steve and Samantha and don't really get to do much after the end. As for Kaiden he never seems to survive in my playthroughs.

You don't have to be gay to appreciate gay characters.

[IanPolaris]

Shepard is the ONLY example of a synethic-organic fusion that isn't:

1. Homicidally Evil
2. Insane
3. Both

In fact he is suspiciously unique in that way....

-Polaris

[HinduCowGirl]

Taboo-XX wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

Given my knowledge of movie marketing, one of the safest ways to make a product better is to make it happier.

It's what be in the business call the "**** logic" "I'm happy" rule. People shut up. 

Oh oh oh! I know of a producer who recently utterly FAILED in that department

[HinduCowGirl]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."  

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

I lost Miranda, Mordin and Legion on the way and yes all those deaths hurt.  I actually teared up each time!   Especially at Mordin's final speech, personalizing his sacrifice for his nephew.   However, I never assumed Shepard would survive the war.  

My moment of happiness in ME3: The night with my LI was the most happy my Shepard had been, he finally got the LI he wanted since ME1.  

Are you LGBT? If not I apologize for making an assumption. Anyway

I was so happy to see that Bioware was including choices for LGBT people. They get to see these two wonderful characters, Steve and Samantha and don't really get to do much after the end. As for Kaiden he never seems to survive in my playthroughs.

You don't have to be gay to appreciate gay characters.

LGBT here, and I want them blue babies 

[Taboo]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Kunari801 wrote...

If they did as I suggested you wouldn't *have* to eradicate the Geth.  My Shepard would gladly give his life to kill the Reapers so those he cared about --his friends and loved ones-- can live.   "Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams."

Shepard already died once. Killing him again lessens the impact. He sacrifices himself in two endings. There doesn't need to be three. With a High enough EMS only the Reapers are destroyed. There are already billions and billions and BILLIONS of dead people. That's already mature enough.

I have no objections if I could Destroy the Reapers and save the Relays, Geth, EDI, and retire with my LI.

That would solve.......all my problems. ONLY because I'm such a softie.  

 I'd love kill the Reapers and ride off into the sunset next to Kaidan and adopt a bunch of blue babies from Liara.  
I'm a softie too, but I'm trying to keep my hopes for the EC grounded so it doesn't disapoint me.  

Was there ANY moments of happiness in ME3 that overran all the heart shattering deaths of your friends? Well, of course Ranoch was one of them... but ME3 was more of a train of endless heart pain and tears flooding - you would expect that it would end good, but it didn't... tripple BAH!

Given my knowledge of movie marketing, one of the safest ways to make a product better is to make it happier.

It's what be in the business call the "**** logic" "I'm happy" rule. People shut up. 

Oh oh oh! I know of a producer who recently utterly FAILED in that department

A smart producer gauges what the audience wants if he plans on selling his art to a mass audience. A large majority of people don't like gloom and doom.

The people who want a more happy ending are the ones who make me come back here and make these topics.

I do this so you can have babies.

[HinduCowGirl]

Taboo-XX wrote...

A smart producer gauges what the audience wants if he plans on selling his art to a mass audience. A large majority of people don't like gloom and doom.

The people who want a more happy ending are the ones who make me come back here and make these topics.

I do this so you can have babies.

They should be glad this isn't the MOVIE we're talking about. They'll be able to rectify the game, but the movie would have been a disaster if it was built upon the same script with the insertion of star-brat at the very end. I wonder what debates that would have started in Cannes.

And that is one of the reasons I follow all of your posts.

Modifié par HinduCowGirl, 26 avril 2012 - 11:21 .

[Taboo]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

A smart producer gauges what the audience wants if he plans on selling his art to a mass audience. A large majority of people don't like gloom and doom.

The people who want a more happy ending are the ones who make me come back here and make these topics.

I do this so you can have babies.

They should be glad this isn't the MOVIE we're talking about. They'll be able to rectify the game, but the movie would have been a disaster if it was built upon the same script with the insertion of star-brat at the very end. I wonder what debates that would have started in Cannes.

And that is one of the reasons I follow all of your posts.

I was around for the Lars von Trier Antichrist debacle. Don't google for that trailer at work. Bioware thinks THEY are in a hot mess.

That year a really great film was released with a GREAT amount of speculation. The White Ribbon. That film won the Palm'Dor (the highest honor) at Cannes and I was more than pleased to see it win. Not really a plesent film but it leaves you with the right amount of questions.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 26 avril 2012 - 11:25 .

[Aquilas]

"but the idea is there is no concept of machine or organic anymore. There is only life."

We're supposed to consider whether or not EDI is truly alive before Synthesis? Because she's not organic? She's synthetic? Seriously?

Through several dialogues Shepard guides EDI towards exercising free will, including determining her reason for being and for following a self-determined moral compass.

Before heading off to the space magic geyser, Shepard speaks to EDI during the London war room scene. EDI says Shepard is the only one who made her realize she's truly alive. She displays an emotion for the first time: she smiles ever so slightly. Who put these words in EDI's mouth? Who put that smile on EDI's face? The BioWare writers.

Then Shepard meets Star-jar. Star-jar hands Shepard a crap sandwich and says Shepard can have it with ketchup, lettuce, or bleu cheese but no matter what, Shepard has to eat the crap sandwich. If Shepard chooses ketchup, EDI is destroyed. If Shepard chooses lettuce, EDI loses the identity she's spent the entire game defining--with Shepard's guidance.

True, Shepard could be stuck with the sandwich. Star-jar is either a god or a megapowerful, flawed AI that can't be trusted, so it's strong enough to create a box Shepard can't escape.  Except for one thing: the writers deny Shepard the one choice that would shove the crap sandwich right back into Star-jar's face--the choice to do nothing at all. For almost all of my Shepards, Renegade and Paragon alike, that would be completely in character. As Emiliano Zapata said, "It is better to die upon your feet than to live upon your knees!" Shepard says as much to Saren on Virmire.

But no matter what, Shepard has to eat the crap sandwich. He has to destroy EDI; it doesn't matter whether or not he chooses ketchup or lettuce--the result is the same. And that's crap.

Modifié par Aquilas, 26 avril 2012 - 11:28 .

[HinduCowGirl]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was around for the Lars von Trier Antichrist debacle. Don't google for that trailer at work. Bioware thinks THEY are in a hot mess.

That year a really great film was released with a GREAT amount of speculation. The White Ribbon. That film won the Palm'Dor (the highest honor) at Cannes and I was more than pleased to see it win. Not really a plesent film but it leaves you with the right amount of questions.

I bet, he was quite debated here in Norway during the time too. Looking at the movies he has produced, they all seem kind of "on the edge". Klovn is just madness

[palker]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

In Deus Ex the world was a dystopia and under the control of the Illuminati. The world was already screwed, so forming an AI god with Helios was a legitimate (even preferred) option.

The important differences between Deus Ex's transhumanist ending and ME3 are:

- In the Helios ending, it's only Denton, the player, that is merging. The choice is yours to make.
- It's also important that Helios is working against the antagonist with you; he is not the antagonist himself.
- The alternatives to merging are a to cause a worldwide technological apocalypse, or to allow the Illuminati to continue to manipulate the world for their own ends, even if it means genocide.

ME3's Synthesis ending is as if you decided to merge Bob Page with Helios to form a new psychotic AI, spread it throughout the world's population via the Gray Death, then decided to blow up the world's communications hub AS WELL.

It's just so wrong, I can't even think about it.

The ME3 synthesis is more close Deus Ex 2 Denton ending since every single living being is getting "augumented" and so there will never ever be conflict between anybody because now they are all equal.

[Skull Bearer]

Taboo-XX wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

A smart producer gauges what the audience wants if he plans on selling his art to a mass audience. A large majority of people don't like gloom and doom.

The people who want a more happy ending are the ones who make me come back here and make these topics.

I do this so you can have babies.

They should be glad this isn't the MOVIE we're talking about. They'll be able to rectify the game, but the movie would have been a disaster if it was built upon the same script with the insertion of star-brat at the very end. I wonder what debates that would have started in Cannes.

And that is one of the reasons I follow all of your posts.

I was around for the Lars von Trier Antichrist debacle. Don't google for that trailer at work. Bioware thinks THEY are in a hot mess.

That year a really great film was released with a GREAT amount of speculation. The White Ribbon. That film won the Palm'Dor (the highest honor) at Cannes and I was more than pleased to see it win. Not really a plesent film but it leaves you with the right amount of questions.

I always found that the perfect example of ambiguous endings and speculation done right is the Russian film Stalker. It's driving me nuts that some people have been comparing it's ending to that of ME3. Just... no.

[Taboo]

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was around for the Lars von Trier Antichrist debacle. Don't google for that trailer at work. Bioware thinks THEY are in a hot mess.

That year a really great film was released with a GREAT amount of speculation. The White Ribbon. That film won the Palm'Dor (the highest honor) at Cannes and I was more than pleased to see it win. Not really a plesent film but it leaves you with the right amount of questions.

I bet, he was quite debated here in Norway during the time too. Looking at the movies he has produced, they all seem kind of "on the edge". Klovn is just madness

Yeah, Lars is a strange guy to be around. Very kind though.....

Anway. I'll keep making threads for as long as people are willing to read them.

[Taboo]

Skull Bearer wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

HinduCowGirl wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

A smart producer gauges what the audience wants if he plans on selling his art to a mass audience. A large majority of people don't like gloom and doom.

The people who want a more happy ending are the ones who make me come back here and make these topics.

I do this so you can have babies.

They should be glad this isn't the MOVIE we're talking about. They'll be able to rectify the game, but the movie would have been a disaster if it was built upon the same script with the insertion of star-brat at the very end. I wonder what debates that would have started in Cannes.

And that is one of the reasons I follow all of your posts.

I was around for the Lars von Trier Antichrist debacle. Don't google for that trailer at work. Bioware thinks THEY are in a hot mess.

That year a really great film was released with a GREAT amount of speculation. The White Ribbon. That film won the Palm'Dor (the highest honor) at Cannes and I was more than pleased to see it win. Not really a plesent film but it leaves you with the right amount of questions.

I always found that the perfect example of ambiguous endings and speculation done right is the Russian film Stalker. It's driving me nuts that some people have been comparing it's ending to that of ME3. Just... no.

The ending feels like a parody to Stalker. I don't know if Hudson was channeling Tarkovsky but if he was he failed. Miserably. Don't ever copy Tarkovsky guys. It can't be done.