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[Sebby]

Tleining wrote...

Opsrbest wrote...

Heavy Weapons and the Cain killing a Reaper. The AA cannon isn't a Reaper.

For quick example.

Considering that we have no idea what the Hades Cannon alone looks like and we are destroying a Reaper-like-thing, that's open to interpretation.
I for one think that that IS a Reaper.

It has the same red electric currents as the other Reapers too.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Let me put it this way. When a developer says "use your imagination to fill in the blanks" it means there are a lot of holes in the plot, and a lot of stuff they didn't think needed to be put in because they just figured that most people would just be interested in shooting stuff until they got to the end anyway.

[Subguy614]

Regarding the Conduit on Ilos: Anderson says the "hologram" wasn't working. Meaning Vigil.

Also, smudboy said if it doesn't have power, then bring duracells.Meaning power sources and engineers to configure and connect.

About the relay not being in the same place: The relays have been in use for millions of years. The galaxy rotates and all the objects in it change position. The relays must have a QEC type device that connects and aligns the sender relay with its paired receiver relay or they would be defuct by now. The codex even says it performs an alignment prior to sending.

[TMA LIVE]

Subguy614 wrote...

About the relay not being in the same place: The relays have been in use for millions of years. The galaxy rotates and all the objects in it change position. The relays must have a QEC type device that connects and aligns the sender relay with its paired receiver relay or they would be defuct by now. The codex even says it performs an alignment prior to sending.

Well every 50, 000 years, the Reapers come and do their thing. Maybe they fix the Relays, so they're re-aligned? Maybe that's how they work?

I'm just saying, considering only a few relays can actually take you to more then one spot, locations probably play a part. Like being completely out of range of the sender position.

[jla0644]

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

[humes spork]

jla0644 wrote...

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

Apparently you've never met a trekkie. That's tame compared to some of those guys.

Modifié par humes spork, 27 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[frozngecko]

jla0644 wrote...

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

He's actually a fan. He WANTS this game to be as awesome as the first game (which he even took the time to critique). IMO, I think he loves the trilogy and wished it was better...because anyone who hates the series would spend little to no time to care about playing the game and making a critique vid of it.

I mean, why do you think the "Better Ending" people care so much about the ending? It's because they love it. I'm just saying.

[OriginalNameGuy]

There are a few good points beneath all the nitpicking. Didn't expect him to even play this after ME2, but I guess he couldn't resist.

[ShepnTali]

jla0644 wrote...

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

Whether all, some, or none of his points are valid, I think it's safe to say he gives it a deeper look than the typical IGN reviewer.

[sammysoso]

jla0644 wrote...

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

You don't put that much effort into something you don't like. Obviously he has passion for Mass Effect, or he wouldn't be making these videos

[jla0644]

frozngecko wrote...

jla0644 wrote...

Why did this guy even bother to play ME3? He obviously despised ME2. Did he really expect to like it? Or did he just need another opportunity to feel like he's smarter than everyone else on earth by tearing apart every tiny thing he feels doesn't make sense?

How does he enjoy anything, from movies, to books, to videogames, when the slightest inconsistency, or anything that requires even a hint of suspension of disbelief is automatically a piece of crap?

He's actually a fan. He WANTS this game to be as awesome as the first game (which he even took the time to critique). IMO, I think he loves the trilogy and wished it was better...because anyone who hates the series would spend little to no time to care about playing the game and making a critique vid of it.

I mean, why do you think the "Better Ending" people care so much about the ending? It's because they love it. I'm just saying.

You can't compare him to those of us who want a better ending. We love all 3 games, not just the first one, we just hate the ending.

A fan wants to enjoy the game, they don't spend every spare minute they have looking for reasons NOT to like the game. When you're a fan, you're able to overlook some things you may not like or may not make complete sense. He is unable to do this.

IMO, he has an inferiority complex, and he thinks his critique makes him look smarter than everyone. An immensely popular game, rave reviews, and only he can see what garbage it truly is. That is why he would spend so much time on it, not necessarily because he loves it.

[Bill Casey]

Wow, I really don't agree with most of these points...


Just to pick a couple of things out, he complains that Diana Allers gives you less war assets than Khalisa Bin Sinan Al Jilani even though she interviews Shepard. But those interviews give you War Assets. So Allers ends up giving you twice as many War Assets as Khalisa...

And he's complaining about the Illusive man for being an insane megalomaniac who thinks he can Control the Reapers. Javik essentially says it's a Reaper tactic. There were indoctrinated Protheans who thought they could control the reapers...

And the Crucible isn't Deus Ex Machina; it's a Lost Superweapon...


I'm not going to go through every line, but yeesh...
Analysis fail...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 27 avril 2012 - 06:24 .

[Dendio1]

OriginalNameGuy wrote...

There are a few good points beneath all the nitpicking. Didn't expect him to even play this after ME2, but I guess he couldn't resist.

Me3 has to be a delicacy to people who like to break down plot bound flaws and analyze weaknesses. It was so appetizing that he interrupted his Deus EX HR breakdown to get in on the ME3 brouhaha

Modifié par Dendio1, 27 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[Fixers0]

First a general Question?

Have you actually watched His Videos?

jla0644 wrote...
You can't compare him to those of us who want a better ending. We love all 3 games, not just the first one, we just hate the ending.

You don't need to love the game if you want a better ending, Mass Effect 3 is as bad as is, the High amount of Auto-dialogue/lack of options, fetch citadel collection quest rather then actual exploration/side quest and no real consquence to ones action in because they didn't want to "lock players out of content" combined with the fact that everything that happend previous is marginalized (what was the point of Mass Effect 2 again?) are te most prominent ones.

One thing that some fans can't seem to get, most of which were previously Bioware's most devoted fanboys in situation where the were being criticized,
is the fact that they while they do recognize that the endings were bad, is that they soley believe this was cause in the last 10-15 minutes were as if one actually took his time to analyse what happend he/she will quickly come to the conclusion that almost all of the problems with the endings extend further then just that one scene and go deeper in the roots of the story, this is why most of those people when it comes to fixing aren't able to come further then cut out the starchild and add some other random stuff, because the rest was so great.

jla0644 wrote...
A fan wants to enjoy the game, they don't spend every spare minute they have looking for reasons NOT to like the game. When you're a fan, you're able to overlook some things you may not like or may not make complete sense. He is unable to do this.

So, you claim to know Smudboy's thought process,and if you didn't notice he's just analysing the plot, and if that is the goal then it's not to odd that you write down any question/retcon/inconsistancy/plothole down no matter the size, that's the point of analysing in detail, really you're just missing the entire point of this video series here.

jla0644 wrote...
IMO, he has an inferiority complex, and he thinks his critique makes him look smarter than everyone. An immensely popular game, rave reviews, and only he can see what garbage it truly is. That is why he would spend so much time on it, not necessarily because he loves it.

Again, you clame to know something which you hold no evidence of, just because something is popular doesn't make good, just because some so-called proffesional reviewers gave it high marks doesn't make it represenative for your experiance.

Modifié par Fixers0, 27 avril 2012 - 06:29 .

[Fixers0]

Bill Casey wrote...
And the Crucible isn't Deus Ex Machina; it's a Lost Superweapon...

Actually it's more of Macguffin ,and a pretty bad one i must say, of course it does end up serving the role of a Deus Ex Machina  device.

[spirosz]

This guy has some dedication and some legitimate points, but sad to say - I still find him idiotic. He reminds me of people who go into an argument thinking they'll always win and belittle people who have different opinions.

[Dendio1]

spiros9110 wrote...

This guy has some dedication and some legitimate points, but sad to say - I still find him idiotic. He reminds me of people who go into an argument thinking they'll always win and belittle people who have different opinions.

Entertaining watch nonetheless. If theres one good thing to come out of the fiasco its the wonderful fan videos.

Everything from comedy,  to music, to analysis.

Modifié par Dendio1, 27 avril 2012 - 06:43 .

[incinerator950]

Seboist wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Funny how those that got me temp banned have done a 180 when I turned out right.

That's what happens when overgrown man-children stop recieving a metaphorical hand job from the game and have to deal with the bad writing and game design that others like myself have been pointing out for a long time.

Sometimes its better to let people be blissful in their ignorance until the rock finally smashes into their glass house.

Edit:  I will not bother to watch the videos.  The internet here is bad and I will probably stop without finishing the first video.

Modifié par incinerator950, 27 avril 2012 - 06:45 .

[sammysoso]

Bill Casey wrote...



And the Crucible isn't Deus Ex Machina; it's a Lost Superweapon...

Nope, it's just a MacGuffin, so just as bad.

[Tleining]

Opsrbest wrote...

Then you miss the point of what your shooting at. Yes, it's a giant gun strapped onto the back of a Reaper. Or as I think of them half-Reapers.

But you aren't shooting the Reaper. You are shooting the cannon. (5:21 to see where the Cain actually shoots the Hades Cannon.)

We kill half a Reaper at best to argue the semantics of well we don't know what it looks like. (even though I provide a picture that shows you exactly what it looks like.)

We're shooting at the Reaper with a Hades Cannon strapped onto it's back. Yes, we have to shoot at a vulnerable Point. But the Resulting Explosion obviously is enough to bring the Reaper down.

And again: It's possible that that wasn't a complete Reaper or was weakened or whatever. But in that case the Game needs to tell us about it. Which was Smudboy's whole Point. The Game is just going on without giving the Players neccessary Information. How do we know that HeavyWeapons can take the HadesCannon down? Why does no one mentions the possibility of taking the Beam-Reaper down with a Heavy Weapon? What are ThanixMissiles?

Yes, you can provide Pictures and based on that claim that the Hades Cannon wasn't stripped onto the back of a Destroyer, but you can't back up that by Codex or Ingame-Information. It's Speculation. Which is the weakness of the Game.

[Nimrodell]

Ah, Smudboy again gave me a good laugh, but seriously, this guy really doesn't know to enjoy his games lol. I guess he really has time and money - or as my people would say - Mind that has nothing serious to do is devil's playground. But I have to give him a credit for putting smile on my face again - what a muppet.

[IanPolaris]

Fixers0 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...
And the Crucible isn't Deus Ex Machina; it's a Lost Superweapon...

Actually it's more of Macguffin ,and a pretty bad one i must say, of course it does end up serving the role of a Deus Ex Machina  device.

Yes, the crucible is a McGuffin.  However, the catalyst IS the very definition of a Deus Ex Machina.  It is a new and contrived plot device designed to bring about a specific ending that only shows up at the very end of the narrative.

-Polaris

[Subguy614]

I like smudboy. He sounds a little like Carl Sagan.