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#76
Bobeagle77

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Once I installed patch 1.2, I run the DA game and on the main screen I tried to log in but say not connected to internet. Then I went to windows and my internet kept disconnecting and connecting (while the game is running). I exit the game and my connection gets fix. I tried this a couple of times even turning off DA updater. And It keeps doing samething I just mention. Any help?.

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Doesn't fix the extream loading or odd performance issues.

Useless to me, already put off playing it for weeks, now I get to wait for another month or so until or if it actually gets sorted.



How could they miss this problem?

So many people seem to be having it.


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Valaskjalf wrote...

try uninstalling EA activation from the Control Panel.


This worked for me. Thank you very much for the help :lol:

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No fixed textures = lose.

Modifié par NewYears1978, 08 décembre 2009 - 01:23 .


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What should have been first priority is the technical issues such memory leak long loading time etc cos it is much like the foundation of the game. Once that has been fix then the focus should be onto game mechanism which is less game breaking. Seems like this patch doesn't fix memory leak, long loading time.

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Soarar wrote...

What should have been first priority is the technical issues such memory leak long loading time etc cos it is much like the foundation of the game. Once that has been fix then the focus should be onto game mechanism which is less game breaking. Seems like this patch doesn't fix memory leak, long loading time.


It seems the memory leak and loading time issues are system specific. Many users including myself have not seen any sort of errors. Perhaps there is a common hardware or software or even driver specific issue. One example would be the Phenom CPU specific slowdown issue. Another is the AVG 9 antivirus crashes. Or the Creative X-FI sound card driver issues in Vista. Or the Realtek driver issues that may have been fixed. A lot of data must be collected to narrow down the issues.

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they should have put a error reporting tool in this patch...maybe it would have helped them sort things out.

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i have AVG 9 and i dont have any issues (crashing wise) maybe it is deeper than that i dont know

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I still average about 4 second load times. I've never seen these horribly long load times or memory leaks.



When Oblivion came out, I remember a bunch of people blaming the game for a bunch of problems that turned out to be that Oblivion was largely the only game really taxing the hardware to the point of video cards heating, or heavy paging to the hard drive, etc.



They may be some bugs, but I don't think there is a universal memory leak given that there are some (and I suspect most) players who have no leak.



The game likely sold tens of thousands of copies (if not more) on the PC right away. If 50 out of 50,000 people are complaining about memory leaks, then people get the impression everyone is having problems because they see a vocal minority.

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These patches are pathetic, I wish Bioware would actually focus on the bigger technical issues instead of the gameplay. However aside from releasing lousy patches they make great games.

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enderandrew wrote...

The game likely sold tens of thousands of copies (if not more) on the PC right away. If 50 out of 50,000 people are complaining about memory leaks, then people get the impression everyone is having problems because they see a vocal minority.


Acutally almost every one who has a AMD or just a  quad core processor is having the memory leak issues thats causing the longer load times and frame rate drop, so thats a lot of people. 

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I have an AMD processor and almost never have slowdowns. If I've been playing for 5 hours straight or something, then sometimes I do have to restart. Loading times in Lothering are also painful. The rest of the game is fine from a technical standpoint for me, beginning to end.



But there's a certain plot bug dealing with pretty much the most important decision you can make in the game that's terrible and, imo, really should have been fixed with this patch, or had a hotfix released for it by now.

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Hazard05 wrote...

enderandrew wrote...

The game likely sold tens of thousands of copies (if not more) on the PC right away. If 50 out of 50,000 people are complaining about memory leaks, then people get the impression everyone is having problems because they see a vocal minority.


Acutally almost every one who has a AMD or just a  quad core processor is having the memory leak issues thats causing the longer load times and frame rate drop, so thats a lot of people. 


I have an AMD quad core (AMD Phenom II X4 940 specifically).

I've heard everyone with Windows 7 has issues. I don't.

I've heard everyone with 64-bit had problems. I don't.

I've heard everyone with AMD graphics had problems. I don't.

Again, if dozens out of thousands complain ,that doesn't mean everyone had problems.

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Titius.Vibius wrote...

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That makes no sense, whatsoever....


What? You don't know that exploit with the darkspawn blood vials? You can go to Duncan and keep repeating that dialogue and not long you can reach up to level 25.


I tend to close my ears to exploits. ;)

This is a single players game, so if someone wants to exploit his game, I see no reason to prevent him. It's a conscious effort to do so, and you can simply choose not to do it, rather than requiring the dev to fix it. :shrug:

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Shade Sharphook

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I really hope this makes the game more stable and playable, but after reading the first sentence on the patch page....I am not hopeful...

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I'm glad the dagger thing got fixed and there was some balancing. Sad that bows didn't get modded to be nastier like in Georg's hotfix for daggers/bows, though. Will the toolset download be modified with the new scripts? I assume the constants for various spells have changed.



I'm also disappointed that the patch didn't address bugs like wrong hi-rez textures and memory leaking.

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I saw that patch 1.2 was out, was overjoyed... until I read through the patch notes. Nothing to fix the real technical issues that alot of people are having.........

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I'd like this patch a lot more if it didn't cause constant crashes for me.

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enderandrew wrote...

I still average about 4 second load times. I've never seen these horribly long load times or memory leaks.

When Oblivion came out, I remember a bunch of people blaming the game for a bunch of problems that turned out to be that Oblivion was largely the only game really taxing the hardware to the point of video cards heating, or heavy paging to the hard drive, etc.

They may be some bugs, but I don't think there is a universal memory leak given that there are some (and I suspect most) players who have no leak.

The game likely sold tens of thousands of copies (if not more) on the PC right away. If 50 out of 50,000 people are complaining about memory leaks, then people get the impression everyone is having problems because they see a vocal minority.


It's been confirmed as an issue with some AMD cards.  It is not because those cards are under-spec (quad core people are getting it).  So, while it's a vocal minority, it is a vocal minority who has a point.

It's not universal, but yes, it is an issue, and yes it should be dealt with--by bioware.

Just beause you aren't getting a bug doesn't mean that the people who are getting it are at fault.

And the general rule of customer service, by the way, is that for every person who complains, a hundred or more don't say a word.  But they remember, and they may not buy your product again.

I have no issues with other games, including recent games with better graphics.

It's a memory leak, they need to fix it.

Modifié par Taritu, 08 décembre 2009 - 04:06 .


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Again, if the leak affects all AMD quad-core processors, it should affect me. If it affected all Windows 7 users, it should affect me. If it affected all 64-bit users, it should affect me. If it affected AMD/ATI video cards, it should affect me.



I've heard all those things. Yet I don't have a memory leak.



It can't be that it affects all AMD quad-core processors. The only way I could even see that being a possibility is if the game has optional SSE5 instructions for those processors, but I HIGHLY doubt that. They don't even put out 64-bit binaries, nor take advantage of DirectX 10 or 11. I really highly doubt they're using SSE5 instructions.



It can't possibly affect all Windows 7, 64-bit, or ATI users either.



It is only affecting a subset of users.



What game companies should do is allow the game to be started in a debug mode with verbose logging via a command line switch. When players have problems, they start the game in verbose logging mode, and upload logs to EA support.



That would enable them to better identify the actual issues at hand.

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I'm happy for the patch as I've been holding off on the Dwarven noble origin until that equipment bug was fixed.



I'm a little confused why the elven boots thing wasn't fixed. Surely that's an easy switch? Box X, contents: ElfBoot Yes?



Still any movement is always good, there's a few companies out there that don't bother with good support, and I'm thankful that Bioware isn't one of them.

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I'm going to copypasta from the GameFAQs cheat tab on Dragon Age: Origins about redistributing your attribute points:



"During level up at the attribute screen first ADD points to the attribute you want to eventually take away from. Then press the "Reset" button. Now you can take away the number of points you added from that attribute and redistribute to a new attribute.



For example; lets say your character has 16 str and 16 dex when you level up. You want to take 3 dex away and add it to str. First add your 3 level up attribute points to dex bringing it to 19. Press the "Reset" button, which brings it down to 16. Now press the left arrow by dex 3 times to bring it down to 13. Now reassign all points to str.



If you want to reassign more than 3 points at a time, first add 3 to an attribute, press the reset button, add 3 three to the same attribute and repeat. Afterward when you press the left arrow by the attribute you'll be able to subtract the total number of points you added."



I was hoping that this exploit would be fixed as well. If BioWare's software developers aren't aware of this, then hopefully they will read this post and change it.



I am having some loading problems, but I think it is because my hard drive is failing. I'm buying a SSD tomorrow and I'm gonna work on installing Windows 7 on that puppy. :3

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Much too small. There are numerous issues in the game, both bugs and balance. For some god-awful reason, bows weren't fixed and DAUpdater still isn't working.

It feels like they're pulling a Bethesda on this. Drop it in the lap of the modders to band-aid with sub-par mods instead of doing proper patches.

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Oh, yeah, and uploading is still fubar.

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KenRed wrote...

beauville wrote...

So, what about shortbows? Are they 50/50 str/dex like longbows? Anyone tried this out?


I was using the hotfix before and leliana's damage was 34ish with shortbow.  (I went all dex).  Now she is down to 26.  I had to equip her with a better long bow, now, to get her damage up.  Anyways, it kind of fits, because the way I was playing, a plain silverite shortbow was better for her than her unique Morjedilenes Recurve. (spelling)  and that was weird to me.

What's wierd is that Marjolaine's Recurve is a longbow to begin with, and not a shortbow.

The hotfix makes sure that all of the ranged weapon have their uses. That is far more important than Marjolaine's Recurve being the final solution for Leliana. The hotfix changes should be incorporated into the game and the Recurve should be made a shortbow, that's all.