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[Wesus]

And you want to say that me3 wasnt cheap?

They screwed their own lore with javik and with the whole starchild bullocks.

I mean if we gonna talk with lore go to the SP side of this forum and go declare how the ending makes sense.

[NinthGeorgesw]

BD Manchild wrote...

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

You can add Protheans and keep multiplayer true to lore, why does nobody understand that?

Not without radically changing the established lore which, as I and others have tried to argue, would cheapen it completely. Whatever Bioware could concoct to resurrect the Protheans would be an unbelievably cheap cop-out.

Fair enough. I can see where you're coming from, but I personally think it could be done in a way that would improve the single player and Javiks story-arc.

[BD Manchild]

born2beagator wrote...

Its multiplayer. I don't care what the lore nerds want, never got the rage over fictional lore anyways.

Then go back to Gears of War or some other game where it's not claimed that the MP is part of the SP's lore. Why do people in favour of this idea keep ignoring that fact?

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Fair enough. I can see where you're
coming from, but I personally think it could be done in a way that
would improve the single player and Javiks story-arc.

If you think that, then fair enough. I personally don't see how, and I've yet to hear a convincing argument that can convince me otherwise.

Wesus wrote...

And you want to say that me3 wasnt cheap?

They screwed their own lore with javik and with the whole starchild bullocks.

I mean if we gonna talk with lore go to the SP side of this forum and go declare how the ending makes sense.

I would only defend the ending when pigs start flying, but I don't see how that's an excuse to mess up the lore any further.

Also, how did Javik screw up the lore? I thought he was implemented well, but as far as I'm concerned he should remain the last Prothean. To do so otherwise would, I feel, nullify the tragedy of his story arc.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 01 mai 2012 - 07:27 .

[Benny8484]

Absolutely not.  This happens I am out.  There are all ready enough issues with this game.  The only reason people want protheans added is to troll. 

Elcor, Rachni, Volus, Vorcha, are much more reasonable.

[born2beagator]

BD Manchild wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Its multiplayer. I don't care what the lore nerds want, never got the rage over fictional lore anyways.

Then go back to Gears of War or some other game where it's not claimed that the MP is part of the SP's lore. Why do people in favour of this idea keep ignoring that fact?

Apart from raising readiess, MP does not affect the SP.  MP being true to single player lore is purely imagined by each player.

so again, If it will add new experiences to MP, give it to me.

[Wesus]

Ah yes a million justicars makes sense...

Ah yes only 300k drell in the whole galaxy yet every man can play 2 giving at least more than 300k drells in the fight....

Ah yes fighting reapers on tuchanka and Cerberus on menae makes Logic sense...



I respect lore for THE SP but why should it affect my MP experience...

[born2beagator]

Wesus wrote...

Ah yes a million justicars makes sense...

Ah yes only 300k drell in the whole galaxy yet every man can play 2 giving at least more than 300k drells in the fight....

Ah yes fighting reapers on tuchanka and Cerberus on menae makes Logic sense...



I respect lore for THE SP but why should it affect my MP experience...

Exactly.  The lore hounds take this way too seriously.

[BoomDynamite]

We could say some Collectors on Palaven were captured and scientifically turned into Protheans.

Sign

[BD Manchild]

born2beagator wrote...

Apart from raising readiess, MP does not affect the SP.  MP being true to single player lore is purely imagined by each player.

so again, If it will add new experiences to MP, give it to me.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again. Bioware themselves already stated that MP would not contradict the SP lore.

So no, this isn't something imagined by players, it's something confirmed by the very guys who made the game.

[born2beagator]

BD Manchild wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Apart from raising readiess, MP does not affect the SP.  MP being true to single player lore is purely imagined by each player.

so again, If it will add new experiences to MP, give it to me.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again. Bioware themselves already stated that MP would not contradict the SP lore.

So no, this isn't something imagined by players, it's something confirmed by the very guys who made the game.

If you are going to go striclty on lore, then there are plenty of holes caused by MP already.

[NinthGeorgesw]

Wesus wrote...
Ah yes fighting reapers on tuchanka

There were Reapers on Tuchanka, remember? They were in a few missions.

[Wesus]

Out of experiences on several fora ive seen statements like :

If they add protheans in me3 i'm out --> bought the game and javik is their favorite character. Nobody cried about the lore they screwed for their 2 previous games, they all accepted it and bought the bloody DLC anyway

[born2beagator]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Wesus wrote...
Ah yes fighting reapers on tuchanka

There were Reapers on Tuchanka, remember? They were in a few missions.

and the million justicars?  cerberus and geth on the palaven moon?  the million drell?

[BoomDynamite]

Wesus wrote...

Out of experiences on several fora ive seen statements like :

If they add protheans in me3 i'm out --> bought the game and javik is their favorite character. Nobody cried about the lore they screwed for their 2 previous games, they all accepted it and bought the bloody DLC anyway

I love Javik. AND I was excied to see a Prothean. But yeah, you're right.

[Tangster]

BoomDynamite wrote...

We could say some Collectors on Palaven were captured and scientifically turned into Protheans.

Sign

lol.

Everybody else came up with somewhat reasonable pro-prothy (and anti-prothy) arguments(aside from the lore is tuffed with starkid anyway, lets stuff it some more), but this is just...not.

[Wesus]

Ah yes reapers in a by Cerberus taken krogan base after you took them over in SP

I failed there, wanted to type geth but for reapers we can give a logical explaination.

[Wesus]

THE very Same guys said :

YOUR DECISIONS MATTER


OW WAIT....

[uzivatel]

Wesus wrote...

Ah yes a million justicars makes sense...

Ah yes only 300k drell in the whole galaxy yet every man can play 2 giving at least more than 300k drells in the fight....

Ah yes fighting reapers on tuchanka and Cerberus on menae makes Logic sense...

All we know is there are at least four characters of each species fighting along with the Alliance since thats the maximum you can have in one match.

I remember fighting Reapers on Tuchanka in SP. Cerberus on Sur'Kesh or Thessia made sense?

edit: Reaper controlled geth platforms could be deployed the same way husks or batarians...

Wesus wrote...

Out of experiences on several fora ive seen statements like :

If they add protheans in me3 i'm out --> bought the game and javik is their favorite character. Nobody cried about the lore they screwed for their 2 previous games, they all accepted it and bought the bloody DLC anyway

I believe we all knew Shepard is going to find live Prothean since ME1.

Modifié par uzivatel, 01 mai 2012 - 07:39 .

[Wesus]

Justicars loyal to the justicar code, living exile from the world in monasteries --> makes a lot of sense for them to join the elite n7 troops.

Where Does geth make sense outside of their systems? It doesnt

Cerberus was after prothean data ---> makes sense if they are on thessia if the bloody prothean VI is there.

[shenlonzero]

No. This goes against the story of mass effect. And co-op follows the same rules of story as the campaign, so no. this idea is stupid

[lx ZANGIEF xl]

...... whatever reason you need to need to come up with is the best reason to put a prothean.

Instead of a random Prothean, what about putting Javik himself? He's "volunteering" his service to the MP. I think he would oblige, as long as he's fighting reapers. ;-)

[Tangster]

lx ZANGIEF xl wrote...

...... whatever reason you need to need to come up with is the best reason to put a prothean.

Instead of a random Prothean, what about putting Javik himself? He's "volunteering" his service to the MP. I think he would oblige, as long as he's fighting reapers. ;-)

You aren't even trying.
4 x Javik is more objectionable than 4 x clone prothys.

Modifié par Tangster, 01 mai 2012 - 07:44 .

[lx ZANGIEF xl]

Tangster wrote...

lx ZANGIEF xl wrote...

...... whatever reason you need to need to come up with is the best reason to put a prothean.

Instead of a random Prothean, what about putting Javik himself? He's "volunteering" his service to the MP. I think he would oblige, as long as he's fighting reapers. ;-)

You aren't even trying.
4 x Javik is more objectionable than 4 x clone prothys.

I don't know man. He seemed like he had a burning hatred for reapers. All he wanted to do is fight them. 

[BD Manchild]

lx ZANGIEF xl wrote...

I don't know man. He seemed like he had a burning hatred for reapers. All he wanted to do is fight them. 

So explain to us how he's suddenly able to be in several places at once.

[Tangster]

lx ZANGIEF xl wrote...

Tangster wrote...

lx ZANGIEF xl wrote...

...... whatever reason you need to need to come up with is the best reason to put a prothean.

Instead of a random Prothean, what about putting Javik himself? He's "volunteering" his service to the MP. I think he would oblige, as long as he's fighting reapers. ;-)

You aren't even trying.
4 x Javik is more objectionable than 4 x clone prothys.

I don't know man. He seemed like he had a burning hatred for reapers. All he wanted to do is fight them. 

But four of him?
Four of the same Prothean dude?