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[jpraelster93]

protheans for multiplayer

[R Rarzy]

Though it would definitely be cool to be Prothy the Prothean running around and dark channeling everything, the lore issue would just bother me too much.

Solution1: Either have a Prothean only MP level, which takes place in the flashbacks Shepard has during the From Ashes mission. All players would be Prothean. If a collector based map is ever released, they could be usable on that as well. But since this idea forces some limitations on gameplay....

Solution2: Only 1 Prothean player aloud in a match at any time.

I would also like to see the Particle Rifle, and Vorcha and Male Quarians.

[Distilled Poison]

They won't. They've been clear about their stance on lore, and I really don't think they'll break it. There's a big difference between bringing in one Prothean to tell the tragedy of his people and to expand upon the universe and story of the game versus bringing in an army to justify MP characters. One Prothean strengthens the lore. An army destroys it.

These people aren't arguing for Bioware. They're arguing for themselves.

[jpraelster93]

Protheans for mp = Money to be made

[XxIveGotKrabsxX]

I wish they never even added Javik to SP then we would not have this Issue, the only thing i want from MP is new objectives, or a whole new Co-Op mode, even adding new characters and weapons didnt really help alot, This MP is dying quickly...

[MoeRayShep]

I support this. Dark Channel ftw!

[BD Manchild]

XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

I wish they never even added Javik to SP then we would not have this Issue, the only thing i want from MP is new objectives, or a whole new Co-Op mode, even adding new characters and weapons didnt really help alot, This MP is dying quickly...

Yeah, I think Bioware needs to think of ways to incorporate new modes and ways to play the game before they think of anything else. I've always figured the multiplayer wouldn't last long as it's not Gears of War or Call of Duty; just about every other multiplayer game out there is dead for that simple reason, and I can see ME's multiplayer going the same way, which makes me wonder why they bothered to add it at all.

Don't get me wrong; I think it's a pleasant enough diversion. I just don't see how it can last against the heavy hitters unless Bioware do something drastic.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 30 avril 2012 - 04:11 .

[Wesus]

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Your logic is bad poison

/end discussion.

[jpraelster93]

Wesus wrote...

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Your logic is bad poison

/end discussion.

agreed with everything

[Wesus]

As well in the codex is stated that there are only 300k drells left nowadays. (number is out of my head as I'm on my telephone)

Now explain me how can we have at least each player play 2 drell when there are so few.

Thats right its not lore correct

[Tangster]

Wesus wrote...

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

 
Valid

Wesus wrote...
- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Correction, Reaper code geth are still active regardless of the war outcome(though probably not the huge number we seem to fight). See debrief from Asari Councilor post mission. 

Also, I'm not getting stuck into this argument again. I've stated my opinion before.

Modifié par Tangster, 30 avril 2012 - 04:18 .

[Wesus]

Still the majority of the geth joined oud cause, makes it weird to have geth at your side only to see that the reaper code got more than our actual army that joined us. It doesnt make sense.

I rather stay out of this as well but people come up with stupid logics which asks to be correcter.

[BD Manchild]

The problem with trying to justify their survival is that it comes across as an utter and complete cop-out. It cheapens everything about the Protheans up to that point; their sacrifice, the scale of the Reaper threat that their destruction represents, the tragedy of one survivor learning to overcome his survivor's guilt; all of it gone because some people wanted them to be playable in multiplayer.

This is the last I'm going to say on the matter. Seriously, it's like talking to a wall at this point.

[XxIveGotKrabsxX]

Wesus wrote...

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Your logic is bad poison

/end discussion.

Your first reason is wrong, they did have more than ONE bunker, it has been stated in the previous ME games, they did not have a sufficient enough power source to last, play the first ME and you would know this.

For the second reason, yes the could clone, but then technically, it would just be the same exact prothean just copies of it

Your third reason is also wrong the MP has nothing to do with the peace option, play ME2 and you would know There are 2 Geth factions, The ones on Rannoch, And the second Faction is the Heritics. The Geth on Rannoch, Didnt agree with the reapers, while the Heritics did support them, So yes even before ME3 MP there was Geth Vs Geth

Modifié par XxIveGotKrabsxX, 30 avril 2012 - 04:30 .

[LeandroBraz]

MP was planned to follow the lore and be part of the history, a prothean char would kill it, so:

1 - I disapprove;

2 - It won't happen;

3 - and if you create a topic with an idea, be ready to be criticized. One does not simple ask to receive only positive posts.

[Distilled Poison]

"Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP."

Thank you for proving you don't understand the story at all. It has been explained REPEATEDLY in the story why you are fighting Geth and allied with Geth. I'm sorry you're too oblivious to understand. Some Geth allied with the Reapers, some did not. Pay attention next time.

"As well in the codex is stated that there are only 300k drells left nowadays."

I've already explained why it's necessary to take liberties with numbers. You can't have MP without it.

And none of what you said refutes the facts previously stated. MP takes place during Sheps collection of war assets. There was no army of Protheans during this time, therefor, there will be no Protheans in MP.


AND EVEN BESIDE THOSE FACTS, If cloning Protheans was a viable option, it would have been brought up. It never was.

In short: PAY ATTENTION.

[Wesus]

On the 1st point, explain me how javik survived his cryo sleep when there is not enough power supply ( ive played all 3 games btw). I never said they had only one bunker....

3rd reason is on what distilled poison said.

[Wesus]

Ah yes here you beat your own logic poison

You said : BW expects us to have peace between geth and quarians

HERE THE REAPER CODE IS DESTROYED

Now you say : some geth allied with THE reapers and some didnt

Wow we make à jump in THE SP in your logics.

Shepard collects war Assets and it only takes one sentence up to make à prothean clone army in the SP to make THE option viable. Hell even if there are only 300 protheans b4 we retake earth every asset counts.

[XxIveGotKrabsxX]

Its been awhile since i played through ME3 sp but i believe in one of Shepards vision on Eden Prime, the Prothean VI explains to javik, in order for him to survive, power from the other pods would be turned off, in short if he wasnt discovered when he was, then it would have been a matter of time before power failed to his pod

[SGC Reaper SV]

jpraelster93 wrote...

Wesus wrote...

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Your logic is bad poison

/end discussion.

agreed with everything

+1

[Distilled Poison]

For ****'s sake Wesus, PLAY THE STORY!

Some Geth decided of their own free will to join the Reapers, no Reaper code involved. Honestly, did you play with your sound off, or are you dense?

[Wesus]

You beat your own Logic man,

In previous points you State THE garnering of war Assets and that BW assumes we made peace between quarians and geth Hence why we can both play them but then you fall back on some geth not accepting THE reaper code.

So what we can conclude out of your input you realise your wrong with the times and THE peace between THE quarians and geth being THE explaination of why we can play them and you instead go back in time to me2 and pre-peace in me3 only to defeat your own arguements.

[Distilled Poison]

I give up. I ****ing give up. You are so impossibly stupid you have literally destroyed my faith in humanity. I am now denouncing my god because surely no loving creator would instill on this world such a wretched, half formed abomination as you.

I'm sorry you don't understand what's happening in Mass Effect 3. I really am. I feel bad for you. The simple fact that you can't even comprehend that in Mass Effect 3, there are two factions of Geth lands you as the holder of the title of "Most Stupid Poster" on these forums.

I'm out. I quit. I give up. You're seriously arguing things that you don't understand, that there aren't two factions of Geth. I can't even begin to imagine any words would help you, so I'll just say,

Have a nice life.

[Zardoc]

Wesus wrote...

You beat your own Logic man,

In previous points you State THE garnering of war Assets and that BW assumes we made peace between quarians and geth Hence why we can both play them but then you fall back on some geth not accepting THE reaper code.

So what we can conclude out of your input you realise your wrong with the times and THE peace between THE quarians and geth being THE explaination of why we can play them and you instead go back in time to me2 and pre-peace in me3 only to defeat your own arguements.

How hard is it for you to understand that there are 2 factions of geth, even during ME3? The heretics didn't just magically disappear from ME2 to ME3.

And on the prothean matter, first of all

BD Manchild wrote...

The problem with trying to justify their survival is that it comes across as an utter and complete cop-out. It cheapens everything about the Protheans up to that point; their sacrifice, the scale of the Reaper threat that their destruction represents, the tragedy of one survivor learning to overcome his survivor's guilt; all of it gone because some people wanted them to be playable in multiplayer.

 

this. 

Second, on the matter of simply cloning them I ask from what tissue? Javik's? I doubt he'd allow that. His goal isn't the revival of his race, it's avenging the death of his people. And once he's done with that he'd seek the graves of his companions and join them in death. He pretty much says that in the game. So no, no clones for you.

Modifié par Zardoc, 30 avril 2012 - 04:57 .

[BD Manchild]

Wesus wrote...

You beat your own Logic man,

In previous points you State THE garnering of war Assets and that BW assumes we made peace between quarians and geth Hence why we can both play them but then you fall back on some geth not accepting THE reaper code.

So what we can conclude out of your input you realise your wrong with the times and THE peace between THE quarians and geth being THE explaination of why we can play them and you instead go back in time to me2 and pre-peace in me3 only to defeat your own arguements.

...

Here is where I give up. To borrow an analogy from Nostalgia Critic, this is like talking to a horse's v*****.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 30 avril 2012 - 04:55 .