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[Peer of the Empire]

After I stop playing this game, sure, the devs can include protheans

[Wesus]

Lol I realise that, ive played all 3 games. Just pointing out that he beats his own arguements. I never stated my thoughts on the geths since this is a thread about protheans. I know most of the lore out of my head but I never said I didnt know about the heretics and the as i love to call em "believers"

Heretic and believer are the names of my geths.

[uzivatel]

Even if the peace between Geth and Quarians is achieved, the SP clearly states there remain some geth bodies loaded with reaper code.

[Wesus]

Yes but how is this force as big as it is in the MP as well if the game should be lore correct we should only be able to fight geth in their systems. Cos according to lore it makes no sense to have geth fighting you on tuchanka, or reapers fighting you in a secret Cerberus facility.

Im a lore fanatic but MP=/=SP , MP can't be fun if it would be strictly lore correct.

[soulriss]

draco Mastah wrote...

I 100% agree with protheans in multiplayer (also vorchas)

I support this idea; same to that one:

Male Quarians for MP

IMO The more species the better MP

[xZBx]

As a psych student, it's not that I don't understand why some people do not want a Prothean for mp, it's that I don't want to understand them.

How can you limit your level of entertainment for some ruleset in a >video game<? I'm not here to redefine the purpose of video games, but more content to a gradually decreasing mp would not hurt at the expense of "keeping the lore," eventhough Geth/Quarians have died and are evil in the eyes of some mass effect gamers..

[uzivatel]

How large is the force in MP? there are few hundreds platforms per match, I bet the Reapers kept way more platforms than that.
Someone could argue that the Reaper controlled geth platforms are not much different from other Reaper units and thus could be deployed in any system with Reaper presence the same way Husks, Cannibals or Brutes are seen throughout the galaxy ... but thats just trying to rationalize.
Even though the map / enemy combinations dont generally make much sense, both maps and enemy on its own are based on ME3 SP. Cant be said about Protheans.

PS: we did get to fight Reapers in secret Cerberus facility in ME3 and we did get to fight Geth in secret Cerberus facility in ME2...

Modifié par uzivatel, 30 avril 2012 - 05:23 .

[uzivatel]

xZBx wrote...

As a psych student, it's not that I don't understand why some people do not want a Prothean for mp, it's that I don't want to understand them.

How can you limit your level of entertainment for some ruleset in a >video game<?  I'm not here to redefine the purpose of video games, but more content to a gradually decreasing mp would not hurt at the expense of "keeping the lore," eventhough Geth/Quarians have died and are evil in the eyes of some mass effect gamers..

How would video games provide entertainment without some ruleset in the first place?

[xZBx]

Why wouldn't the modification of said ruleset provide further entertainment, as seems to be the general consensus around the thread?

[uzivatel]

xZBx wrote...

Why wouldn't the modification of said ruleset provide further entertainment, as seems to be the general consensus around the thread?

There is no consencus despite the OP requiring anyone opposing his idea to STFU.

[Tangster]

xZBx wrote...

As a psych student, it's not that I don't understand why some people do not want a Prothean for mp, it's that I don't want to understand them.

How can you limit your level of entertainment for some ruleset in a >video game<? I'm not here to redefine the purpose of video games, but more content to a gradually decreasing mp would not hurt at the expense of "keeping the lore," eventhough Geth/Quarians have died and are evil in the eyes of some mass effect gamers..

You've clearly never played D+D.

[Wesus]

D+D as in dungeon and dragons?

[Tangster]

Wesus wrote...

D+D as in dungeon and dragons?

Yeah. Rule book fun. Setup a game, play according to predefined rules. Not directly comperable to this situation, but it shows that people enjoy games within a set or rules.

Simliarly, every board game ever made, you don't hear of people saying "No, Chess would be more fun if the knight got a buff so he could control squares like the Queen!"

[A Wild Snorlax]

I'm all for protheans in MP.

I don't care if iit breaks lore, MP is not the same as single player. I can distinguish between the 2 and even if it somehow breaks lore I have enough imagination to come up with a plausible reason for there to be protheans in multiplayer. Hell if they made a miniature reaper ship a playable character I'm sure I coudl come up with a plausible reason for that too.

There's no story in MP, just a bunch of characters fighting a horde of bots. Prothean haters, get over yourselves.

[Wesus]

You can't compare d+d with this xD (never played it thou )

Its like comparing LotR with Star Wars

[Tangster]

Wesus wrote...

You can't compare d+d with this xD (never played it thou )

Its like comparing LotR with Star Wars

Tangster wrote...
Not directly comperable to this situation

I didn't. I was just pointing out errors in the other dudes logic(why would you have rules in a game). I'm staying strictly teh fok away from directly entering into the main topic. I can do without the drama and personal attacks I got last time for simply having an opinion.

Modifié par Tangster, 30 avril 2012 - 05:52 .

[xZBx]

You misunderstood me, or I wasn't clear enough.Not rules within the game, but unwritten rules about something not making sense when other things that don't make sense in some people's games still take place in MP.

"I shouldn't be able to see any Quarians in my MP experience, goes against my lore, this game sucks."

What forward thinking individual says that? If Protheans were included from the get go in MP, due to certain would be decisions in SP, then what? Besides, they've already ****ed things up beyond repair with the endings.

[uzivatel]

xZBx wrote...

What forward thinking individual says that? If Protheans were included from the get go in MP, due to certain would be decisions in SP, then what? Besides, they've already ****ed things up beyond repair with the endings.

Then there would be another major WTF moment besides the ending...

Hyperbole: If SP included flying mecha Jack Sparrow dual-wielding laser cats and his crew of flying mecha pirates dual-wielding laser cats, then we could play some nameless flying mecha pirates dual-wielding laser cats in MP.
Sure, BioWare did no such thing, but we can still have flying mecha pirates dual-wielding laser cats ... because the ending was not that great.

Modifié par uzivatel, 30 avril 2012 - 06:24 .

[Zaraki kanzaki]

BD Manchild wrote...

Zaraki kanzaki wrote...
as i wrote in the first page, if you're not agree you could abvoid this thread and go supporting the old lore of BW or ME or what you want, but please, it's not important what BW said about MP because currently is confuted by the introduction of geth and batharian, so people should resign onesef to that

If people didn't want to hear opinions that don't agree with theirs, then they shouldn't have bothered to post them on a public forum and allow people to vote on the matter.

And as I pointed out, the presence of Geth and Batarian characters CAN be justified in the lore. The presence of Protheans CAN'T, not without undoing everything the series has established up to that point.

due to the fact that ME is a RPG it has different events(agree with me?), the arrival was a DLC that you couldn't do anything to help batarian (so you can't justify them), geth and quarians can't follow only one event that is the peace (because in my case, for example i annihilated quarians, so they shouldn't be in my MP and i shouldn't  see quarians in my missions). all right? SP it's offically linked with MP, but under-the-record it's not. so BW must do something or  MP will disappear beacuse in two months Diablo3 is coming and it wpn't have mercy for the other RPGs.
and sincerely i posted this thread to find people who is agree with me, and i limited a this thread in way to not open any kind of discussion, but people don't want to understand and expecially want a discussion, but i had done it too many times that i'm a little tired, you see?

[Zaraki kanzaki]

Wesus wrote...

Alright time to actually make this discussion valid.

Protheans can be introduced in the MP due to several reasons

-protheans were an advanced alien species so why would they have only one cryo sleep bunker I mean we are in 2012 and our world is infested with fallout shelters.

-DNA based of tissue samples (perhaps even à single cell from javik 's memory shard) because we got Mordin Solus on board, all he has to do is sent a sample to the salarian homeworld and there we go, protheans. A krogan could clone with technology thats not as good as the salarian technology.

- you say that we can play geth because BW expected us to have peace between quarians and geth. Now tell me sir how the f*ck do we still fight vs the geth in MP.

Your logic is bad poison

/end discussion.

very nice opinion, i support

[Zaraki kanzaki]

Wesus wrote...

Yes but how is this force as big as it is in the MP as well if the game should be lore correct we should only be able to fight geth in their systems. Cos according to lore it makes no sense to have geth fighting you on tuchanka, or reapers fighting you in a secret Cerberus facility.

Im a lore fanatic but MP=/=SP , MP can't be fun if it would be strictly lore correct.

finally onther one who believe that MP<>SP 

[Riscoliscious]

When it comes to the geth, I get how there are still geth fighting geth due to the reaper influence / heretics. However, even though the lore theoretically supports the type of technology to help restart the Prothean race, judging by Javik's opinion on the matter, I don't think he wants to reproduce and start over. And certainly his opinion would be a huge determining factor.

Also, with all of the resources and technology in the entire galaxy being committed to fighting the reapers, I don't think that anyone has the time and resources to commit to such a large project. I agree that playing a prothean in MP would be pretty sweet, but I'm willing to bet that BW has no intentions of trying to explain that into the storyline.

The ONLY way they could do it is if a DLC was released for SP in which perhaps by examining Javik's memory chip they discovered another cache of protheans that was still powered up and they were still in stasis.

General Consensus: It would be cool, but I don't think BW would do it from a lore standpoint based on the fact that Javik's attitude is pretty much that he's ready to go rest with his dead brothers. Would be cool though...

[MissMinaethiel]

I have a question for people against Protheans.

While you're playing MP, do you HONESTLY care about what you're playing as? I mean do you focus more on the character you're playing than getting the job done? Surely it shouldn't matter what you're playing as so long as the reward is earned at the end?

[Zaraki kanzaki]

Riscoliscious wrote...

When it comes to the geth, I get how there are still geth fighting geth due to the reaper influence / heretics. However, even though the lore theoretically supports the type of technology to help restart the Prothean race, judging by Javik's opinion on the matter, I don't think he wants to reproduce and start over. And certainly his opinion would be a huge determining factor.

Also, with all of the resources and technology in the entire galaxy being committed to fighting the reapers, I don't think that anyone has the time and resources to commit to such a large project. I agree that playing a prothean in MP would be pretty sweet, but I'm willing to bet that BW has no intentions of trying to explain that into the storyline.

The ONLY way they could do it is if a DLC was released for SP in which perhaps by examining Javik's memory chip they discovered another cache of protheans that was still powered up and they were still in stasis.

General Consensus: It would be cool, but I don't think BW would do it from a lore standpoint based on the fact that Javik's attitude is pretty much that he's ready to go rest with his dead brothers. Would be cool though...

well salarian have a lot of time, and also hanars and volus that are not very strong races, and mordin(before dying) could make a sort of clone machine like okeer prject and the memories could be added with the memories of javik and the object he shows shepard everytime they talk(sorry but i don't remember the name of that thing)
so even if they are clones they can understand what they are and wgay they do, and they are old angry samurai that were killed by reapers

[Zaraki kanzaki]

rember to visit my other thread where you can post your opinion for a new DLC