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[Alamar2078]

DJBare wrote...
It was Bioware that initially offered it up for free after the backlash, so if anyone is to blame for the direction your suggesting, it's them.

What was the phrase again? "Sorry guys, we did not know that's what you wanted"; really?, were they not supposed to be listening to fan feedback?, it's been my understanding that the games development was a collaborative process between the developers and the fans, it's pretty obvious by the numbers and the backlash that while they were listening to fans they were not hearing the fans..

I'm on your side but IMHO BW's statements indicate that they're just following the PR group's orders and being "good employees".

IIRC in the tech world a product can have 3 qualities:  Good, Fast, Cheap.  You get to pick 2 of 3.   It seems EA is forcing BW to go for FAST & CHEAP [by my standards].

YMMV

[Bantz]

I would have gladly paid for a new ending if they had come out and said "yep we f'd up now we're fixing it". But when you throw out this "artistic integrity" bull**** no way I would have paid for it. So I'm glad they are doing it for free.

That said as someone said, this is a business move. They can spin it all they want to have created the "largest fan experience ever" but in reality anyone who knows anything about videogames at this point knows the ending is terrible. I've talked to people who don't even play video games who have said "didn't you get ME3? Is the ending really as bad as they say?". This is a PR move for bioware. See we're not the bad guys we're going to do this for free for you.

[Apathy1989]

You're loco.

[Faded-Myth]

BioWare have more than enough cash to funnel into it. As much as I heart BioWare and Mass Effect, I'd rather not have to pay for a fix to an ending they botched up. I'll gladly pay money for future DLC if they do a good job with the EC, but the notion of having to pay extra for theirmistake is just insulting. I'm glad it's free, PR tactic or not.

[DS Monkfish]

From time to time, I think "I'd pay for a properly fixed ending". Then my brain kicks in and reminds me of the following:

The cost of my Collector's Edition

The utter lies we were told about the wildly different endings

More lies about our choices throughout the series being reflected in those endings

The total lack of any sense of triumph at the end of what had been the best sci-fi trilogy in the last decade

Bioware's refusal to accept that the ending was anything less than genius

Diana Allers

Tali's face

Eavesdropping fetch quests replacing conversation and exploration

One hub world to visit

More lies about multiplayer not being a requirement

More lies about the possibility of a "reapers win" bad ending

StarJar, with Shepard just bending over and taking it

That crass cash-grab DLC message at the end

Tali's face again

My sweet (shudder)

The obscene amount of money Bioware/EA will already have made from multiplayer microtransactions

Tali's damn face again

"A bigger fan reaction than any other videogame's conclusion in the medium's history"

Synthesis, proving that Kirk Lazarus was absolutely right in Tropic Thunder when he told Tugg Speedman why he didn't get the Oscar for Simple Jack

StarJar again

Those dream sequences telling me I should feel bad. My Shepard didn't.

The kid at the start, shoehorning in an attempt at evoking pity when it was actually hamfisted, heavy-handed, tacky, lame and cheesy

StarJar's stupid flawed logic

Artistic Integrity = cameltoe, stock images and photoshop, among other things

... and then I'm angry again.

Grrr.

[Velocithon]

dmath2 wrote...

*snip*

Grrr.

Pretty much this. The ending isn't the only thing wrong. This game had multiple failures throughout. It was rushed. Plain and simple.

[crimzontearz]

their paiment will be our future purchases of their products which they will NOT have if the ending remains scerwed the way it is

[FlamingBoy]

it should have been the game to start with, this is the real test
by how good the extended cut is we can determine if bioware is willing to eat some cost for its fans and might repair SOME of the damage

keep in mind there are more problems with the game than the ending

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

If they charged for a 5 hr add on that replaced the current mission from the Cerberus base onward to an ending that made sense, I'd pay for a 5 hr add on. Just call it an alternate ending. But they're not going to replace Starjar Binks and Red, Blue or Green. We're basically stuck. Blue or Green are going to be the ME canon.

[N7KnightSabre]

Creepter wrote...

I would've been willing to pay extra for a new ending if Bioware just came out and admitted that they made a mistake the first time and were willing to rework it.

And I'm sure I'm not alone in those feelings.

[Gen Petitt]

They screw up they pay for it simple an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth something like that

[wantedman dan]

alpha54 wrote...

OP is right. All this will propagate is the idea that if you whine enough, you'll get free stuff. What a great direction for society to be heading in.

What? This statement implies that you're completely oblivious to how capitalism works.

[TreguardD]

LadyPaine wrote...

Creepter wrote...

I would've been willing to pay extra for a new ending if Bioware just came out and admitted that they made a mistake the first time and were willing to rework it.

And I'm sure I'm not alone in those feelings.

I'd gripe about it...


but I'd probably buy it.

Whether or not I bought anything else?

[Wrathra]

Sorry, but no. I expect them to deliver the game they promised with the money I originally paid for it. If they over extended themselves and went overbudget, that's not my problem.

[Qutayba]

Most of us freely told BioWare that we would pay for a better ending. But they decided to give it to us free because they would like it to be a positive gesture towards the fans. Even if it's not perfect, I will be content if they do a respectable job. At this point, for me anyway, BioWare's mending fences with the fans is far more important than making the ending perfect. I want them to return to the storytelling principles they have always excelled at, I don't want to keep punishing them.

[my Aim is True]

wantedman dan wrote...

Sorry for their luck. They can use the $70 they took from me the first time around from selling me an incomplete game.

+1, except for me it was $80.

EA deserves to have it come out of their pocketbook.  They rushed the conclusion to my favorite game series so they could pad their 1st Quarter profits.  F 'em.

[Goaliebot]

dmath2 wrote...

From time to time, I think "I'd pay for a properly fixed ending". Then my brain kicks in and reminds me of the following:

The cost of my Collector's Edition

The utter lies we were told about the wildly different endings

More lies about our choices throughout the series being reflected in those endings

The total lack of any sense of triumph at the end of what had been the best sci-fi trilogy in the last decade

Bioware's refusal to accept that the ending was anything less than genius

Diana Allers

Tali's face

Eavesdropping fetch quests replacing conversation and exploration

One hub world to visit

More lies about multiplayer not being a requirement

More lies about the possibility of a "reapers win" bad ending

StarJar, with Shepard just bending over and taking it

That crass cash-grab DLC message at the end

Tali's face again

My sweet (shudder)

The obscene amount of money Bioware/EA will already have made from multiplayer microtransactions

Tali's damn face again

"A bigger fan reaction than any other videogame's conclusion in the medium's history"

Synthesis, proving that Kirk Lazarus was absolutely right in Tropic Thunder when he told Tugg Speedman why he didn't get the Oscar for Simple Jack

StarJar again

Those dream sequences telling me I should feel bad. My Shepard didn't.

The kid at the start, shoehorning in an attempt at evoking pity when it was actually hamfisted, heavy-handed, tacky, lame and cheesy

StarJar's stupid flawed logic

Artistic Integrity = cameltoe, stock images and photoshop, among other things

... and then I'm angry again.

Grrr.

Oh lordy I feel you bro. This x100000000.

[Kevlar xD]

This is ridiculous. You're forgetting how much money they made putting that travesty called Mass Effect 3 on the shelves. You're telling me that part of what certainly would have been at least a $50 million profit isn't enough to fund another project? Bioware sure as hell can what needs to be done without taking more money from us.

[NubXL]

Yeah I feel so bad for them, not making any money on anything. If only they sold Mass Effect 3 instead of giving it away for free. $60 - $80 for each copy could do wonders to fund them, especially if they sold millions. If only...

[ahandsomeshark]

victoriakm wrote...

Creepter wrote...

I would've been willing to pay extra for a new ending if Bioware just came out and admitted that they made a mistake the first time and were willing to rework it.

And I'm sure I'm not alone in those feelings.

Mostly this.  .

agreed.

[katamuro]

bioware is a big game developer that is under EA's wing which is a multibillion dollar company. An extended cut that would cost maybe a couple of million dollars at most is not that much. Yes it will eat their profit margin and yeah the money would be taken out of already existing budget but they can afford it and they should make it as it was supposed to be in the game originally. There is absolutely no reason to feel bad for them as its their own mistake they are fixing

[JerusPI]

If Bioware isn't going to change the endings just "Clarify"

{soon to be in an censored word like soundalikes Truck witch hunt strut and other less curse filled like "artistic integrity"]

They should give us a couple more missions/n7 missions as well

[Guanxii]

Artistic Integrity aside and all things considered extending the existing ending is the cheaper option than creating a new ending sequence. Creating a whole new 'Priority: Earth' for free probably wouldn't be feasible. How would Broken Steel have turned out if that had been free? It just wouldn't have happened.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

lordnyx1 wrote...

Nope should have been in the game to start with.

This. I want what I was promised. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Slappy Ya Face]

Cry me a river. It was an incomplete game, and their loss of countless sales in future titles should be incentive enough.