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[Pain Train]

ME3 is bad like a three course meal is bad. The first two courses may be excellent, but when you catch food poisoning from the desert, you don't really care so much about the first two plates anymore NOR about going back for more any time soon.

[UrgentArchengel]

It's highly unfinished. Needed more development time. It's not bad, it just could have been lots...LOTS better. Not bad, definiately not terrible, just disappointing.

[Armass81]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

I think were on the same page here.

[nuculerman]

B without the ending. C- with the ending. ME1 was an A++ for it's time. ME2 was an A-. So yeah. Not bad, but by far the most disappointing game ever for me. Next is DA2. Thanks Bioware.

[Sebby]

It's an average game with a horrid story and some very bad game design choices (DA2 style fetch quests).

[The Spamming Troll]

if someone gave you ME1, and ME2, and said "here, make us 3rd game based on these two games"

and you came out with a subpar game,

then to me that means your a bad developer.

in my opinion, its easy to see ME3 could have been better. ALOT better.

[Clayless]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

Indeed.

I sometimes feel like I'm the only one that didn't vastly overestimate the processing power of 2 DVD's and an Xbox 360.

[KotorEffect3]

It's a great game some people are just nitpicky and overreactive.

[Soulstice88]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

It's highly unfinished. Needed more development time. It's not bad, it just could have been lots...LOTS better. Not bad, definiately not terrible, just disappointing.

Pretty much this, it's good (better then a lot of games) but was too rushed and cut down compared to the first two.

[The Milky Waver]

Bioware made this game out to be a legendary ending to the series. But it was really a rushed game that had a fairly poor plot.

[Hudathan]

Don't you know it's cool to not like stuff these days?

[KotorEffect3]

Hudathan wrote...

Don't you know it's cool to not like stuff these days?

lol that seems to be the mentality of the internet these days.  Hate on whatever is new.

[zambot]

ME3 was not a bad game. Mordrin's death and the resolution of Rannoch will be remembered by me always.

[Deathstroke123]

Velocithon wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

What? You make no sense. Hype has nothing to do with this.

The entire trilogy was buildig up and led us down the path where we expected numerous things to be in the finale, and add to it that the devs also made it sound like those things would be in the game.

And none of it was. And certain aspects of the game were worse than before.

Seems to me you shot yourself in the foot with this statement.

Things said unofficially by Bioware employees about the game months before it went gold = Hype.

Thank you for proving my point.

Also, you're second point is highly argueable. I know alot of the BSN seemed to adore the copy pasted environments and randomly generated terrain of the first game, but a largely silent majority (namely people who don't spend weeks at a time complaining about video games on a forum) is glad to see it gone. I'm one of them.

[Pain Train]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

All I was expecting was a great story that delievered a logical and satisfying conclusion to an amazing series. I don't call that getting caught up in the hype, but common sense for a AAA title from a supposed AAA developer based on the quality of the first two games in the series. It failed for me because of the story, not the gameplay, visuals...

Modifié par Pain Train, 26 avril 2012 - 11:43 .

[StevenG_CT]

Few people are saying that ME3 is a bad game. Many people are saying that it is a disappointment and given how high the expectations were for the game I think that is a perfectly reasonable viewpoint.

Personally I'd say ME3 was a slightly above average game. I enjoyed most of it but it was very apparent to me that parts of the game were rushed and not polished nearly as well as they should have been (and I'm not just talking about the ending here).

[nrcrane]

A lot of this reminds me of a bad break up. Despite how great things were, once it ends badly all people tend to do is go back and nit pick every fault and forget anything that was good.

[Muhkida]

Alamar2078 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

QFT

I agree, too bad it can easily go along with hindsight 20/20

[Reign762]

ME3 was definitely not their "Best Work" despite what Muzyka says. It was far from it. Was it a enjoyable game before the ending, yes, but it is not a Game of the Year.

[Clayless]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Seems to me you shot yourself in the foot with this statement.

Things said unofficially by Bioware employees about the game months before it went gold = Hype.

Thank you for proving my point.

Also, you're second point is highly argueable. I know alot of the BSN seemed to adore the copy pasted environments and randomly generated terrain of the first game, but a largely silent majority (namely people who don't spend weeks at a time complaining about video games on a forum) is glad to see it gone. I'm one of them.

Where have you been all this time? Again I thought I was the only one pointing out that the time people spend complaining about the end probably rivals the amount of time they spent playing the entire series, if not surpasses it by now.

[Narayan23]

The game wasn't bad it just wasn't anything special either. It was mediocre at best.
It was a poor man's shooter combined with a poor man's rpg in my opinion.

[Nightwriter]

Pain Train wrote...

ME3 is bad like a three course meal is bad. The first two courses may be excellent, but when you catch food poisoning from the desert, you don't really care so much about the first two plates anymore NOR about going back for more any time soon.

Indeed.

And it's difficult to discuss the objective merits of the first two courses when you're still bent over the toilet throwing up from the food poisoning, I find.

[Deathstroke123]

Zardoc wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

While it's not necessarily a bad game, it is by all means mediocre and when you consider the role it was supposed to play and the potential leading up to it, it can be called indeed a bad game in comparison to what it should've been. And in some parts it really was poorly done.

Mediocre? I wanna know what kind of games you play on a regular basis to comparitively call this one mediocre. I must be missing out big time.

Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age: Origins.

Well, isn't that a shame? I seem to have played them all already. Strangely, I also distinctly recall these games being equal to if not worse then ME3. Go figure, huh?

Mass Effect 1: Worse right off the bat because of the combat system. Call me crazy, but I play video GAMES because of GAMEplay. The story is ok, but I could pick up any book and get a better story. Next.

Mass Effect 2: A better suggestion. I wholeheartedly recommend this game to anyone who will listen. ME3 feels like a worth ending (overall, not just priority earth onward) to what ME2 started, for me. Next.

DA:O: Hmm... Honestly, I could never really get into this one. Not entirely sure why. Farthest I've gotten is the dwarf underground city before I lost the urge to continue. Wouldn't be fair for me to judge then, since I didn't finish it I suppose, but... meh. Pass.

[Hoid]

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

[Velocithon]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

What? You make no sense. Hype has nothing to do with this.

The entire trilogy was buildig up and led us down the path where we expected numerous things to be in the finale, and add to it that the devs also made it sound like those things would be in the game.

And none of it was. And certain aspects of the game were worse than before.

Seems to me you shot yourself in the foot with this statement.

Things said unofficially by Bioware employees about the game months before it went gold = Hype.

Thank you for proving my point.

Also, you're second point is highly argueable. I know alot of the BSN seemed to adore the copy pasted environments and randomly generated terrain of the first game, but a largely silent majority (namely people who don't spend weeks at a time complaining about video games on a forum) is glad to see it gone. I'm one of them.

How in the hell is someone saying "Your choices will matter" hype?

Hype is advertising. Hype is what Battlefield 3 did, which had countless TV commercials, countless YouTube commercials, had ads on munchies, etc. etc. Mass Effect 3 did this a bit too, but that isn't what got people excited.

A dev saying what is planned for the game is NOT hype. And fans believing it doesn't mean they're falling into a trap.

Also, I like how you took my vague comment about "certain aspects being worse" and somehow said it's arguable and talked about copy pasted environments like that's what I was talking about.