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[crimzontearz]

your post, OP, lacks perspective

[razor150]

RevenantWolf wrote...

Main storyline minus ending- 10/10
Side missions- 5/10
scanning fetch quests- 2/10
War asset system- 1/10
Ending- 0/10

conclusion- bad game

I am not sure how anybody can say the main storyline is 10/10, because it is aweful. Tuchanca and Rannoch are brilliant, but they are substories to the main plot that holds those two stories together is complete ass. This is the main plot in a nutshell, Earth is attacked and Shapard leaves to rally the council races. Liara, who Shepard saves as he is leaving, makes an 11th hour discovery of a Prothean weapon of Mass Desctruction that nobody knows what it does and it is missing a major piece that makes it work, the Catalyst. Despite not knowing what the Catalyst is or knowing what the weapon actually does the Alliance begins building this Crucible anyways with the Council races joining in later. Shepard keeps doing FedEx missions and getting the galaxy to work together until finally you are lead to the turd sandwich of an ending. 

I personally wouldn't say the game is bad, parts are bad like the story, the ending and Priority Earth, but the over all game is still decent. 

[Deathstroke123]

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The game was pretty average with a couple high points, and one very very low point. The story was around that of a 2/5 sci-fi movie -- basically the old "worth a look on Saturday night w/ popcorn on Creature Features". This is when you consider all the plot inconsistencies and bouts of main and supporting character stupidity that happened at various times. It had it's moments. Then it had stuff that simply didn't make sense. And then it had stuff I simply want to unsee -- like the ending. It was given until March 6, 2012 to get done, and no longer. EA for the loss. They will take any game that has consistently been rating around 8-9 and drag it down.

[scrapmetals]

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

[Hoid]

No deathstroke because arguing to you is like arguing with a wall. You made up your mind I have made up mine.

[Apathy1989]

Zardoc wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

While it's not necessarily a bad game, it is by all means mediocre and when you consider the role it was supposed to play and the potential leading up to it, it can be called indeed a bad game in comparison to what it should've been. And in some parts it really was poorly done.

Mediocre? I wanna know what kind of games you play on a regular basis to comparitively call this one mediocre. I must be missing out big time.

Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age: Origins.

Heh pretty much. ME3 makes DA2 look like an alright game. 

ME1 - 8/10. Bad inventory, bad combat.
DAO - 9/10. Buggy. Bad graphics. Random jumps in difficulty curve.
ME2 - 9/10. Lack of main story, compensated by great characters.
DA2 - 7/10. Repetative rooms. Lack player impact on world or gripping plot. Bland graphics. Questionable ending.
ME3 - 6/10. Bad journal. Bad side quests. Dated graphics. Hashed up some loved characters. Terrible ending and final mission. Military strength tied to MP.

Modifié par Apathy1989, 27 avril 2012 - 12:03 .

[LucasShark]

It's not superman 64 unplayable bad, it is however a rare perfectly functional bad, generic if you will.

To compare it to ME2:
- The main plot missions were good, until the last one, which compared to the suicide mission is like comparing Michael Bay to Stanley Kubrick.
- The interface got worse as opposed to better
- It flagrently ignored entire chunks of established knowledge
- the side quests are incredibly lazy
- A remarkable number of bugs making it into a final product
- Many many examples of design lazyness, ie: Tali's face, war asset system
- Not the game we were all promissed

I just pine for the times when a sequel having MORE and BETTER elements than its predecessor was taken as a non-issue.

Modifié par LucasShark, 27 avril 2012 - 12:07 .

[Deathstroke123]

Hoid wrote...

No deathstroke because arguing to you is like arguing with a wall. You made up your mind I have made up mine.

Good counterpoint. Seriously, your words have convinced me how wrong I was.

Gawd, what was I POSSIBLY thinking?

[razor150]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

So where is similiar levels of rage over Call of Duty or Halo who hype there games up much further than ME and have far bigger fan bases?

This whole "people are disappointed because of hype" arguement is garbage, and is repeated by dittoheads for every franchise to put down those with legitimate gripes. No game that was hyped this much and was actually a great game has received this level of backlash. People will always be disappointed, but the Halo fans who were angry about the disappearance of the pistol in Halo 2 and it's bad ending are nothing in comparison to the people who hate the ending and think ME3 is a mediocre title. 

Modifié par razor150, 27 avril 2012 - 12:12 .

[KotorEffect3]

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

[bones mcmanus]

Theta Thetis wrote...

The game itself was magnificent, the ending... not so much...

QFT
I was looking forward to the next Mass Effect saga once I stepped into the citadel transport beam only to fall so hard on my keyboard face first =/

[ahandsomeshark]

I don't think anyone think it's a bad game. They think it's a game below expectations. That's different. If I go see a Martin Scorsese movie and come out of the theatre feeling like I watched a Michael Bay movie that's a problem. I went in expecting a Bioware game, I didn't feel like that's what I got.

[NS Wizdum]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

Were people wrong to assume that it would be at least as good as the first two?

[ahandsomeshark]

As far as games that met the hype

Mass Effect 2?
Every Rockstar game IMO

[ahandsomeshark]

I assumed it would be as good as every Bioware game I've played (which is all of them except DA:2 since KOTOR). In my opinion it wasn't. I don't see how it's hard to understand the difference between thinking a game is bad, and thinking a game was not as good as it could or should have been.

[KingKhan03]

It was a good game it's not like it was crap, But there have been better games.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 27 avril 2012 - 12:18 .

[scrapmetals]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

Yes I am! Anything else?

[Muhkida]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

[GreyLycanTrope]

The game had it's flaws but I would say my overall experience was positive, and I still think it's a good game despite the cutting down of the side-quests and dialogue options. I still say it's a good game the story falls apart hard at the end though.

[nuculerman]

Deathstroke123 
Seems to me you shot yourself in the foot with this statement.

Things said unofficially by Bioware employees about the game months before it went gold = Hype.

Thank you for proving my point.

Remember that when I sell you a product that I claim cures headaches but when you use it you find out it just burns your tongue and gives you diarrhea.  And I charged you $60 for it.

[Deathstroke123]

razor150 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

So where is similiar levels of rage over Call of Duty or Halo who hype there games up much further than ME and have far bigger fan bases?

This whole "people are disappointed because of hype" arguement is garbage, and is repeated by dittoheads for every franchise to put down those with legitimate gripes. No game that was hyped this much and was actually a great game has received this level of backlash. People will always be disappointed, but the Halo fans who were angry about the disappearance of the pistol in Halo 2 and it's bad ending are nothing in comparison to the people who hate the ending and think ME3 is a mediocre title. 

I don't know what makes you think the Halo series is a good comparison. When was the last time you saw a Cortana romance fan thread with over 2K pages of people talking about how awesome the character is? The point is that there are people out there, much like the fans who peruse these forums around the clock, who have invested ALOT both emotionally and time-wise into this series, of their own volition. These people are the kind who get involved in the hype, and unfortunately, they make up the majority of these boards, creating an echo chamber where unpopular opinions are taboo.

You want a good comparison for this 'community'? Browse the WoW forums. There are people there who have spent years of their life playing a fictional character in that game, and as such lash out from any little change that they don't like. Irrationality. It's something the 2 sites have in common.

[KingKhan03]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

razor150 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

So where is similiar levels of rage over Call of Duty or Halo who hype there games up much further than ME and have far bigger fan bases?

This whole "people are disappointed because of hype" arguement is garbage, and is repeated by dittoheads for every franchise to put down those with legitimate gripes. No game that was hyped this much and was actually a great game has received this level of backlash. People will always be disappointed, but the Halo fans who were angry about the disappearance of the pistol in Halo 2 and it's bad ending are nothing in comparison to the people who hate the ending and think ME3 is a mediocre title. 

I don't know what makes you think the Halo series is a good comparison. When was the last time you saw a Cortana romance fan thread with over 2K pages of people talking about how awesome the character is? The point is that there are people out there, much like the fans who peruse these forums around the clock, who have invested ALOT both emotionally and time-wise into this series, of their own volition. These people are the kind who get involved in the hype, and unfortunately, they make up the majority of these boards, creating an echo chamber where unpopular opinions are taboo.

You want a good comparison for this 'community'? Browse the WoW forums. There are people there who have spent years of their life playing a fictional character in that game, and as such lash out from any little change that they don't like. Irrationality. It's something the 2 sites have in common.

They advertised the game and they didn't deliver...what's the problem am I missing something?

Also you are acting like we shouldn't believe anything in advertisements ever.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 27 avril 2012 - 12:24 .

[Deathstroke123]

nuculerman wrote...

Deathstroke123 
Seems to me you shot yourself in the foot with this statement.

Things said unofficially by Bioware employees about the game months before it went gold = Hype.

Thank you for proving my point.

Remember that when I sell you a product that I claim cures headaches but when you use it you find out it just burns your tongue and gives you diarrhea.  And I charged you $60 for it.

Because this example isn't full of hyperbole at all.

And honestly, if I was stupid enough to not do my research to the point where I thought a bag of crap was the same as medicine, I'd only have myself to blame. Buyer beware, my friend. No one is gonna coddle you.

[KingKhan03]

Double post.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 27 avril 2012 - 12:23 .