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[razor150]

I would say anybody who call ME3 anything other than a mediocre title to be the ones who got caught up to much in the hype. They became to invested in the hype and thinking it will be the best game ever that can't see the crap that was handed tp them. They are the ones who lost all objectivity not the ones calling a spade a spade.

For the record my "hype" for ME3 was tempered by DA2 which was a bad game. I came into MA3 wanting to like it, and I do to a point, but isn't great and can barely be called good. Tuchanca and Rannoch really saved this game from the dustbin of history.

[KotorEffect3]

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

[my Aim is True]

First of all you used the wrong form of to, it should be 'too'

Secondly, it is a mediocre game. Rannoch was great and so was Tuchanka. I enjoyed the Cerberus secret base too.
But Mars was only decent, Cerberus invasion of Citadel was nothing special, and Thessia was a disappointment. So was Palaven since we didn't actually get to step foot on the planet, just its boring moon, and the Miracle of Palaven was won via Codex entry.
Fetch quests for war bibles was lame, Escape From Earth was poorly written and Priority:Earth was horrible.
So in all the middle was awesome but the beginning sucked, the ending sucked, the sidequests sucked, and multiplayer is just a shallow attempt to make us pay for in game items.

[KingKhan03]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

Because the final mission had so much variety, just sayin:whistle:

Don't get me wrong the game was fun but it wasn't flawless.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 27 avril 2012 - 12:27 .

[Deathstroke123]

NS Wizdum wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

Were people wrong to assume that it would be at least as good as the first two?

To many people, it IS just as good, if not SUPERIOR to the first two. Your opinion is not the only one, and Bioware doesn't need to break it's back appealing to every little demand the fan base makes in an attempt to make everyone happen, because that's impossible.

And you people wonder why journalists were calling you whiny and entitled. My God.

[Cobra's_back]

RevenantWolf wrote...

Main storyline minus ending- 10/10
Side missions- 5/10
scanning fetch quests- 2/10
War asset system- 1/10
Ending- 0/10

conclusion- bad game

I agree .

[ShepnTali]

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

They were. Which is why my final ems wasn't impressive at mid 2000's. I just wanted to get on with the show. They became tedious, didn't keep track of what I gathered for who after awhile, and one or two of them glitched out and didn't register. 

It became work, and not fun work.

Modifié par ShepnTali, 27 avril 2012 - 12:28 .

[KotorEffect3]

razor150 wrote...

I would say anybody who call ME3 anything other than a mediocre title to be the ones who got caught up to much in the hype. They became to invested in the hype and thinking it will be the best game ever that can't see the crap that was handed tp them. They are the ones who lost all objectivity not the ones calling a spade a spade.

For the record my "hype" for ME3 was tempered by DA2 which was a bad game. I came into MA3 wanting to like it, and I do to a point, but isn't great and can barely be called good. Tuchanca and Rannoch really saved this game from the dustbin of history.

So now anyone that doesn't agree with doesn't have perspective.  What contradicting statement.

[KingKhan03]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

razor150 wrote...

I would say anybody who call ME3 anything other than a mediocre title to be the ones who got caught up to much in the hype. They became to invested in the hype and thinking it will be the best game ever that can't see the crap that was handed tp them. They are the ones who lost all objectivity not the ones calling a spade a spade.

For the record my "hype" for ME3 was tempered by DA2 which was a bad game. I came into MA3 wanting to like it, and I do to a point, but isn't great and can barely be called good. Tuchanca and Rannoch really saved this game from the dustbin of history.

So now anyone that doesn't agree with doesn't have perspective.  What contradicting statement.

And anybody who criticizes the game becoms an entitled whiner and not a true fan.

Yup seems about right.

[Velocithon]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

razor150 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

So where is similiar levels of rage over Call of Duty or Halo who hype there games up much further than ME and have far bigger fan bases?

This whole "people are disappointed because of hype" arguement is garbage, and is repeated by dittoheads for every franchise to put down those with legitimate gripes. No game that was hyped this much and was actually a great game has received this level of backlash. People will always be disappointed, but the Halo fans who were angry about the disappearance of the pistol in Halo 2 and it's bad ending are nothing in comparison to the people who hate the ending and think ME3 is a mediocre title. 

I don't know what makes you think the Halo series is a good comparison. When was the last time you saw a Cortana romance fan thread with over 2K pages of people talking about how awesome the character is? The point is that there are people out there, much like the fans who peruse these forums around the clock, who have invested ALOT both emotionally and time-wise into this series, of their own volition. These people are the kind who get involved in the hype, and unfortunately, they make up the majority of these boards, creating an echo chamber where unpopular opinions are taboo.

Clearly you've never been to the Bungie.net forums. People used to rave over Cortana all the time. However it's died down since she's you know, over 10 years old...

You have no idea what hype is. People who spend time here and invest a lot of time in the game has nothing to do with hype. They simply like playing and discussing the game. Those are the people here right now voicing their dissappointment and lobbying for changes. As far as unpopular opinions being taboo, well, duh? I mean, you said it yourself, the vast majority on these boards are those who've invested a lot of time in the series. Naturally, they are the ones who really dislike what we got.

You have to stop thinking this is all because of hype, because it's not. It has to do with the theme of game, the direction it was taking, and how the ending just betrayed all of that. In addition, numerous parts within the game were poorly done and rendered many past, meaningful experiences with consequences entirely moot. THAT, not hype, is why people are mad.

[KotorEffect3]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

NS Wizdum wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

People's reaction to the game all comes down to one thing, and that's how much they allowed themselves to get hyped for it. Too many people picked it up expecting it to be the messiah of video game storytelling, to usher us to a promised land of milk and honey. Inevitably, these people will be disappointed, and this pattern will continue for the next big title game. (See: SWTOR and Guild Wars 2 <- calling this one.)

I'm just as big a fan as anybody else of the series, but my expectations were more realistic. As such, the game delivers.

Moral of the story: Stop getting caught up in the hype machine.

Were people wrong to assume that it would be at least as good as the first two?

To many people, it IS just as good, if not SUPERIOR to the first two. Your opinion is not the only one, and Bioware doesn't need to break it's back appealing to every little demand the fan base makes in an attempt to make everyone happen, because that's impossible.

And you people wonder why journalists were calling you whiny and entitled. My God.

So true,  I would rank ME 3 and ME 2 as being equals.  Both blow ME 1 out of the water (yeah I said that).  And yeah the fanbase has lost perspective and is completely off of it's nut.  They will whine over the most insignificant thing.  I am suprised nobody has whined about the fish tank on the normandy or something else that trivial.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 27 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[ScotGaymer]

I wouldn't say it is a bad game.

I would definately say with the horrific ending that it is a mediocre game. 6/10 overall.

[ahandsomeshark]

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

[KotorEffect3]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

[Muhkida]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

Are you saying you don't do the sidequests?  Who does that?  YOU'RE NOT REAL!

[ahandsomeshark]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

what exactly do you consider small things?

[KingKhan03]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

But they aren't really insignificant things, in this case they are complaining about some of the game mechanics including the journal system and the side quest system.

Is it not ok to criticize the way something is implemented? The journal system is not good and people are expressing that I don't understand what the problem is.

Modifié par KingKhan03, 27 avril 2012 - 12:34 .

[scrapmetals]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

Which is already what I said I am in my signature. Do you have anything better to call us?

[ahandsomeshark]

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

Are you saying you don't do the sidequests?  Who does that?  YOU'RE NOT REAL!

The problem is they were bad sidequests. It's an rpg, sidequests are a staple of the genre. The problem was these sidequests were crappy.

[KotorEffect3]

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

Are you saying you don't do the sidequests?  Who does that?  YOU'RE NOT REAL!

I do sidequests but I don't do every little one.  I do the ones I feel like doing.   Besides not all sidequests are the same.

[KotorEffect3]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

scrapmetals wrote...

The game was decent, except for all those glitches. And the journal. And the lack of side quests. And squad development. And choices. And dialogue. And the ending.

Oh.

You are a nitpicker

You have to admit, those Citadel side-quests were fricken tedious.  Running into the wrong NPC to end one of them got real old.  Those damn asari all looked the same...

inb4thatsracist

Key word being sidequest, didn't have to do them. 

Are you saying you don't do the sidequests?  Who does that?  YOU'RE NOT REAL!

The problem is they were bad sidequests. It's an rpg, sidequests are a staple of the genre. The problem was these sidequests were crappy.

Grissom academy was considered a sidequest are you calling that crappy?

[Velocithon]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

So you'd rather people not "complain" about small imperfections then, and then see these imperfections repeated in future games?

Nitpicking is a good thing. For instance, the journal. Not at all game breaking, but a bit frustrating at times. I "complain" (your words) about it because I think it's something that could be improved. I doubt it will, but I'll voice my opinion in hopes that it gets recognized and that future games will correct it.

So try being less of a troll and calling people whining entitled brats next time, okay.

[Xx_Belzak_xX]

The game itself was great, but the ending was a travesty. Casey Hudson should be ashamed. I cannot fathom how he could POSSIBLY think that ending was even REMOTELY good. >_>

[KotorEffect3]

Velocithon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

I don't understand this you are a nitpicker argument. If I pay 60 (or in this case 80) bucks for something damn right I'm gonna nitpick. Wtf is this kindergarten should I give Bioware a gold star for trying?

Nitipickers are spoiled little brats with entitlement issues that will complain about the most insignificant and trivial thing.

So you'd rather people not "complain" about small imperfections then, and then see these imperfections repeated in future games?

Nitpicking is a good thing. For instance, the journal. Not at all game breaking, but a bit frustrating at times. I "complain" (your words) about it because I think it's something that could be improved. I doubt it will, but I'll voice my opinion in hopes that it gets recognized and that future games will correct it.

So try being less of a troll and calling people whining entitled brats next time, okay.

Complaining also leads to good things being cut because people that like something won't speak up about what they like because they just focus on the negative.  Harbinger would have had a bigger and better role in ME 3 if people hadn't whined about his taunts so much in ME 2.  We Harbi fans didn't speak up enough on his behalf.  Negativity is overrated and positivity is too often ignored. 

[Baa Baa]

If you take away the ending, it's an incredible game, one of the best. If you leave it as is, it is broken, it is incredible until the ending and then all the time seems wasted.