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[Muhkida]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

@ deathstroke. I give up You're just an idiot.

It doesn't matter what someone SAYS versus officially writes down. They are both held accountable for what they say. And sure, it's subject to change. But not TWO months before release when the game nearly gold.

You call me gullible? Seriously, try using your brain. The entire series suggested many things would happen in ME3. Forget the fact the devs said those things would happen; the game heavily suggested it would happen all by itself. And a lot of it didn't. Don't call me gullible for thinking a game would continue it's path.

And yeah. Silly me for thinking Bioware should do the right thing and admit their faults. "They're a business and business's don't do that". No...bad business's do that.

So good night, troll. Have fun not trusting or believing anything in your life.

You called him names and then you accused him of trolling?  Hypocritical much?

trolling =/= calling ppl names...

trolling is namecalling

Not sure if serious.......or trolling.

So you think namcalling is all fine and dandy if it suits your purposes then.

Point, missed it.

Oh crap, I'm wrong.  So I'll try to bail myself out of this and call you a nitpicker

Fixed

[NickelToe]

We should shut up anyone who speaks out against a company or their product. We should shut up anyone who does not fall in line.  Shut up paying customers for feeling lied to when they are lied to.

Game was less than underwhelming. The Producers Flat out Lied about what to expect, flat. This is not something in a gray area unless you like made-for-tv dramas about court battles. Look anywhere people took the time to analyze Bioware's promises vs its delivery since Dragon Age Origins (which in my opinion is even bigger let down than ME3.) Take a second and remember no matter how much you worship them they do not grant boons of gold on their loyal fans. They do not even use your nonsensical, defensive and abusive posts in their defense. They use their budy-review sites.

So while people may be too negative at times, they are more justified speaking out against the company which sold them a bill of goods on flat out lies or reputation only. The spent the rep like it was currency, it is gone for a lot of people.

You people defending them however are the irrational ones. You defend a business over fellow consumers. Even if you thought the game was the 2nd coming, you are defending a company who cares nothing about you, they do not even care to respond saying you are right and all the fans who they let down are wrong. On top of that you regurgitate the insults gaming review sites shout at us, you yourself insult paying consumers for not falling in line no matter what they put out. You people are the unreasonable ones, not budging no matter what on what companies and governments do. There is a perfect society for your loyalty to live in, go to North Korea, they will reward your loyalty with more control and lies.

Modifié par NickelToe, 27 avril 2012 - 01:08 .

[KotorEffect3]

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Muhkida wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

@ deathstroke. I give up You're just an idiot.

It doesn't matter what someone SAYS versus officially writes down. They are both held accountable for what they say. And sure, it's subject to change. But not TWO months before release when the game nearly gold.

You call me gullible? Seriously, try using your brain. The entire series suggested many things would happen in ME3. Forget the fact the devs said those things would happen; the game heavily suggested it would happen all by itself. And a lot of it didn't. Don't call me gullible for thinking a game would continue it's path.

And yeah. Silly me for thinking Bioware should do the right thing and admit their faults. "They're a business and business's don't do that". No...bad business's do that.

So good night, troll. Have fun not trusting or believing anything in your life.

You called him names and then you accused him of trolling?  Hypocritical much?

trolling =/= calling ppl names...

trolling is namecalling

Not sure if serious.......or trolling.

So you think namcalling is all fine and dandy if it suits your purposes then.

Point, missed it.

Oh crap, I'm wrong.  So I'll try to bail myself out of this and call you a nitpicker

Fixed

fixing is lame and is the mark of a troll.

[FatalX7.0]

shurikenmanta wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

By and large it was a pretty good game. I do feel a lot of the cries of 'it's horrible' are fueled by disappointment in the ending being projected onto other aspects of the game. That and as somebody said, people were expecting this to be the gaming equivalent of the Return of Jesus.

I was only expecting it to be Mass Effect.

But it's not.

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying it's not just an expansion of the first ME game? Neither was ME2. Or are you saying it is not a part of the series at all? Cause it kinda is...

You're looking at it too literally.

[Muhkida]

Oh so you do realize that trolling =/= namecalling.

Yet you argue otherwise, the irony.

[FatalX7.0]

You're both dumb and should hit yourselves in the face. Stop it with the damn quotes.

[KotorEffect3]

Muhkida wrote...

Oh so you do realize that trolling =/= namecalling.

Yet you argue otherwise, the irony.

Go to hell, you people are like arguing with a wall and yet the wall is still more reasonable

[Deathstroke123]

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

[MegaSovereign]

I enjoyed Mass Effect 3.

It's not without flaws, but neither was the previous games.

[KingKhan03]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

Are you not doing the same thing? when someone called the game mediocre on the first page you basically called him a fool.

I'm all for outside opinions you could like the ending for all I care but don't call other people fools and tell them they are wrong if they dont.

[KotorEffect3]

NickelToe wrote...

We should shut up anyone who speaks out against a company or their product. We should shut up anyone who does not fall in line.  Shut up paying customers for feeling lied to when they are lied to.

Game was less than underwhelming. The Producers Flat out Lied about what to expect, flat. This is not something in a gray area unless you like made-for-tv dramas about court battles. Look anywhere people took the time to analyze Bioware's promises vs its delivery since Dragon Age Origins (which in my opinion is even bigger let down than ME3.) Take a second and remember no matter how much you worship them they do not grant boons of gold on their loyal fans. They do not even use your nonsensical, defensive and abusive posts in their defense. They use their budy-review sites.

So while people may be too negative at times, they are more justified speaking out against the company which sold them a bill of goods on flat out lies or reputation only. The spent the rep like it was currency, it is gone for a lot of people.

You people defending them however are the irrational ones. You defend a business over fellow consumers. Even if you thought the game was the 2nd coming, you are defending a company who cares nothing about you, they do not even care to respond saying you are right and all the fans who they let down are wrong. On top of that you regurgitate the insults gaming review sites shout at us, you yourself insult paying consumers for not falling in line no matter what they put out. You people are the unreasonable ones, not budging no matter what on what companies and governments do. There is a perfect society for your loyalty to live in, go to North Korea, they will reward your loyalty with more control and lies.

Just because I bought the game and you bought the game doesn't mean I have to automaticaly side with you.  You bring up a society like North Korea yet you are trying to do the same thing just the other way around.  Last I checked I can still choose whatever side I want to and it doesn't have to be with you.

[Muhkida]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

You're both dumb and should hit yourselves in the face. Stop it with the damn quotes.

Yeah I know, I just like point out something wrong when I see it.  I don't expect people to take things to the heart (or make it serious no matter how small it is), sometimes I forget to apply that to my mindset

[razor150]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

razor150 wrote...

I would say anybody who call ME3 anything other than a mediocre title to be the ones who got caught up to much in the hype. They became to invested in the hype and thinking it will be the best game ever that can't see the crap that was handed tp them. They are the ones who lost all objectivity not the ones calling a spade a spade.

For the record my "hype" for ME3 was tempered by DA2 which was a bad game. I came into MA3 wanting to like it, and I do to a point, but isn't great and can barely be called good. Tuchanca and Rannoch really saved this game from the dustbin of history.

So now anyone that doesn't agree with doesn't have perspective.  What contradicting statement.

If people want to use the idiotic arguement that people who are unhappy are only that because of hype sould have that arguement turned on them. Yes people can have there own opinion, I am tired of people saying that mine is invalid because people like me are just not smart enough to tell the difference between hype and reality. 

[FatalX7.0]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

Dialogue was fine?

I don't know about you, but I'm not fond of not being able to choose anything like I could over the last 5 years.

Just because you could "manage the objectives in your head", doesn't make it appropriate to strip the journal system.

And that's not a very accurate trend, as you could actually go down to the planets, explore, drive around and kill things. What do you do now? Fly around in an arcade game, press a button and scan stuff.

Fun.

Oh, the only trend I see here is Mass Effect becoming smaller and smaller.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 27 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[Ome6ablak]

THe game was great as far as gameplay goes. As far as the story, well thats where it falls apart. For a game that's supposed to be more story based than anything, there are just too many story mechanics that don't make any sense in the grand scheme of the entire series. Especially the ending. I don't think people think that the game is terrible, but when you read a great book only to find that the end is lackluster and full of plot holes it tarnishes the rest of what you read up to that point.

[Deathstroke123]

Double post, whoops

Modifié par Deathstroke123, 27 avril 2012 - 01:21 .

[nuculerman]

KotorEffect3 

Just because I bought the game and you bought the game doesn't mean I have to automaticaly side with you.  You bring up a society like North Korea yet you are trying to do the same thing just the other way around.  Last I checked I can still choose whatever side I want to and it doesn't have to be with you.

Maybe you missed the obvious hostility of the op and following responses but the point of this thread was not "I have a different opinion" it was "I have a different opinion and anyone who disagrees is a gullible idiot."

Havent read all your posts so I can't say if you've personally exercised the same tone.  But this thread is the definition of trolling.

[razor150]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

razor150 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

Hoid wrote...

It is a bad game, its not the worst thing ever. But it failed to meet the hyper and did not live up to its former glory. To me that makes it a bad game and it makes Bioware a bad game developer.

Name one game with a massive ad campaign to pull gullible chumps into praising the game prerelease that actually met the hype.

Not a one. I don't care if Final Fantasy 55 is the greatest thing mankind ever produced and it also gives you BJ's and pudding, there will still be a legion of miserable people online who will rage for years about how it didn't meet the hype. Gamers are an obnoxiously insatiable bunch, that's a fact of life as far as I'm concerned.

So where is similiar levels of rage over Call of Duty or Halo who hype there games up much further than ME and have far bigger fan bases?

This whole "people are disappointed because of hype" arguement is garbage, and is repeated by dittoheads for every franchise to put down those with legitimate gripes. No game that was hyped this much and was actually a great game has received this level of backlash. People will always be disappointed, but the Halo fans who were angry about the disappearance of the pistol in Halo 2 and it's bad ending are nothing in comparison to the people who hate the ending and think ME3 is a mediocre title. 

I don't know what makes you think the Halo series is a good comparison. When was the last time you saw a Cortana romance fan thread with over 2K pages of people talking about how awesome the character is? The point is that there are people out there, much like the fans who peruse these forums around the clock, who have invested ALOT both emotionally and time-wise into this series, of their own volition. These people are the kind who get involved in the hype, and unfortunately, they make up the majority of these boards, creating an echo chamber where unpopular opinions are taboo.

You want a good comparison for this 'community'? Browse the WoW forums. There are people there who have spent years of their life playing a fictional character in that game, and as such lash out from any little change that they don't like. Irrationality. It's something the 2 sites have in common.

Are you serious? You're saying people don't get as emotionally invested in Halo as Mass Effect? Do you really want to hang your hat on that? People only spend thousands of hours playing it, and people continue play it years after it was released but they have no emotional investment? Plus you are claiming hype is why people are unhappy, and no other game hypes itself up like Halo yet it never get anywhere near the backlash. Are people unhappy? Yep, that is unavoidable, but there has never been a campaign for changes like there has been like ME3 for any game.

You say my comparison is bad then bring up WoW? The WoW forums where are people complain about nerfs to their class, and buffs to other, and saying their class needs more buffs while this other class needs nerfed. If my comparison was bad your's is worse.

Modifié par razor150, 27 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Deathstroke123]

KingKhan03 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

Are you not doing the same thing? when someone called the game mediocre on the first page you basically called him a fool.

I'm all for outside opinions you could like the ending for all I care but don't call other people fools and tell them they are wrong if they dont.

The word fool or any sort of insult was not in what I said at all. Are your eyes working alright? Legit question.

I asked the guy what games he thought was so good comparitively to call this one mediocre. This too is a legitimate question, I was genuinely curious.

I get snide responses from others, and in response, I post my own opinions on the games listed. Foolish me, one the games I critiqued was ME1, the nostalgic 'can-do-no-wrong' lovechild of this forum. All responses following are in response to people basically saying 'What? You prefered the 3rd game to the 1st? Plebian.'

The immaturity on display here is honestly staggering.

[ahandsomeshark]

Good lord, lemon.

[KingKhan03]

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

Are you not doing the same thing? when someone called the game mediocre on the first page you basically called him a fool.

I'm all for outside opinions you could like the ending for all I care but don't call other people fools and tell them they are wrong if they dont.

The word fool or any sort of insult was not in what I said at all. Are your eyes working alright? Legit question.

I asked the guy what games he thought was so good comparitively to call this one mediocre. This too is a legitimate question, I was genuinely curious.

I get snide responses from others, and in response, I post my own opinions on the games listed. Foolish me, one the games I critiqued was ME1, the nostalgic 'can-do-no-wrong' lovechild of this forum. All responses following are in response to people basically saying 'What? You prefered the 3rd game to the 1st? Plebian.'

The immaturity on display here is honestly staggering.

But when people criticize ME3 the criticisms are invalid? People didn't think the game lived up to expectations it's an opinion they are not wrong for thinking so, The complaints are valid.

Also I apologize if I read your first post wrong but don't claim that your opinion is dismissedwhile you try to convince others that theirs is invalid.

[sliverofamoon]

Armass81 wrote...

Let me remind you. A bad game is something like Mindjack, Superman 64 or Daikatana. ME3 cant be called a bad game by any stretch of an imagination, it is actually pretty decent. Sure it has its problems and isnt polished and there is alot of a wasted potential, but dont you dare call it a bad game. It doesnt deserve it. Neither does DA2. Dont get too zealous people in throwing labels like this around.

Devs did a decent job with the game, they could have done better yes, but still they deserve our thanks for their efforts. So thank you Bioware for ME3, on behalf of myself at least.

I agree completely. I have no problems at all with the game, all the way through UNTIL the point that Shep. is lifted up to the Starchild. I loved the stories. The missions were a blast. The gameplay was VERY fun. The multiplayer is something I look forward to playing every day... still... and I've been playing the MP since the second day of release.

I just won't replay the SP again. If I do, I'll just play until the last scene with Anderson, and esc. key out at that point. I can't sit through that again.

Edit: And I don't see myself purchasing any DLC, unless it directly relates to the MP side.

Modifié par sliverofamoon, 27 avril 2012 - 01:33 .

[The_Other_M]

It's not a bad game, it's a "passable" game, some may say decent, a 6/10 IMO.
But it's pretty damn far from perfect.

[Deathstroke123]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Indeed. I absolutely love how my Shepard is obsessed with a child and a planet that he never lived on.

I love how 95% of the exploration has been taken away from the previous games.

I love how Shepard says everything without any input from me. I love how disconnected I am from the character that I created.

I love how there are 31 fetch quests on the Citadel, with dialogue that you don't even get to participate in.

I love how there is auto-dialogue everywhere, and Zaeed/Kasumi style dialogue like the fetch quests. Disconnections are great, aren't they?

I love how I can't customize armor for my squad anymore.

I love how it's trying to compete with Gears of War and Call of Duty like Battlefield 3 did.

I love how Tali is a photoshop of some random woman.

I love how the ending is a rip off of Deus Ex.

I love how small and linear Mass Effect has become. It's so condensed, it's amazing!


Such a great game, this is exactly what I thought I was going to buy when I saw the name "Mass Effect".

1.While the child stuff was indeed hamfisted, you honestly expect Shepard to feel nothing for his species homeworld being exterminated? Seriously? By this logic, why does Tali care about Rannoc? Not like she's ever lived there. 

2. I assume the exploration you're refering to is the mako driving through empty, barren, brown or green landscapes that don't even have as much as a single tree or bush. It was a waste of disk space and getting rid of it allowed for more important things.

3. The hyperbole on the next point doesn't help your case. The autodialogue was most often used in situations where the inflection/personality of your shep didn't matter, like asking a nessasary question. Or would you rather have the ME1-2 system where they give you the same response disguised as different text choices? Would that make you feel comfortable?

4. Citadel fetch quest dialogue centered usually around 2 or more people having a discussion about the news. Shepard doesn't need to add his opinion to every talking couple he runs across. The arguments where shep could intervene and support a side made up for that in my mind.

5. You already mentioned the autodialogue. Your arguments are starting to blend together incongruently. And about Zaeed and Kasumi... dude, they were DLC. What made you think they would be given major plot points? This just goes back to my hype argument, perception vs. reality. Give it a read, sweetheart.

6. Honestly, I'd rather have the well made preset armors for my crewmates then the hastily thrown together jumpsuits from ME1, which looked like someone made them out of Play-doh.

7. If it were trying to compete with GoW, they would have just scrapped the story and focused fully on combat, or they wouldn't have scrapped that first person ME game they had planned a while back.

8. The team wanted a photograph of a woman in real life to represent her. You think they weren't going to photoshop it? You think they would just leave it alone, perfectly human? Get real, please. And don't say 'herp derp it's a stock photo though', because the source of a photo has nothing to do with how good it is, I've seen plenty of stock photos that look better then the gallery art crap you usually see.

9. The ending is based on themes that existed long before Deus Ex. Try again.

10. Condensed is preferable to 'spread out to the point of emptiness', which is the feeling I got on the citadel in ME1. A whole lot of unused, useless room.

There. Your nitpicks addressed. Don't know why I bothered though, as I recall you being one of the most unreasonable people around here, and that's saying alot. Let's see if you can respond without calling me a troll, hmm?

[Deathstroke123]

KingKhan03 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

Deathstroke123 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

So let me get this straight, If you criticize something in the game that means you're the scum of the earth?

lol whut?

Yes, that's right.

Apparently ME3 is perfect and has no flaws whatsoever.

The journal was perfect
The sidequests were perfect
Dialogue was perfect
Ending was perfect

THE GAME IS PERFECT!!!





Nope.

Neither me nor anyone else here has called the game perfect. It's far from it.

The ending is undeniably bad, which is why I'm glad Bioware is acting on it.

Dialogue was fine, if not much more emotional this time out.

The journal was simply inconvinient. It didn't update, but I never needed it to. I could manage the objectives in my head. It wasn't that hard at all.

ME has always had time consuming side tasks to artificially extend playtime. In the first game, it was the copy-paste missions/planets (boring), in ME2 it was planet scanning (boring), and in ME3, it was the eavesdrop quests (boring. See the trend here?) If you're charging the big sidequests of being boring, like Grissom, Arlakh Company and the monestary, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. All of them individually were more compelling then anything I did in ME1, excluding Ilos.

Really, your statement here just shows how you refuse to acknowledge an outside opinion. But that's par for the course on the BSN, so whatever.

Are you not doing the same thing? when someone called the game mediocre on the first page you basically called him a fool.

I'm all for outside opinions you could like the ending for all I care but don't call other people fools and tell them they are wrong if they dont.

The word fool or any sort of insult was not in what I said at all. Are your eyes working alright? Legit question.

I asked the guy what games he thought was so good comparitively to call this one mediocre. This too is a legitimate question, I was genuinely curious.

I get snide responses from others, and in response, I post my own opinions on the games listed. Foolish me, one the games I critiqued was ME1, the nostalgic 'can-do-no-wrong' lovechild of this forum. All responses following are in response to people basically saying 'What? You prefered the 3rd game to the 1st? Plebian.'

The immaturity on display here is honestly staggering.

But when people criticize ME3 the criticisms are invalid? People didn't think the game lived up to expectations it's an opinion they are not wrong for thinking so, The complaints are valid.

Also I apologize if I read your first post wrong but don't claim that your opinion is dismissedwhile you try to convince others that theirs is invalid.

Not invalid, but blown entirely out of proportion. If you have a complaint about the end, or the combat, or any other important aspect of the game, fine. I may feel differently, but fine. Once you start citeing the slightly inconvienient journal or the increased autodialogue (or rather same dialogue you would've got, just without you pushing a button first) as major points against the game, that's when criticizism becomes needless nitpicking. Tell me true, were you sitting there, playing the game and thinking 'God, I wish the journal was better' and that was all you could think about? Did it somehow disturb you that much? Because reading the complaints, that's the impression I get from people.