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the AVENGER IS THE BEST ACTTION MOVIE I have seen in a long time.

ACTION FROM START TO FINISH!!!

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Soverain wrote...

the AVENGER IS THE BEST ACTTION MOVIE I have seen in a long time.

ACTION FROM START TO FINISH!!!

And it isn't brain dead either.  The story might not be the most deep or original, but it's character based.  and not pretentious like a Micheal Bay film.

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well deserved imo

they already made 400 million

Avengers on track to pull in 85-90 million in North America for week #2, with some estimates at or over 100 million. Either way it easily breaks the record of 75 million.

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I saw it yesterday afternoon. It was an excellent movie and I'm glad I forked out to go see it. For me Hulk and Loki were the stars of the show although I did find the final battle a tiny bit disapointing, I dunno I just expected more...Hulk. It must be awkward though producing enemies that Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye can fight, yet Thor, Hulk and Iron Man can't take out in seconds, it seems like a difficult balance.

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Might be going to see it again with my sister after she gets off work.
I'm actually buzzing with excitement just thinking about it. This movie is that good!

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Druss99 wrote...

I saw it yesterday afternoon. It was an excellent movie and I'm glad I forked out to go see it. For me Hulk and Loki were the stars of the show although I did find the final battle a tiny bit disapointing, I dunno I just expected more...Hulk. It must be awkward though producing enemies that Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye can fight, yet Thor, Hulk and Iron Man can't take out in seconds, it seems like a difficult balance.

Iron Man's actually rather easy.  Find a way to disable the suit, keep it away from him, and he's the most helpless in a straight up fight. 

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Blastback wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

I saw it yesterday afternoon. It was an excellent movie and I'm glad I forked out to go see it. For me Hulk and Loki were the stars of the show although I did find the final battle a tiny bit disapointing, I dunno I just expected more...Hulk. It must be awkward though producing enemies that Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye can fight, yet Thor, Hulk and Iron Man can't take out in seconds, it seems like a difficult balance.

Iron Man's actually rather easy.  Find a way to disable the suit, keep it away from him, and he's the most helpless in a straight up fight. 


You have an easy way of doing that?

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I was extremely impressed with this movie - it's definitely the best Marvel movie I've ever seen. All of the Avengers are played to perfection by their respective actors and have excellent chemistry together (a monumental feat, indeed), and the script is spotless.

The movie is also riddled with of well-timed and perfectly delivered comedic bits, particularly from Iron Man (not that that was a surprise or anything - RDJ is the man). Hulk was also a major bad ass in this movie - I may end up listing "Puny god." as one of my favorite movie quotes of all-time. :P

I was also impressed with Tom Hiddleston's Loki this time around - I thought he was good in Thor, but Loki wasn't f***ing around in this movie. I found him quite intimidating at several points in the movie, in fact... well, at least until Hulk got a hold of him.

Speaking of Hulk (again), I think the scene where he transforms and goes after Black Widow is the only instance where I actually felt scared of Hulk, or a comic book character in general - it was a very well done, edge-of-your-seat scene.

Hell, all of the action scenes in this movie were epic. I loved Thor vs. Iron Man vs. Captain America, Black Widow vs. Hawkeye, and the entire final battle (especially Hulk vs. Loki).

Hey, did I mention how bad ass Hulk was in this movie? Because he was really bad ass, and stole just about every scene he was in - just wanted to make that point clear.

I'd say this movie is a 10/10, but I honestly think it goes to 11 - it is definitely Marvel's answer to The Dark Knight, and it's a damn good answer indeed. I can't wait for the sequel (do I sense an Infinity Gauntlet adaptation coming? Why yes, I do believe so).

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Pretty neat interview with joss here.  Talking about how he couldn't have a full male cast or how Tom as Loki is the key factor that made him realize this was going to work.


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Rockworm503 wrote...

Blastback wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

I saw it yesterday afternoon. It was an excellent movie and I'm glad I forked out to go see it. For me Hulk and Loki were the stars of the show although I did find the final battle a tiny bit disapointing, I dunno I just expected more...Hulk. It must be awkward though producing enemies that Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye can fight, yet Thor, Hulk and Iron Man can't take out in seconds, it seems like a difficult balance.

Iron Man's actually rather easy.  Find a way to disable the suit, keep it away from him, and he's the most helpless in a straight up fight. 


You have an easy way of doing that?

It's been done before.  Cap did it to Iron Man in Civil War.  And there are people smarter than Tony. 

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Not what I asked really. Did cap have it easy when he did it? Are people EASILY smarter than Tony?
Your whole thing sounds weird to me. Like of course there are people smarter than Tony but did they just walk up to him and turn off his suit? Because you said he's easy to take down. Yet if its so easy how come only smarter people than him have done it?

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Blastback wrote...

It's been done before.  Cap did it to Iron Man in Civil War.  And there are people smarter than Tony. 


No, a shield device did, then Vision did. 

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Iron Man once did it to himself; drained all the power from the suit in order to knock out the Hulk in one super punch. This caused some heart issues as I recall, and led to Rhodey taking a turn at the helm; literally.

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Not what I asked really. Did cap have it easy when he did it? Are people EASILY smarter than Tony?
Your whole thing sounds weird to me. Like of course there are people smarter than Tony but did they just walk up to him and turn off his suit? Because you said he's easy to take down. Yet if its so easy how come only smarter people than him have done it?

I mean easy for a writer to pull off if they need to.  Not easy in universe.

And I mean he's easy to take down in a stand up fight without his tech. 

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I loved the little comedy bits back and forth. I adored watching Thor fight Iron Man and then the Hulk later on. These kind of legendardy fight's you would only see in a typical movie like this. To the ending of the movie it was a little boring watching them fight the aliens.

Thor has a strong accent and speaks like a roman. He obviously shines in this movie sticking out, like Tony Stark who stuck out in a more moderm I'm a rich playboy with a heart of gold look at me. Captain America was kinda bland. You can tell he's a solider and using to having honor. The only time I really was interested when he was punching the punching bags.

Black Widow is amazing on the movie. She's sexy and fight's in a bad ass way.  The man who played the Hulk was eye opening at the start of movie when he pounded on the desk and she stuck that weapon that time. It was a good movie in a non chessy way.

It wasn't a we're honorable. More like trying to save the world and they united just for what. They are unbalanced on their own. Iron Man for example, a product of this. Untrusting and does what he want's. But togther it was a blast to watch.

I hope they make more movies like this. I was bored of seeing movies where you know exactly what's going to happen 45 minutes into it and it just reeks of a bad fast written script that the dirctor most likely wrote to get his girlfriend the leading role.

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Holy crap, Avengers broke 1 billion. Awesome.

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http://www.change.or...ption-community 


When the petition first came up, I fully expected it to be treated like the joke it is but it appears that many adopted children and adoptive parents are truly offended. Btw, the parent did understand the purpose of the joke is for Thor to distance himself from Loki. He was offended because the joke implied that a adopted sibling is not the same as a natural sibling. I'll not give the original thread in the Disney forums more attention by linking it but this is my favourite post: 

I understand that sometimes things need to be fought against to exact change in the world. This isn't one of those times. It is so much more important to fight these types of injustices in the real world against real people. Too much energy is being spent about a comic book movie supposedly sending a message when the real message should be, "sometimes people say things without thinking, but that doesn't mean anything and those words shouldn't hurt you. You are more than that."


I personally think that parents are overprotective of their children. You can shield your child from every kind of offensive material possible but at the playground, they can get called *beep*. The child needs to develop the required mental and emotional fortitude and learn how to appropriately deal/react to scenarios that are more hurtful and less preventable than a line spoken by a movie character that (even if it is objectively offensive - in this case it is not) is in no way reflective of the studio/director's true opinion.

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Torrible wrote...

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Wow that is just... I don't know


In your new movie, The Avengers, the character Black Widow says "He (Loki) killed 80 people in 2 days." Then the Thor character replies, "He's adopted."

Entirely cherrypicked and purpsofully taken out of context to the rest of that scene.


Update: Some people think this petition is calling for a boycott. It is NOT calling for a boycott. In fact, I saw the movie (and it is a good movie).  I am merely requesting an apology from Marvel and asking that they permanently stop using adoption as the punch line of a joke.

I can not think of any other time a Marvel product has used adoption as a joke.


Furthermore, you have to consider how children think. A child doesn't know the history of Thor and Loki. Plus, a child does not understand context the same way adults do. A child who is adopted only hears those lines above. So the child thinks to themselves, "I'm adopted. The bad guy was adopted too. Does that mean I am bad too?" One parent actually posted a comment along these lines on a certain forum, stating that their adopted child had actually made a very similar statement after seeing the movie. This statement is now posted under petition updates.

Its unfair to think so little of children. My 8 year godchild could take you thru the "lore" of Ash from the pokemon cartoon like a professor of history. My nephew who is only a year older knows the DC comics continuity better then I do. To the point he has corrected me.
No neither are adopted.
As for that parent whose child asked the question... ya children ask questions. I hope that parent explained and discussed the context of the scene with their child first before posting outrage on a forum.

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I think this quote from that very page pretty much denounces that whole thing.
Adopted people are calling this a joke.
Have a sense of humor!

"As an adoptee (now an adult) I would like to add my voice to this and say that you do not speak for me. You do not represent me, and I find this kind of evocation of nameless children for your own petty and bitter purposes to be vile exploitation.
I find this humorless attitude, which serves no purpose but to calm the egos of insecure people who have no concept of context, greatly offensive. Especially the person who equated the innocuous joke with being a black person stuck in the back of a bus, and battered women with no rights. That is far more disgusting than any imagined injustice you project onto such a harmless one-liner.
If you knew anything about Thor, Loki, and their family, you would know that Odin adopted Loki and raised him in a loving home, treating him as a son. Likewise, Thor loved him as a true brother. If fact, just before the line you all want to attack, Thor defended Loki from verbal attacks BECAUSE he is his brother. All these things have been portrayed on-screen in both Thor's solo movie and in The Avengers.
To give an example -- earlier in the movie there is quite a touching scene where Thor tries desperately to convince Loki that he was always loved by his adopted family. Sadly, Loki's mind is twisted by his evil heritage and his own lust for power.
To the comment that children have no sense of context and therefore cannot grasp the real joke in the dialogue, I say this: while it is true that many young children may not fully grasp the intended humor, it is not a parent's place to expect the moviemakers to teach their children these things. It is the parent's job, and the parent's job ALONE to talk to their child afterwards, in indeed there was confusion, and explain the situation to them. Educate your children so they can grow to deal with the world as mature adults; do not shield them from anything you deem offensive in your pitiable interpretations, lest they grow to become models of insecurity and knee-jerk radicals such as yourselves.
You give adopted people such as myself a bad name. You give us the character of being humorless, overly-sensitive, bitter, and petty. Again, YOU DO NOT REPRESENT ME."

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Maybe they shouldn't take their kid to a PG-13 movie. :ph34r:

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I saw the movie 3 times. Although the 1st didn't really count cuz I was 15 min late because the screening of the film on opening night actually caused a traffic jam. I had to find a seat in the 1st row in the corner and couldn't see anything with the way 3D are projected.

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vimeo.com/41930613

This is adorable!

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Shameless bump. Just saw it again for the 2nd time and I got to notice things I didn't the first time around.
1. I first thought that everyone got equal parts to the role but now that I think about it Captain America seems to get the short end of the stick. Sure he has some awesome moments and seeing him take charge is wonderful but it just seems like he didn't get as much as the others. Maybe I'm just imagining and wish he had more lol.
2. Black Widow is awesome and I respect Whedon's need to have a chick kick ass in everything he does but she seems almost like the star now that I think about it. We get more character devolopment with her than anyone else and it feels like we see her more than anyone else.

Just a couple of things that bothered me nothing major but I did have a fangasm when I found out that Alexis Denisof was the voice of the alien guy Loki talked to (anyone who doesn't know who that is he was Wesley on Angel one of my favorite characters.)

Over all I think I'm satisfied what money I have left is going to Dark Knight Rises and I can wait until the DVD/Blu-ray to see this again.

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Based on feedback from this thread and others, I went ahead and purchased and watched Capt America and Thor this past week; used my remaining gift cards to get 'em. And I am pleased to say that I enjoyed both films far more than expected, as they seemed to be better than the reviews seen, as well as more entertaining than IM2.

Now I am ready for this one to hit DVD latter this year!

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Elhanan wrote...

Based on feedback from this thread and others, I went ahead and purchased and watched Capt America and Thor this past week; used my remaining gift cards to get 'em. And I am pleased to say that I enjoyed both films far more than expected, as they seemed to be better than the reviews seen, as well as more entertaining than IM2.

Now I am ready for this one to hit DVD latter this year!


You don't believe in theaters or something?
Cause this is one you just have to see at least once.