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[Mildiner]

I hear that. I get pretty much all my games on Steam these days since the PC game shelf (singlular) of my local game stores has cobwebs on it.

[abaris]

BobSmith101 wrote...

The reason I quit PC gaming is there were not enough games worth getting. Shelling out 3k for something you only played 2 or 3 games a year on was a completely stupid to me.

Honestly, are you trying to troll or are you simply refusing to actually look at what a (very good) PC system really costs?

Mildiner wrote...

I hear that. I get pretty much all my
games on Steam these days since the PC game shelf (singlular) of my
local game stores has cobwebs on it.

That's a totally different matter alltogether. Online stores are popular these days, but it has nothing to do with PC or console.

Modifié par abaris, 27 avril 2012 - 05:51 .

[the almighty moo]

you're assuming they can make good pc games to begin with

[AkiKishi]

abaris wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

The reason I quit PC gaming is there were not enough games worth getting. Shelling out 3k for something you only played 2 or 3 games a year on was a completely stupid to me.

Honestly, are you trying to troll or are you simply refusing to actually look at what a (very good) PC system really costs?

No offence but the difference between your definition of good and mine are probably wildly different. Go check out the prices of some of the ninjatastic PCs then say I'm trolling.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 27 avril 2012 - 05:53 .

[The Razman]

Arsenic Touch wrote...

The Razman wrote...

There is a small problem with your hypothesis.

The Witcher 2 is terrible.

As if people didn't need any more proof that you're a troll. That is just hilarious.

Lol, what? Because I think The Witcher games are bad, I'm a troll?

[abaris]

the almighty moo wrote...

you're assuming they can make good pc games to begin with

What's the difference?

If you're not assuming we're talking about two different species when talking about PC or console users, the only difference is technological.

A good game should be a good game regardless of platform. I agree on one thing though. Good games are harder to find than they were a decade ago.

[Grimwick]

I would be outraged if they discriminated against consoles for no reason.

[The Razman]

BobSmith101 wrote...

abaris wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

The reason I quit PC gaming is there were not enough games worth getting. Shelling out 3k for something you only played 2 or 3 games a year on was a completely stupid to me.

Honestly, are you trying to troll or are you simply refusing to actually look at what a (very good) PC system really costs?

No offence but the difference between your definition of good and mine are probably wildly different. Go check out the prices of some of the ninjatastic PCs then say I'm trolling.

Honestly, he's not wrong ... the threshold at which point the law of diminishing returns kicks in for spending money on a self-built PC system is around £2,000, unless you're going for some kind of insane multi-screen setup.

But if you want to build a system that'll massively outperform a console, you don't even need a third of that to do it ... so choosing consoles for that reason seems a bit of an odd choice.

Modifié par The Razman, 27 avril 2012 - 05:56 .

[Zolt51]

PC exclusives will only ever make 1/5th the the money a 3-platform game will. At the very best.

So whatever else, you can expect a much less polished game experience. Even if it's Polish.
<tadum-dum>

I still love gaming on PC. I also love the fact that the money from console players helps pay to develop MY games! Win-win!

Modifié par Zolt51, 27 avril 2012 - 05:57 .

[AkiKishi]

Mildiner wrote...

I hear that. I get pretty much all my games on Steam these days since the PC game shelf (singlular) of my local game stores has cobwebs on it.

Well thats where most of the casuals do their shopping so you can see the problem with the idea of the PC being able to support itself in AAA titles under the current model.

DD in the future may change that, but consoles won't exactly stand still either and it's getting to the point where it comes down to pickiness rather than anything substantial.



Tech demo but well worth a look.

[abaris]

BobSmith101 wrote...

No offence but the difference between your definition of good and mine are probably wildly different. Go check out the prices of some of the ninjatastic PCs then say I'm trolling.

Yeah, but that's just like buying a Ferrari for driving to the mall. Of course you can always buy top of the line and over the top. It's certainly not the standard and it's most certainly not needed.

The only time I invested that kind of money was more than a decade ago for a rig I needed for my line of work. Hardware was more expensive then and my requirements were a lot higher than just needing it for playing a few games.

[the almighty moo]

abaris wrote...

the almighty moo wrote...

you're assuming they can make good pc games to begin with

What's the difference?

If you're not assuming we're talking about two different species when talking about PC or console users, the only difference is technological.

A good game should be a good game regardless of platform. I agree on one thing though. Good games are harder to find than they were a decade ago.

what i was trying to say was they can make a game pretty but if it's still crap, its still crap regardless of how it looks

[abaris]

the almighty moo wrote...

what i was trying to say was they can make a game pretty but if it's still crap, its still crap regardless of how it looks

On that we can agree.

[Akka le Vil]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nah this stuffs cyclic, as you near the end of a console generation this always happens. Once the new consoles hit the positions will reverse again.
Your talking about comparing machines which cost £300 to machines which cost £3000 (and need constant upgrading).

Stop buying gold-platted PC and wake up from your 10-years slumbers, and you'll find that things are rather different than your ridiculous statement.

A very good PC cost less than 1000€ and can last years without any upgrade.

[Abraham_uk]

Both consoles and PC's have both good exclusive games and bad exclusive games.

Both mainstream and niche games have both good and bad games.

It isn't the console or popularity (or lack of popularity) that determines how good a game is.

Am I missing something?

[The Razman]

Honestly, I bet I could build a PC for £500 which outperforms the current gen consoles. Price for performance is fantastic right now.

[AkiKishi]

Akka le Vil wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nah this stuffs cyclic, as you near the end of a console generation this always happens. Once the new consoles hit the positions will reverse again.
Your talking about comparing machines which cost £300 to machines which cost £3000 (and need constant upgrading).

Stop buying gold-platted PC and wake up from your 10-years slumbers, and you'll find that things are rather different than your ridiculous statement.

A very good PC cost less than 1000€ and can last years without any upgrade.

You are all missing the point. Prices may have dropped since I last built a PC but what sort of PC could you build for under £300 ? 

Casuals buy off the shelf, that is why they are casuals. They don't understand or care about specs they want to put the game in and play it not download drivers or fiddle with optimisation settings.

I left PC gaming because it was just not worth it anymore. Even £1000 is not worth the number of PC releases per year I'd be interested in.
The funny (not in the haha sense) thing is that you have killed your own market because of the very things you hold the PC dear for. Modding and customisation.

[AkiKishi]

The Razman wrote...

Honestly, I bet I could build a PC for £500 which outperforms the current gen consoles. Price for performance is fantastic right now.

Such a hard task to outperform 7 year old hardware...

[lillitheris]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nah this stuffs cyclic, as you near the end of a console generation this always happens. Once the new consoles hit the positions will reverse again.

It'll never reverse: the PC will always be equal or better. But, yes, the new generation will close the gap enough that games don't seem ridiculously hobbled because of console limitations.

[The Razman]

BobSmith101 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Honestly, I bet I could build a PC for £500 which outperforms the current gen consoles. Price for performance is fantastic right now.

Such a hard task to outperform 7 year old hardware...

I'm not quite seeing how the age of the hardware is relevent. It's the best Sony and Microsoft are offering, and at present it can be outperformed easily for not much extra money and tonnes of extra functionality by a PC.

You said that you use consoles now because good PCs cost £3,000 ... I'm just saying that point seems a little odd when you consider that you could build a PC that easily outperforms the consoles you've switched to for not much more than the price of the console itself?

[abaris]

The Razman wrote...

You said that you use consoles now because good PCs cost £3,000 ... I'm just saying that point seems a little odd when you consider that you could build a PC that easily outperforms the consoles you've switched to for not much more than the price of the console itself?

For less if you have any kind of rig at home.

[The Razman]

abaris wrote...

The Razman wrote...

You said that you use consoles now because good PCs cost £3,000 ... I'm just saying that point seems a little odd when you consider that you could build a PC that easily outperforms the consoles you've switched to for not much more than the price of the console itself?

For less if you have any kind of rig at home.

Clarify?

[ZackG312]

The Razman wrote...

There is a small problem with your hypothesis.

The Witcher 2 is terrible.

hahaha you are a troll

[ZackG312]

Emzamination wrote...

xkg wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

xkg wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

xkg wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

No, xbox is the only way to go, that is all.

You forgot to list all the pros of using xbox over PC - you know, to back up your claim.
Oh yeah, because there are none - apart from the xbox being cheaper - thats all.

Why spend a whole week typing non stop typing only to be told "Idc if your amazing facts and logic, pc is still better".I'll spare glorious xbox that rocket.

Ahhh I see. I've been trolled. I should have known better before replying to you, my mistake. 

SMH...Thanks for proving my point mr. pc

What was your point, remind me please ? And how did I proved it ?

A console can't get a lick of recognition without you pc elitest dismissing any good quality as preposterous and trolling because in your pc only world if it doesn't play at 1080p, it must be junk.The xbox may only play at 720p but that minor con outweighs the pc's need to be constantly upgraded every time a next gen game is released so as not to burn out your flimsy graphics card and processors.We console gamers had no need to over clock our consoles just to enjoy games like crysis and skyrim without being sent into lag hell.We console games have no need to monitor just how much drive space we use up on our consoles! We console gamers...I'll get off my soap box.Elitest pfffft

what in the hell are you talking about, I upgraded my PC a year ago and I run most games on ultra and high. At 60 fps at 1080p, while most games on 360 are at 30 fps at 720p. And it is not normal for video cards and processors to burn out.
And with the sales on Steam and other websites. I have bought new realeses for 33-50 percent off. The last full price game I bought was Mass Effect 3 at $80

[The Razman]

ZackG312 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

There is a small problem with your hypothesis.

The Witcher 2 is terrible.

hahaha you are a troll

Lol? Methinks you are the troll.

Seriously, The Witcher 2 is a bad game, and I'm fully willing to explain that opinion if you and the other guy are willing to stop your trolling and explain why you think its a good one. Somehow, I don't think you will though.