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[The Razman]

Icinix wrote...

No more than any of the BioWare games that have come before or after it. In fact, I would dare say TW1 was less gratuitous than any of the Dragon Age or Mass Effects.

So ... when that elf chick screws me as a reward for saving her life in that sidequest and I'm treated to a nice view of my character doing her from behind ... that's not gratuitous at all?

Have you played the game?

Yes. Why would I be talking about it otherwise?

Modifié par The Razman, 28 avril 2012 - 12:44 .

[slimgrin]

magnetite wrote...

Why don't they create new consoles every couple years instead of every 6 years or so? That way, the balance between PC and consoles would be a little more even.

$$$

[T1l]

iVitriol wrote...

Good god man, I surpised your double chin didn't knock your fat ass out!

Everyone step back. It's an internet tough guy. Srs.

[RUDAL]

well I just propose to every one - go to google.com and type "zerg rush" that will chill you out a bit

Modifié par RUDAL, 28 avril 2012 - 12:49 .

[AlienSpaceBats]

This turned into a PC vs console war pretty quick.

Fact of the matter is each platform has its advantages over the other, especially in terms of available games and maintenance - sometimes I wish I had a console because when a gfx card or ram sticks die it's a pain in the ar$e.

[T1l]

iVitriol wrote...

Says the PC elitist troll.

Come at me bro.

Really? Are you serious? Do you even lift?

[Icinix]

magnetite wrote...

Why don't they create new consoles every couple years instead of every 6 years or so? That way, the balance between PC and consoles would be a little more even.

Pretty much this. I play on xbox and PC, and consoles need to have a lifespan of 5 years at the most. The leap in technology and resources becomes to great.

As it was there are numerous things absent from ME3 because of hardware resources and more and more games are suffering from the same issues.

However, I also support a reasonably long life span for consoles because what developers are able to squeeze out of the older hardware now is pretty amazing, its forced developers to find new ways to work around hardware limitations to get the best result.  Things like ME3 look great when running on an ancient laptop and run smoothly because they've had to push the envelope.

PC and Console need to act in unison in a sense. With PC being the one pushing the next level of graphics / audio / technology - and the console refining it and cleaning it and find those ways within the boundaries.

Something akin to what The Withcer 2 has managed to do - on PC at max its amazing, on xbox its not as good but totally blows games from a few years ago out of the water.

[The Razman]

Il Divo wrote...

The Razman wrote...

No, sorry. You claimed that Witcher 2 is mature and arty. A game which is mature doesn't handle sex in a gratuitous, audience titillating manner. Justify the meaningless, gratuitous, tacked-on sex within your claim.

It's your claim, so it's your defence. I don't really need to defend the statement "gratuitous boobz with no narrative purpose is immature".

Kind of like the argument that a good game can never have any bad elements to it...oh wait.

If you couldn't post anything in defence of your statement that Witcher 2 is a mature game ... then it might've been better not to post anything at all.

[julio77777]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Well, this thread was certainly entertaining.

I do have to wonder why it hasn't been locked, though. It has absolutely nothing to do with ME.

It will be as soon as a mod sees it

But it was fun

[Icinix]

The Razman wrote...

Icinix wrote...

No more than any of the BioWare games that have come before or after it. In fact, I would dare say TW1 was less gratuitous than any of the Dragon Age or Mass Effects.

So ... when that elf chick screws me as a reward for saving her life in that sidequest and I'm treated to a nice view of my character doing her from behind ... that's not gratuitous at all?

Have you played the game?

Yes. Why would I be talking about it otherwise?

YOU as the PLAYER CHOOSE to screw the elf chick. The game doens't force it upon you.

You can't criticise the game for giving you that option, you taking it, and going oh this is so bad of them.

[Agent_Dark_]

RUDAL wrote...

well I just propose to every one - go to google.com and type "zerg rush" that will chill you out a bit

Google wouldn't lower themselves to using some ****ty console game as inspiration for their awesome easter eggs.  I respect a giant corporation that has class.

[The Razman]

Icinix wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Icinix wrote...

No more than any of the BioWare games that have come before or after it. In fact, I would dare say TW1 was less gratuitous than any of the Dragon Age or Mass Effects.

So ... when that elf chick screws me as a reward for saving her life in that sidequest and I'm treated to a nice view of my character doing her from behind ... that's not gratuitous at all?

Have you played the game?

Yes. Why would I be talking about it otherwise?

YOU as the PLAYER CHOOSE to screw the elf chick. The game doens't force it upon you.

You can't criticise the game for giving you that option, you taking it, and going oh this is so bad of them.

Yes actually, it turns out I can.

Just because something is optional depending on how you play the game doesn't make it's inclusion not reflective on the game itself. If there was a game which allowed you to kill children, or rape someone ... what defence is "well, you can choose not to do it in the game if you don't want to" really going to be?

You cannot call yourself a mature, adult video-game, and then include the option to have gratuitous sex for absolutely no reason with seemingly half the women in the damn game.

[Il Divo]

The Razman wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

The Razman wrote...

No, sorry. You claimed that Witcher 2 is mature and arty. A game which is mature doesn't handle sex in a gratuitous, audience titillating manner. Justify the meaningless, gratuitous, tacked-on sex within your claim.

It's your claim, so it's your defence. I don't really need to defend the statement "gratuitous boobz with no narrative purpose is immature".

Kind of like the argument that a good game can never have any bad elements to it...oh wait.

If you couldn't post anything in defence of your statement that Witcher 2 is a mature game ... then it might've been better not to post anything at all.

You might want to follow your own advice. Straightforward concepts do not seem to be your forte`. For future reference: adjectives are not considered absolutes. To say the Witcher 2 is [overall] a mature work is not to say that every element is inherently mature, which is why you crying on about gratuitous sex does not win you bonus points.

Kind of like if you were to whine that the ability to have a threesome/foursome in Dragon Age: Origins means that the game is immature. In short: basic logic laughs at you today.

Modifié par Il Divo, 28 avril 2012 - 12:54 .

[The Razman]

Il Divo wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

The Razman wrote...

No, sorry. You claimed that Witcher 2 is mature and arty. A game which is mature doesn't handle sex in a gratuitous, audience titillating manner. Justify the meaningless, gratuitous, tacked-on sex within your claim.

It's your claim, so it's your defence. I don't really need to defend the statement "gratuitous boobz with no narrative purpose is immature".

Kind of like the argument that a good game can never have any bad elements to it...oh wait.

If you couldn't post anything in defence of your statement that Witcher 2 is a mature game ... then it might've been better not to post anything at all.

You might want to follow your own advice. Straightforward concepts do not seem to be your forte`. For future reference: adjectives are not considered absolutes. To say the Witcher 2 is [overall] a mature work is not to say that every element is inherently mature, which is why you crying on about gratuitous sex does not win you bonus points.

Kind of like if you were to whine that the ability to have a threesome/foursome in Dragon Age: Origins means that the game is immature. In short: basic logic laughs at you today.

Really, you might want to stop. Because what you just said amounts to "When I said it was mature and arty, I meant apart from all the bits which make it not mature or arty". What would "basic logic" say about that ...?

Nobody's going to defend a game where you can go around having sex with multiple women as rewards for beating quests as "mature". That's a dealbreaker as far as that's concerned, unless you want to turn around and defend the sex?

Modifié par The Razman, 28 avril 2012 - 12:58 .

[julio77777]

I'm an adult and I have meaningless gratuitous sex pretty often, does that make me an immature child ? And please that has NOTHING to do with rape/killing a child those are a CRIME. Pretty horrible ones too...
You really need to learn to make a point.
Why don't you just say "Ididn't like it" and leave it at that ?

[slimgrin]

iVitriol wrote...

T1l wrote...

Really? Are you serious? Do you even lift?

We got a badass over here!

You take your PC to the gym?

Just takes a little brain exercise to see that buying a funbox is not only bad for the industry but more espensive in the long run.