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[Oldbones2]

xsdob wrote...

My choices matter because ever since I played mass effect 1 I knew that my choices do not affect the major plot points but all the little things between. These games are a choose your own adventure story and Im surprised it took this long for people to realize this.

Probably because BW advertised it as if your choices effect the main plotline?

Seriously, if they didn't make that claim, NO ONE would be complaining about this aspect of the ending fail.

But they did. 

They claimed time and time again that, your choices mattered, that the have an impact, that there is no canon, that certain decisions would HAVE A HUGE impact on the game, that we would get sixteen different and distinct endings.


Don't make those kinds of claims unless you can back them up.

And the crazy thing was, I would have been ok with what they did (though it was cheap and lacking) provided they gave us an infinite variable epilogue based on our choices.

How hard is it to write text?

[Velocithon]

ME1: Make Anderson councilor because Udina is a jerk
ME3: LOLNO Udnia must be councilor too bad.

ME1: Destroy the Rachni
ME3: LOLNO Rachni are coming back

ME2: Save Collector base
ME3: Whoops.

ME2: Destroy Collector base.
ME3: Whoops.

ME2: Legion dies
ME3:LOLNO Legion comes back (he's like the same exact thing...)

ME2: Mordin dies
ME3: Some random is still smart enough to cure genophage.

ME1: Romance Liara
ME2: Romance Miranda
ME3: LOL Liara still loves you.

I'm tired now.

[Drake_Hound]

Why not ? I honestly say let people buy the trilogy , they are only 10 each , people who cannot afford entertainement anymore shouldn't be entertained .

Wasn't this game marked a trilogy ? or was this game marked as a stand alone ?
Sorry That was already mistake one !
Lost of original concept , to satisify you cannot expect people to spent money .
Hell they can how much is a watching a movie again in the cinema ?
And who complains if you didn't watch star wars new hope and empire strike back ,,
But watch return of the jedi alone , you would familiar yourself with luke leia han etc ..

Good point mention , it is a trilogy , not 3 stand alone games , so people should get the 3 games .
There should be exclusief trilogy contents.

[Siansonea]

BioWare, just make MMOs. You know you want to anyway. Leave the storytelling and intricate plot management to people who actually want to do that stuff.

The cosmetic "consequences" only show BioWare's lack of planning, or BioWare's lack of follow-through, or possibly both. If you're not going to bother with those things, then don't bother promising them in the first place. Just make mindless MMOs for the "we'll consume anything" gamer you've been courting all along.

[Blindman25]

New players to ME3 should be able to have a play through that includes most if not all missions. However, previous players should have the ability for an epic fail. The reason for this is that previous players don't have to import a game. If they don't want to live with the consequences of their choices, they can just start a new game. Otherwise, they can import their previous game and watch the galaxy go down in flames.

For example, A new player should be able to cure the genophage (with no explanation as to why). However, an older player will need to have saved Mordin, the cure or both in order to cure the genophage. Otherwise, say goodbye to full Krogan support. This is avoidable by starting a new game.

[IanPolaris]

Alamar2078 wrote...

Edolix wrote...

It's because BioWare doesn't want new players to miss out on any content whatsoever. Which is why there is a replacement Rachni Queen, a replacement Mordin, a replacement Council, a replacement Legion, a replacement...

I'll stop. Needless to say I hate this.

Agreed.   This choice is one of the things that, IMHO, torpedoed ME3's chances of being the standard bearer of games & series that champion player choice as having direct effects on the course of the game itself.

Even if the game were great I wouldn't see the point of playing through more than a few times because you'll see 99% of the content with so few playthroughs ...

What's so sad is it didn't have to be this way.  ME2 (if you did Arrival Anyway) left us with the idea that Shepard would have to go on trial and "face the music".  Shepard's trial at the beginning of the game would have been a PERFECT way (much like Genesis) to allow new players to learn about and make the choices that the veteran players had made in ME1 and ME2 (or at least the critical ones).

-Polaris

[GimmeDaGun]

Whenever somebody brings up this debate I only say 3 words: "The Witcher 2". If it was possible for an independent, Eastern European company without a mammoth investor behind them and with significantly lower budget to create something that big and serious (where there's real variety and real choices and consequences) then we shouldn't say that Bioware couldn't have done it. They could have, but they didn't. They said it themselves that this time around they could have played around with possibilities and variety because it was the ending of the trilogy so they shouldn't have had to worry about the different scenario's effects on later games. With resources like this they could have created the greatest sci-fi epic ever with a real choices and consequences system and different story elements and sub plots. They didn't. We got kinect (pfffff...), MP (meh!) and more shiny shooting with tons of glitches and a "could have been really great" story instead. 

We have to face it my friends: ME3 is a mediocre game which failed to deliver. Basically it could not give us anything more spectacular, interesting that the previous two hadn't. ME1 and 2 **** -s on ME3. The Witcher 2 easily beats ME3 (it's a year old game!... and again it had a more difficult development: they had to create a whole new engine for it - one of the most spectacular engines so far - they had to do tons of VO, music composing, writing (a lot more complicated story than ME - with lot more complicated side quests) etc. etc..

The king's dead, long live the king! (Bioware's over, but we have CD-Project Red... so when do they want to by the rights for ME?). - I think this - no matter how hard they try - can't be corrected. And we all know that we'll only get some clarity for the ****ty ending as a dlc. Thx, but no thx!

Wish it could change... but I doubt it would. Bioware treats us like little spoiled kids: with arrogance, vaguely and without real care. CDP treats it's fans as grown up, adult people who should be taken seriously. They go for quality and not quantity. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 01 mai 2012 - 07:45 .