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[mmm buddah23]

Saodade wrote...

it is not fiction it is the reality: brune traits are stronger than blonde .

And blonde is stronger than redhead, and black skin pigment is stronger than white, so by that logic everyone ins ME should be black.

[Daennikus]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

Saodade wrote...

it is not fiction it is the reality: brune traits are stronger than blonde .

And blonde is stronger than redhead, and black skin pigment is stronger than white, so by that logic everyone ins ME should be black.

That is if you ignore cultural communitarism and gregarian instincts (the need to belong to a group of similar individuals). People who are too different won't likely pair up.

[mmm buddah23]

Daennikus wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

Saodade wrote...

it is not fiction it is the reality: brune traits are stronger than blonde .

And blonde is stronger than redhead, and black skin pigment is stronger than white, so by that logic everyone ins ME should be black.

That is if you ignore cultural communitarism and gregarian instincts (the need to belong to a group of similar individuals). People who are too different won't likely pair up.

I know, but I was just saying if everyone goes by the dominant trait logic then everyone would be black. There will always be different races, maybe not 50 thousand years from now, everyone will have similar skin trypes and similar hair types, but not a few hundred years....

[T1l]

Daennikus wrote...

T1l wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

Miranda should have been blonde.

The concept art of Miranda as a blonde is spectacular; she was also meant to be Scandinavian. Pic related.

She was already elbow-deep in stuff like eugenics and super-human-breeding business. Making her a brunette was a PR move to make her appear less obnoxious. 

I really wish they have have just gone with it. Bioware cranked the homolust to 11 in Mass Effect 3,  the 'sex scenes' (and I use that term losely, as they're exceedinly mild) in Mass Effect 1 were news worthy - Bioware should be OK with pushing the envelope.

They depicted Cerberus as human elitists, anyway. Having Miranda as a blonde Übermensch would have been fitting (and hotter ).

[Immortal fish]

Hellbound107 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Recessive gene is recessive.



(Technically, redheads should disappear long before blondes.)

The genes don't dissappear.

2 brunettes can get a blonde if there are blonde genes in the "bank" when they mix up the genes.

I wager there would be just as many blondes in the future as there are now (not-withstanding dying fads, ofc.).

You know nothing of genetics. Statisticly blondes and red heads will likely be extinct by the time this game takes place. My only excuse for White people existing in this game at all is if they are of Amish decent (isolated community). Recessive genes rarely appear unless present in both parents and only in the past few generations. Only dramatic mutation like when a person is born with a tail changes that.

See i can get the argument that blondes will be rare in the future. Cause if we do all start mixing it up genetically more like Mass effect says then yeah less people will be blonde. Because there'd be less people homozygous for the blonde allele. And because its recessive a person will only appear blonde if they're homozygous.
  
But it won't "go extinct" It won't vanish or be deleted. There will still be a few blondes most likely and there will also be people who are heterozygousfor the hair color gene, they will have a brown/black allele and a blonde allele. If someone like that were to reproduce with someone else like that theres a  1 in 4 chance their off spring would be blonde.

To sum up lets say B= Brown   b=blonde    
Person with BB genotype has brown haired. Can only have brown haired offspring.
Person with Bb genotype. Appears brown-haired. But carrys blonde allele and can have blonde haired children if their partner is blonde or also carries the blonde allele. Regardless there is a 1 in 2 chance the child will carry the blonde allele.
Person with bb genotype. Blonde haired. Can have blonde offspring depending on partner.

So yes people who look blonde may be rarer but they will still exist.  The gene won't go exist anytime soon.

[The Spamming Troll]

brunettes > blondes

so who cares.

[VampireSoap]

T1l wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

Miranda should have been blonde.

The concept art of Miranda as a blonde is spectacular; she was also meant to be Scandinavian. Pic related.

Wow...to be fair, she really looks much more attrative than the Miranda we know. But I have to say, she also somehow reminds me of those female N*zi spies. :(

Modifié par VampireSoap, 28 avril 2012 - 02:20 .

[Nefla]

Daennikus wrote...
Blond people tend to freak people out where I live (majority of dark-haired Mediterraneans) because of their clear eyelashes. It's like they don't have any.

Anyway, I'm not happy about the whole fake blonde deal. People should be happy with their body. 

Oh sir, hair is a decoration. Why would you want it to be the same your whole life? My hair has been every natural color there is and is currently blonde. I don't know anyone who has dyed their hair because they have low self esteem or body image.

The Spamming Troll wrote...

brunettes > blondes

so who cares.

THIS HURTS ME

Modifié par Nefla, 28 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[mmm buddah23]

Immortal fish wrote...

Hellbound107 wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Recessive gene is recessive.



(Technically, redheads should disappear long before blondes.)

The genes don't dissappear.

2 brunettes can get a blonde if there are blonde genes in the "bank" when they mix up the genes.

I wager there would be just as many blondes in the future as there are now (not-withstanding dying fads, ofc.).

You know nothing of genetics. Statisticly blondes and red heads will likely be extinct by the time this game takes place. My only excuse for White people existing in this game at all is if they are of Amish decent (isolated community). Recessive genes rarely appear unless present in both parents and only in the past few generations. Only dramatic mutation like when a person is born with a tail changes that.

See i can get the argument that blondes will be rare in the future. Cause if we do all start mixing it up genetically more like Mass effect says then yeah less people will be blonde. Because there'd be less people homozygous for the blonde allele. And because its recessive a person will only appear blonde if they're homozygous.
  
But it won't "go extinct" It won't vanish or be deleted. There will still be a few blondes most likely and there will also be people who are heterozygousfor the hair color gene, they will have a brown/black allele and a blonde allele. If someone like that were to reproduce with someone else like that theres a  1 in 4 chance their off spring would be blonde.

To sum up lets say B= Brown   b=blonde    
Person with BB genotype has brown haired. Can only have brown haired offspring.
Person with Bb genotype. Appears brown-haired. But carrys blonde allele and can have blonde haired children if their partner is blonde or also carries the blonde allele. Regardless there is a 1 in 2 chance the child will carry the blonde allele.
Person with bb genotype. Blonde haired. Can have blonde offspring depending on partner.

So yes people who look blonde may be rarer but they will still exist.  The gene won't go exist anytime soon.

Not true, there have been instances of all black amilies having a white child down the line because somewhere down their genetic histories line there was a white mother / father.

[jakenou]

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Modifié par jkthunder, 28 avril 2012 - 06:31 .

[mmm buddah23]

jkthunder wrote...

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Tell that to people in sweden / norway / germany / switzerland/ austria. Hell skandinavia in GENERAL has a MASSIVE blonde population, naturally. And yes, its kinda creeepy.

[jakenou]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Tell that to people in sweden / norway / germany / switzerland/ austria. Hell skandinavia in GENERAL has a MASSIVE blonde population, naturally. And yes, its kinda creeepy.

Well that's exactly what I'm wondering - if there has been any change in those populations at all. They are still a minority, but have spread their genes around the world as well have taken in new genes.

[Brony4LIFE]

jkthunder wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Tell that to people in sweden / norway / germany / switzerland/ austria. Hell skandinavia in GENERAL has a MASSIVE blonde population, naturally. And yes, its kinda creeepy.

Well that's exactly what I'm wondering - if there has been any change in those populations at all. They are still a minority, but have spread their genes around the world as well have taken in new genes.

I can't buy the "declining blonde population" argument. In Utah, there's blondes EVERYWHERE. I say the whole state of Utah's women population is 80% blonde.

[Daennikus]

jkthunder wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Tell that to people in sweden / norway / germany / switzerland/ austria. Hell skandinavia in GENERAL has a MASSIVE blonde population, naturally. And yes, its kinda creeepy.

Well that's exactly what I'm wondering - if there has been any change in those populations at all. They are still a minority, but have spread their genes around the world as well have taken in new genes.

I've frequently traveled  in Sweden the last few years and I have to say, no more than 60% of the population is blond. Then it's shades of sandy/brown hair down to black. And most of the redheads are Danish. The country that has the most blond people is Finland. Norway on the other hand, has more dark-haired people. 

What was my point aside from dumping statistics... Hm... I don't want to speak for all Scandinavians, because I'm not a Scandinavian I just know a few people from those countries, but they generally don't like being pointed at for their looks.
They can be very self-conscious 

[SalsaDMA]

jkthunder wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

I would say that blondness is and has been on the decline already, with immigration and globalization over the past century.There are so many people that dye or highlight their hair to appear blond that it's hard to tell, and plenty of young children who have primarily blond hair turn brunette as they grow - my sister for example, was blond as a child, but now has rather dark hair (underneath her blond dye lol). I would be interested to know what kind of trends in blondness have been occurring in regions where its a more prevalent trait (like Scandinavia and elsewhere in Northern Europe) that have maintained relative isolation.

Tell that to people in sweden / norway / germany / switzerland/ austria. Hell skandinavia in GENERAL has a MASSIVE blonde population, naturally. And yes, its kinda creeepy.

Well that's exactly what I'm wondering - if there has been any change in those populations at all. They are still a minority, but have spread their genes around the world as well have taken in new genes.

Lots of blondes here in Denmark. And I love it 

[tractrpl]

 I support more blondes...You can use my hands as your personal bra! 

[Abraham_uk]

Well, I don't think I can contribute anything new here.

But think about this.

Genetics cannot completly define one's looks. Especially when Mass Effect trilogy is set.

Skin lightening and skin darkening treatments along with hair colouring and facial surgery all mean that people of the future can fully customise how they look.

There are probably very few natural red heads in this future. It's just red is fashionable in that era and hair dyes don't carry all the horrible side effects that they do today.

Just because someone is white in the future, doesn't mean they are naturally white. Just because someone is black in the future doesn't mean they are naturally black.

So from the simple fact that appearence customisation is as easy as Shepard changing his/her appearence at the beginning of each sequel, I can deduct that blond hair just isn't fashionable in this particular ficture. A real shame if you ask me.


As for why the developers have produced so few blond NPC's but quite a few red heads that says more about the fact that they prefer red heads to blondes.

[Flashflame58]

Because blondes don't exist in the future.

[billy the squid]

What? All Quarians are blonde you just can't see it. You people are so spoiled.

[tractrpl]

Hellbound107 wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

So basically you're saying don't let facts get in the way of preconceived notions and personal bias. Remarkable words. 

If this site had a Kudos system my good sir you would most certainly have earned yourself a thumbs up!

Thanks for the confidence vote, btw. 

[Melra]

VampireSoap wrote...

T1l wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

Miranda should have been blonde.

The concept art of Miranda as a blonde is spectacular; she was also meant to be Scandinavian. Pic related.

Wow...to be fair, she really looks much more attrative than the Miranda we know. But I have to say, she also somehow reminds me of those female N*zi spies. :(

You have frakking weird taste in women den..