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[Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Blest HR wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

Majority of the forum knows how stupid this thread really is. Terrible minority are the only ones defending it, and I'm glad it'll stay that way.

I'll be over here playing Krogan Vanguard, with my two Geth Infiltrator bros and their melee builds, blowing through Gold in 20 minutes and having fun while you sit in the same cramped-up space for 10 waves and shoving your hand down your pants when the Player Score screen comes up, buddy.

you sir would be booted from my game straight away the only krogan I would even consider playing with me is CN and that because he really good with the Krogan and only guy ever seen use him properly.

Way to go being a fanboy of another forumite. Once you stop blowing him why don't you open up your eyes and go to Youtube and google the HUNDREDS of videos of skilled Krogans SOLOING Gold.

F***ing retard.

Assuming the entire population of Krogan players are horrible because of a few is just pure stupidity.

[DivineAura]

uh huh. I played as BF3 soldier level 1. No problem.

[Halomaster07]

Do me a favor and link the hundreds of videos of a krogan soloing gold. I spy 2 video thus far into my search, 1 only going to wave 5 (30min) and the other is more than 1 in a squad.

Ah there is one. An hour to solo, assuming legit, 25% longer than an actual dmg class/build... further lending to the fact that it is a tank... surprise.

Also, I can't believe I haven't realized this simple fact.

Through all the crap on these 13 pages, not one of you has offered actual proof that anything I have stated is false. I expect more from the Bioware fan club.

Someone please suggest a class I am wrong about, I will pick up at least 1 random of that class and I will gladly show how I am right.

[defleshing]

godless palidan said you were wrong take his word for it. don't believe me look up some of his videos. poor quality and hard to watch but when he speaks you should listen.

[InfamousResult]

I'd ask you to a game of Gold so I can prove you wrong myself, but first I'd want proof that YOU don't actually suck and would be wasting my time.

[GodlessPaladin]

Halomaster07 wrote...

Through all the crap on these 13 pages, not one of you has offered actual proof that anything I have stated is false. I expect more from the Bioware fan club.

More accurately, through all the crap on these 13 pages, you have wholeheartedly denied that anything anyone has said to you constitutes a falsification of any of your premises, with a complete disregard for rationalism and logical reasoning.

Every time someone, for example, explains to you why a very high N7 level like 750+ does not in fact correlate well to player skill, you simply restate your premise that it does, without addressing the counterpoint in any way.

http://redwing.hutma...erouscranus.htm

I wonder, what exactly would constitude proof to you?

defleshing wrote...

Godless Paladin said you were wrong
take his word for it. don't believe me look up some of his videos. poor
quality and hard to watch but when he speaks you should listen.

That's flatterring, but I don't expect people to accept what I say on the weight of an appeal to authority, but on the weight of the content of my arguments.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 03:22 .

[Halomaster07]

defleshing wrote...

godless palidan said you were wrong take his word for it. don't believe me look up some of his videos. poor quality and hard to watch but when he speaks you should listen.

He says I am wrong. Lets assume I'm wrong then. The first one I let into my group is terrible, runs off dies, leaves us to three man nearly every round. Alright that was just bad luck. Next one, terrible. Same for the third.

How many of these must I sit through to prove I'm right?

Actually, this will make it more simple. From now till sunday, I will take an HD pic (not from a wifi potatoe) of the resulting game from me not being critical of the classes I allow into my games. I am just bored enough I may actually do this.

[RedJohn]

@Halomaster07 Today I was using an Asari Vanguard with a Clamore X

[Halomaster07]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Halomaster07 wrote...

Through all the crap on these 13 pages, not one of you has offered actual proof that anything I have stated is false. I expect more from the Bioware fan club.

More accurately, through all the crap on these 13 pages, you have wholeheartedly denied that anything anyone has said to you constitutes a falsification of any of your premises, with a complete disregard for rationalism and logical reasoning.

Every time someone, for example, explains to you why a very high N7 level like 750+ does not in fact correlate well to player skill, you simply restate your premise that it does, without addressing the counterpoint in any way.

http://redwing.hutma...erouscranus.htm

I wonder, what exactly would constitude proof to you?

The counterpoint is always the same, and not actually a counterpoint in itself. "N7 level means nothing"

Proof to me would be:

1) For the krogan issue: A video of a krogan completing gold solo in a time comparable to that of a known 'dps' class spec.
2) For the random baddies not actually being bad as often as I declare them to be: A simple random sample (of the characteristics I have listed here), one that I will provide assuming my boredom continues throughout the weekend.

3) For the N7 issue: I wouldn't expect anyone to take the amount of time it would require to compile sufficient evidence to prove or disprove this claim. As it is this is more based on heresay and the experience of the individual as well as their ability to recall players of specific N7 ratings.

Modifié par Halomaster07, 28 avril 2012 - 03:28 .

[Deucetipher]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

That's flatterring, but I don't expect people to accept what I say on the weight of an appeal to authority, but on the weight of the content of my arguments.

I see what you did there! nice wink at ipse dixit!

[RedJohn]

Seriously, I use an Asari Vanguard with a Claymore, I always play gold and almost all the times I finish in the top 3.

[InfamousResult]

Wait, where are your videos, Halomaster?

[Zenning]

Wait a second..

... Halo thinks that if you can't outdamage everyone else, your class sucks doesn't he?

Well Halo, you realize a Human Vanguard will outdamage every other class no problem right? Like, no goddamn contest.

Maybe we should all go Human Vanguard.

[GodlessPaladin]

Halomaster07 wrote...
1) For the krogan issue: A video of a krogan completing gold solo in a time comparable to that of a known 'dps' class spec.

  By this "logic," you should kick Salarian Engineers.  Incidentally, Vanguards of various kinds (Human, Asari, and Drell) are all featured in lightning fast speedruns, and you say that you don't want them around.  Your reasoning is logically inconsistent and therefore wrong and wrongminded.

The counterpoint is always the same, and not actually a counterpoint in itself. "N7 level means nothing"

  This is untrue.  People have provided you with extended explanations for WHY it means nothing, rather than merely stating that N7 level means something.

Deucetipher wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

That's
flatterring, but I don't expect people to accept what I say on the
weight of an appeal to authority, but on the weight of the content of my
arguments.

I see what you did there! nice wink at ipse dixit!

...Who?

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 03:36 .

[Halomaster07]

RedJohn wrote...

Seriously, I use an Asari Vanguard with a Claymore, I always play gold and almost all the times I finish in the top 3.

At my college I always attend classes and almost all the times I finish in the top 75 percentile of my class.

[Halomaster07]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Halomaster07 wrote...
1) For the krogan issue: A video of a krogan completing gold solo in a time comparable to that of a known 'dps' class spec.

  By this "logic," you should kick Salarian Engineers.  Incidentally, Vanguards of various kinds (Human, Asari, and Drell) are all featured in lightning fast speedruns, and you say that you don't want them around.  Your reasoning is logically inconsistent and therefore wrong and wrongminded.

Good sal engineers keep up with those in a full 'dps' build.

and your point earlier was that the krogan was not a tank, and by definition all everyone has shown me points to the fact that it is indeed a tank.

A video as previously stated would verify or debunk your statements.

[GodlessPaladin]

Halomaster07 wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Halomaster07 wrote...
1) For the krogan issue: A video of a krogan completing gold solo in a time comparable to that of a known 'dps' class spec.

  By this "logic," you should kick Salarian Engineers.  Incidentally, Vanguards of various kinds (Human, Asari, and Drell) are all featured in lightning fast speedruns, and you say that you don't want them around.  Your reasoning is logically inconsistent and therefore wrong and wrongminded.

Good sal engineers keep up with those in a full 'dps' build.

  No, they do not.  There are no videos of a Salarian Engineer soloing as fast as a highly competent Geth Infiltrator.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 03:47 .

[Deucetipher]

[quote]Deucetipher wrote...

[quote]GodlessPaladin wrote...

That's
flatterring, but I don't expect people to accept what I say on the
weight of an appeal to authority, but on the weight of the content of my
arguments.
[/quote]

I see what you did there! nice wink at ipse dixit![/quote]

...Who?
[/quote]

Sorry.  You refused an argument that was based merely in faith in your own abilities.  Such an argument is characterized as "ipse dixit;" - he himself said it.  It is one of the logical fallacies.  Your response is pretty much the textbook refutation of the fallacy.  I assumed you had studied it at some point, since you used the classic refutation.

Modifié par Deucetipher, 28 avril 2012 - 03:39 .

[GodlessPaladin]

Deucetipher wrote...
Sorry.  You refused an argument that was based merely in faith in your own abilities.  Such an argument is characterized as "ipse dixit;" - he himself said it.  It is one of the logical fallacies.  Your response is pretty much the textbook refutation of the fallacy.  I assumed you had studied it at some point.

I am familiar with the fallacy (and logic as a field in general), but I never knew it by that name.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 03:38 .

[Halomaster07]

InfamousResult wrote...

Wait, where are your videos, Halomaster?

My pictures will be here within 3 days. I need time to compile them from games I will run during this weekend.

If I had known people would flip out this hard I would have taken pictures of the hundreds upons hundreds of bad batarians/krogans/etc I have already met up with.

Though even with proof you all will still deny my list though it is rather solid.

[GodlessPaladin]

Halomaster07 wrote...

InfamousResult wrote...

Wait, where are your videos, Halomaster?

My pictures will be here within 3 days. I need time to compile them from games I will run during this weekend.

If I had known people would flip out this hard I would have taken pictures of the hundreds upons hundreds of bad batarians/krogans/etc I have already met up with.

I suppose all my experiences with bad Asari, Salarians and Geth don't count?  Oh yeah, and those are featured on video already posted on these forums.  I didn't even do it on purpose.  I just see a lot of bad Asari, Salarians and Geth because a lot of people play those classes and a lot of people are bad.  However, since I am not a MORON, the overwhelming number of underperforming Geth players I've seen did not lead me to wrongly induce that Geth Infiltrators did not have potential and should be booted on sight.

Though even with proof you all will still deny my list though it is rather solid.

I highly doubt that.  However, I DO doubt that you can provide adequate proof of your claims, both because I have adequate counterevidence and because you don't seem to understand what adequate proof IS as a logical principle.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 28 avril 2012 - 03:45 .

[InfamousResult]

Sorry, all I see is "I don't have proof that I don't suck".

Which, by your logic, means you suck.

[Deucetipher]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

I am familiar with the fallacy (and logic as a field in general), but I never knew it by that name.

So you have studied logic.  Sounded like you had. Glad I didn't come off like an idiot.  Just pedantic .  I was trying a subtle, inside joke fist-bump for logic and rationality, but failed.

Modifié par Deucetipher, 28 avril 2012 - 03:51 .