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[RazRei]

obie191970 wrote...

essarr71 wrote...

Guys.. he's good at halo. he clearly knows what he's talking about.

Where's the jump button?

Jetpack bro, no jump.

[Aran Linvail]

I don't kick anyone, im a average player my self and MP its just for fun anyway so i just play to have some funny moments and nothing more.

Modifié par Baldurs Gate Fanboy, 27 avril 2012 - 07:23 .

[RedSteel23]

I don't kick anyone from Gold, unless they are clearly not going to do anything. Like if a level N80 with a level 4 Vanguard or something, yeah, I have to vote for a kick. Obviously you're turning it into a three man Gold run, when I want to do a four man. But it's hilarious the stuff you mentioned on this list. Krogan anything? I am almost always top score, yet yesterday a Krogan Vanguard was just absolutely destroying Gold. He did not go down a single time either. I went down once, the two other players were kinda eh. Either way, we won around 21 minutes and a lot of the credit, I point it towards the Vanguard. This list is just a joke.

[Drummernate]

Kick list:

Between the legs.

[Krade2k20]

XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

All you need for gold is two people, A Drell Adept or the Justicar to Spam Reave, and a Human Vanguard Charging and Nova everything, Biotic Explosions Everywhere = Dead things Everywhere.

The reason i used reave and charge is because reave is area effective, and it is one of the fastest biotic combos.

They must stay together for it to work properly,

I've always wanted to try that but I've never gotten anyone to do it with me...

[Halomaster07]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Okay, 95% of these are idiotic criteria. Let me break it down for you:

8 < Character lvl < 12 + N7 < 750.
14 < Character lvl < 18 + N7 < 200.

Okay, it's pretty obvious you pulled these numbers entirely out of your ass. Anyways, the main reason this is ridiculous is because N7 level has nothing at all to do with competence, or even time played. It has to do with how much people buy into the arbitrary promoting thing, which a lot of good players simply don't bother with because they're smart enough to recognize that it's meaningless. By contrast, I've seen level 1000+ players who were absolutely horrible, or even just plain leechers.

These numbers are estimates based on my experience. Statistically the players with higher N7s have more experience and are often better.

Batarian anything.
Krogan anything.
Vanguard of any kind.

All of these characters are entirely viable on gold and can easily top the scoreboards in PuGs in halfway competent hands. I do it all the time with every kind of Batarian, Krogan, and Vanguard.

They can be; however, like I stated before from personal experience (the horrors I've witnessed) these exclusions are often played by terrible people.

Soldier < 18.

Another number you pulled out of nowhere. For example, a human soldier minus Frag Grenades doesn't lose a lot of effectiveness, and they are actually pretty nice with the new buffs.

Soldiers less than lvl 18, this is another approximation. Often players less than 18 are lacking in some points in some ability and are a hazard to themselves and thus others.

Infiltrator + Assault Rifle/SMG/Pistol/Raptor/Incisor

I can think of a few weapons included in that list that aren't too bad on an infiltrator, such as a Carnifex or Paladin.

Aren't bad, but are nothing in comparison to shotguns/snipers.

Sniper + Adept/Soldier/Engineer/Sentinel

There's no reason not to use something like the Valiant on a Krogan Sentinel. The Raptor isn't too bad a choice on the others either, if your weapon selection is limited. It's a light AR with a free scope.

Krogan sentinel is a tank; this is not needed nor very beneficial in gold games.

Sentinel/Adept/Engineer + Heavy Weapon

A GPS X, for example, is handy on these classes, and it's fairly heavy. Also, on a Krogan Sentinel weight doesn't matter.

This would be considered a medium weight weapon at least in my eyes as it brings the cd to 100% if i recall correctly. Also, a lighter weapon on these classes is much more beneficial than extra weapon dmg.

[Jkrell]

Halomaster has no credibility. My asari and krogan vanguards are beast and I use them in successful gold matches all the time.

[MissMinaethiel]

You obviously have never met my friend who completely wrecks Cerberus with his Valiant/AA combo.

[legion999]

Krogan vanguard=insta kick?

Ha-ha-he-he-ho-ha I thought my jokes were bad.

[Baerdface]

Terrible thread. 1 star.

[Drummernate]

Halomaster07 wrote...

Krogan sentinel is a tank; this is not needed nor very beneficial in gold games.

Moronic statement is moronic.

Modifié par Drummernate, 27 avril 2012 - 07:28 .

[Icophesis]

I had a vanguard today on gold who had a 1000 or 2000 N7 rank that spammed Shockwave like a boss, and it actually helped.

The Geth SMG is pretty powerful if you ask me, especially my level viii version.

[AppealToReason]

XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

All you need for gold is two people, A Drell Adept or the Justicar to Spam Reave, and a Human Vanguard Charging and Nova everything, Biotic Explosions Everywhere = Dead things Everywhere.

The reason i used reave and charge is because reave is area effective, and it is one of the fastest biotic combos.

They must stay together for it to work properly,

When biotic supports play "follow the vanguard" its deadly

[GodlessPaladin]

Halomaster07 wrote...

These numbers are estimates based on my experience. Statistically the players with higher N7s have more experience and are often better.

  What "statistics" do you have to back this up?  You don't even have to play Gold AT ALL to get a high N7 level.  All that a high N7 level means is that you spend a lot of time farming XP using low level characters... which doesn't require any skill at all.

By contrast, a person who just stops when his characters are levelled up is not wasting time on such things.

Halomaster07 wrote...
They can be; however, like I stated
before from personal experience (the horrors I've witnessed) these
exclusions are often played by terrible people.

  Sturgeon's Law strictly applies:  95% of Krogans, Batarians, and Vanguards are crap, but 95% of EVERYTHING is crap.  It doesn't matter what classes my teammates are playing... it's very rare that PuGs aren't awful.

Soldiers
less than lvl 18, this is another approximation. Often players less
than 18 are lacking in some points in some ability and are a hazard to
themselves and thus others.

  Except you're making an approximation when you shouldn't, since there are clear thresholds where effectiveness jumps, or the growth drops off.

Krogan
sentinel is a tank; this is not needed nor very beneficial in gold
games.

  No, a Krogan Sentinel is a durable heavy weapons platform that laughs at Phantoms and throws them off the map with its melee attack.

Also, a lighter weapon on
these classes is much more beneficial than extra weapon dmg.

  How many videos of top tier players would it take for you to admit that you're wrong?

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 27 avril 2012 - 07:39 .

[Drummernate]

I have a friend who stopped at level 240.

He has all weapons level X other than a few ultra-rares and kicks ass every game.

N7 means nothing.

[RazRei]

AppealToReason wrote...

XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

All you need for gold is two people, A Drell Adept or the Justicar to Spam Reave, and a Human Vanguard Charging and Nova everything, Biotic Explosions Everywhere = Dead things Everywhere.

The reason i used reave and charge is because reave is area effective, and it is one of the fastest biotic combos.

They must stay together for it to work properly,

When biotic supports play "follow the vanguard" its deadly

When the host plays a Human Half Blast Novaguard/Drellguard (I find the drell IMO to be worse then the Halfblast) with a Asari Justicar/Drell Adept following them around on Gold/FBW/Glacier/Reaper with no missles used you're looking at a 20min clear time.  Probably one of the most effective way for anyone that plays this game can do no matter what N7 level they are (assuming the characters are at least level 15+) and what gear they have.

[Zjarcal]

Drummernate wrote...

Halomaster07 wrote...

Krogan sentinel is a tank; this is not needed nor very beneficial in gold games.

Moronic statement is moronic.

Beyond moronic... I actually hurt myself for facepalming too hard.

[nwj94]

LAMBENT GEAR79 wrote...

I disagree. A lvl 1 character can do just as much to 'support' a team as a lvl 14. You just cannot try to be the person with the highest score. If you have a decent weapon and hang back or cover flanks, you can be just as valuable as you could with a lvl 20. You just have to change your playstyle. For example, when I play my lvl 1 Claymore Infiltrator, I don't roam the map cloacking and face blasting. I stick close to the team, and probably even change my Claymore for a Paladin or Carnifex to be more efficient. If you beat gold once with a lvl 1 character, you are boosted up to lvl 9. At this point you are about as powerful as you can get (point of diminishing returns is about lvl 10-12). 

Just play smart, stay alive and communicate/use teamwork and you will do fine. 

Your right, my point isn't that their are experts who can rock a lvl 1.  My point is that it doesn't take long to reach 20 and an extra few levels will always make you stronger.  You can do very well on a team as a lvl 1.  But you will do better at higher levels, simply because you have higher lvl skills.  As a expert you should also know that you can level to 20 very fast on farm games which give the same xp as regular gold games.  Since the XP is the same you should be polite and play a few farms before you go to regular play.

There is nothing wrong with being a lvl 1 on gold so long as you know what your doing.  Common curtisy dictates though that you spend an hour getting a few levels under your belt before you do so.  As I stated earlier in reply to the OP your welcome to play in a gold game as a lvl one, if I don't feel like taking a chance on you I just go find another game myself.  However, if the whole team is level 20 and other people are voting to kick them, then I bring up my mic and politly ask them if they wouldn't mind changing to something higher level.  If they don't listen then I tend to vote with the rest of the team, if the group has consensous and you don't wish to listen than you go.  If no one cares but me then I leave, thats my problem not the skillful level 1.

Now if they ever remove farming then my point is invalide, and if your skilled then welcome to gold, I may not personally want to play with you, but plenty of others will and I will be a gentalman and leave quietly rather than raising a stink.  But, so long as farming is an option than it is really just polite to lvl up a bit first.

[Dockerr]

Kicking everyone might increase your chances of winning, but you won't be having any fun. I find the funnest games are those were you *almost* lose, but manage to pull it back. Winning easily is no fun.

[AppealToReason]

RazRei wrote...

AppealToReason wrote...

XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

All you need for gold is two people, A Drell Adept or the Justicar to Spam Reave, and a Human Vanguard Charging and Nova everything, Biotic Explosions Everywhere = Dead things Everywhere.

The reason i used reave and charge is because reave is area effective, and it is one of the fastest biotic combos.

They must stay together for it to work properly,

When biotic supports play "follow the vanguard" its deadly

When the host plays a Human Half Blast Novaguard/Drellguard (I find the drell IMO to be worse then the Halfblast) with a Asari Justicar/Drell Adept following them around on Gold/FBW/Glacier/Reaper with no missles used you're looking at a 20min clear time.  Probably one of the most effective way for anyone that plays this game can do no matter what N7 level they are (assuming the characters are at least level 15+) and what gear they have.

I was in a gold farming lobby with an engineer and an infiltrator who wanted to do their lame ass camp/decoy set up but me and a random played follow the vanguard off by ourselves and killed it. You can set off so many explosions its not even funny. It just becomes hard on the ears depending how loud your sound is.

[devwild]

Halomaster07 wrote...

Batarians are terrible in general on gold.
Pistols are fantastically terrible in comparison to shotguns/snipers on infiltrators.
SMG gives 200%; however, it's capabilities as a viable source of dmg is moot.
Engineer with <200% is viable, but not most efficient.
Falcon without host is a waste of time.
Common weapon < X shows lack of experience
Turian soldier was not an exclusion.

Batarians are excelent in the hands of those who use them well, like any class. The soldier is one of the ultimate back-watcher classes due to outstanding crowd control.

Pistols are perfectly viable on infiltrators that are power or melee oriented, though for those builds to do well on gold does require someone who's really good with it.

SMGs are perfectly viable with ammo mods. I agreed with you but I've learned better a couple weeks ago. Try it.

Engineer <200% cd is perfectly viable. You are overestimating the difference between 200 and 150 bonus. If you are good with the weapon you will put out much more damage that way. Two heavy weapons are another matter...

I actually agree on the Falcon on non-host, though if it's not your primary it can sill be handy for effects and playing corners (especially staggering swarms of phantoms).

Common weapons may show lack of experience, but that doesn't mean you can't play with them or that they won't be a decent supporting character. Give it a round before being a jerk about it. Especially if they have a mic and try to cooperate/respond to problems - that trumps experience and weapon power in most cases.

[RazRei]

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can get annoying.

[InTheZone]

This guayz a good trollerific.

[ChurchOfZod]

The amount of elitist douchebags on multi is staggering. This thread is an undying monument to said douchebags.