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[CrazyRah]

I'm pretty sure it's Omid and Christa that's in the distance. Like KBomb say i thought also that one of them were limping and that the person was definatly shorter than the other one which fit Omid rather well. If it's not Omid and Christa then i'll probably check into therapy that will be very much needed for me. The thought that Clem perhaps don't reach Omid and Christa is.. not something i really want to think.

Modifié par CrazyRah, 23 novembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[Naughty Bear]

I hope it's Christa and Omid, would be horrible of Clem ended up with another Campman or the cannibal family.

[Brockololly]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

As for those that slag on it for not "being a game," that doesn't fly with me.  No, the game's strength is not its gameplay.  The adventure game aspect of it is pretty straight forward and not overly challenging.  But the game is more than a sum of its parts.  The narrative is amazing and even though the narrative isn't as branching as I'd like it to be (I understand why it's not, I just would love for games to provide more divergence), it does such a good job of putting me in the game as Lee.

I think TellTale could do a better job with the overtly "game-y" aspects of the gameplay though too. Stuff like the shooting sections in Episode 3 were just really, really poor- to the extent that the poor controls of the rifle aiming at the start of that episode with the girl caused me to accidentally shoot her. But I felt that stuff did improve in 4 and 5. Moments like going up the belltower stairs or making your way through the crowd of zombies to the hotel were awesome.

I do hope that with season 2 they can iron out the non narrative gameplay moments and make them more engaging though. QTEs get a little boring even though they did some pretty clever things with the QTEs, like letting you choke out the stranger in the hotel if you kept mashing the Q button even after the prompt went away or having those QTEs at the end when Lee is really weak basically un-winnable.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Absolutely. I think it was Omid and Christa too. Clem probably couldn't tell  (they were tiny silhouettes) but I'm sure there was a hope, and the bit  of apprehension when she realizes she's been spotted was great  too.

Yeah...or it could be some total strangers. The ending and epilogue was almost a carbon copy as the end of The Road. Not that thats a bad thing. 

I am curious where they go with Season 2 though. Whether they keep following Clem or make a clean break and maybe only show her via some cameo. My issue with the comics at this point is that you can only have everybody dying awful and/or shocking deaths for so long before you just get desensitized to it and as an entertainment medium, its just not that engaging anymore simply waiting for the next character to die. I hope the game can avoid that rut.

Maria Caliban wrote...

What does 'he picked up on that' mean?

I'm assuming you're playing with the story notifications on? Those are just a means to reinforce certain facts towards you with regards to how certain characters are thinking of Lee and his actions or what he is saying.

Modifié par Brockololly, 23 novembre 2012 - 03:14 .

[Addai]

Was anyone else disappointed at Lee's back story? I had hoped there was more to it than simply that he rageshot his wife's lover. Like maybe he found out the guy was blackmailing her or there was otherwise some sort of justification for it. The idea that he just shot the guy diminishes Lee for me quite a bit.

[Naughty Bear]

Addai67 wrote...

Was anyone else disappointed at Lee's back story? I had hoped there was more to it than simply that he rageshot his wife's lover. Like maybe he found out the guy was blackmailing her or there was otherwise some sort of justification for it. The idea that he just shot the guy diminishes Lee for me quite a bit.

Because he is an actual killer before the apocalpyse despite him being a really decent guy? Depending on how you played of course but I like to think that Lee canonically was a good guy.

I wish I met someone like him.

[Brockololly]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
I was actually thinking how much TWD was like The Road several times throughout the game (especially Episode 2).

Yeah, although the situation in episode 2 comes up in the comic as well. But yeah... some of the specific imagery in episode 2 was very reminiscent of the stuff in that one house and the basement in The Road.

Addai67 wrote...

Was anyone else disappointed at Lee's  back story? I had hoped there was more to it than simply that he
rageshot his wife's lover. Like maybe he found out the guy was  blackmailing her or there was otherwise some sort of justification for  it. The idea that he just shot the guy diminishes Lee for me quite a  bit.

A little but not much. I mean, it felt odd in the earlier episodes because it created a big gulf between trying to play Lee and what Lee would actually know, but the game lets you to some extent mold what Lee did or did not do and how open you are about it to people. And then you had Carley who thought you were innocent.

His backstory didn't really factor into things as much as I was thinking it might, which didn't really bother me too much. Since by the time you get to the last couple episodes, your priorities are elsewhere. I think the stranger in the hotel brings it up and you can respond but I think I just stayed quiet for that dialogue choice, so I don't know what Lee would have said otherwise.

Modifié par Brockololly, 24 novembre 2012 - 01:41 .

[felipejiraya]

When you encounter Campman and he asks if Lee knows him I really thought he was somebody from his past pre-zombies like a brother of the state senator he killed or something.

[KBomb]

Addai67 wrote...

Was anyone else disappointed at Lee's back story? I had hoped there was more to it than simply that he rageshot his wife's lover. Like maybe he found out the guy was blackmailing her or there was otherwise some sort of justification for it. The idea that he just shot the guy diminishes Lee for me quite a bit.

In one of the earlier episodes, during some dialogue, I recall Lee saying that it was an accident. I wish I remember what episode and with whom he was conversing, but I distinctly remember a certain dialogue option you chose in which he says that.

Edit: I found a reference to it, the conversation was with Carly.

Under Character, 4th paragraph down.

Lee didn't rage shoot him. In fact, I don't recall Lee ever mentioning that he shot him. If they were fighting, he most likely died from blunt force trauma or something akin to it. Since it was an accident, it doesn't make me feel any different about him. He came home, saw his wife in the bed with another man and things got out of hand quickly. It was a crime of passion and if it had been any other man but a senator, Lee probably would have gotten involuntary manslaughter at the least. Changes my view none.

Modifié par KBomb, 24 novembre 2012 - 02:31 .

[Dave of Canada]

 I love this.

[KBomb]

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I love this.

I had to laugh at the still of Ben's 'Oh, sh!t." face while the photos of the dead scrolled past.

[TEWR]

Addai67 wrote...

Was anyone else disappointed at Lee's back story? I had hoped there was more to it than simply that he rageshot his wife's lover. Like maybe he found out the guy was blackmailing her or there was otherwise some sort of justification for it. The idea that he just shot the guy diminishes Lee for me quite a bit.

Well, Lee can say it was an accident in dialogue with Carley. And he can tell Katjaa when she asks if he (the Senator) would've killed Lee, that he doesn't know.

It's not really a rageshooting. It was an accident that happened in a fight, according to Lee. 

I don't think a gun is ever brought up as part of the murder.

felipejiraya wrote...

When you encounter Campman and he asks if Lee knows him I really thought he was somebody from his past pre-zombies like a brother of the state senator he killed or something.

I immediately picked up on who Campman was the moment I saw the station wagon. 

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I love this.

LOL

It's a shame Ben died in Ep. 5 so early on. He was actually proving himself to be competent as the episode progressed. Which is good.

And damn... when he flipped out on Kenny I was amazed. And I really liked how he told Kenny that at least he (Kenny) had a family to lose in this world -- even if Ben was the reason why they were lost in the first place --whereas Ben didn't even know what happened to his family.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 24 novembre 2012 - 03:29 .

[Addai]

KBomb wrote...
In one of the earlier episodes, during some dialogue, I recall Lee saying that it was an accident. I wish I remember what episode and with whom he was conversing, but I distinctly remember a certain dialogue option you chose in which he says that.

Edit: I found a reference to it, the conversation was with Carly.

Under Character, 4th paragraph down.

Lee didn't rage shoot him. In fact, I don't recall Lee ever mentioning that he shot him. If they were fighting, he most likely died from blunt force trauma or something akin to it. Since it was an accident, it doesn't make me feel any different about him. He came home, saw his wife in the bed with another man and things got out of hand quickly. It was a crime of passion and if it had been any other man but a senator, Lee probably would have gotten involuntary manslaughter at the least. Changes my view none.

I didn't save Carly, and I don't recall if he ever said it was an accident, but in his dialogue with the stranger in my game, he said he came home, found them in bed together, and shot the guy.  Doesn't say it was an accident.

[Eternal Dust]

Clem is the cutest little girl in the world. Seriously, she is freakin adorable.

I hope that's Omid and Christa in the distance because I don't want poor little Clem to go through anymore. I was tearing up through the whole ending. Bravo, Telltale. Bravo.

[KBomb]

Addai67 wrote...

I didn't save Carly, and I don't recall if he ever said it was an accident, but in his dialogue with the stranger in my game, he said he came home, found them in bed together, and shot the guy.  Doesn't say it was an accident.

Regardless of who you save, Lee states it was self-defense. The character description for him on the telltale website says the same, though the state didn't think so. As I said, he shot a senator and no matter the motive, he was going to prison.

I asked several people who saved Doug and they said they don't recall any conversation with Lee where he says he shot him. (Not saying it didn't happen, just that I can't find any reference to it via internet or others who have played it, nor anywhere can I find reference to Lee killing him out of a jealous rage.)

Perhaps it depends on certain choices you make in-game to whether or not Lee regrets killing him in self-defense or where he did so out of jealousy. Maybe it also changes how he kill him based on what kind of personality he developes. Did you roll him as a "nice" guy or kind of a douche? Could be it changes some things.


I do know that in my playthrough, he seemed regretful about the killing and expressed to Carly that it was an accident. 

Here is the conversation he had with Campman-- around the four minute mark.. He just says he killed him, doesn't say how. 

Modifié par KBomb, 24 novembre 2012 - 09:44 .

[CrazyRah]

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I love this.

Haha oh this makes me crack up so bad. 

[Maria Caliban]

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators.

The surprise, i can't take it's potency. 

Would it reassure you if i told you that a bunch of male characters are killed and rendered helpless in future episodes? I'd hate to see someone put a game down because there aren't enough helpless males or GI Janes.

[Allan Schumacher]

CrazyRah wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I love this.

Haha oh this makes me crack up so bad. 

Maybe it's just me, I felt awful for poor Ben. 

[Addai]

KBomb wrote...

Here is the conversation he had with Campman-- around the four minute mark.. He just says he killed him, doesn't say how. 

Ok, I remembered it wrong and thought he said he shot him.  It could be he told Doug that it was self defense and I don't remember.

[Maria Caliban]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators.

The surprise, i can't take it's potency. 

Would it reassure you if i told you that a bunch of male characters are killed and rendered helpless in future episodes? I'd hate to see someone put a game down because there aren't enough helpless males or GI Janes.

Translation: Yes, all the adult women are killed off or simply go insane in the span of 15 minutes, leaving us with four dudes and a little girl. I have no clue why this would upset someone; it must be because they want to see men die!

[CrazyRah]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

 I love this.

Haha oh this makes me crack up so bad. 

Maybe it's just me, I felt awful for poor Ben. 

I also do feel for Ben, he got so good intentions and yet he always end up screwing something up so horribly that someone die. I'm happy that i'm not Ben, it just have to be awful knowing so many have died due to unfortunate consequences of his actions.

[Dave of Canada]

KBomb wrote...

I had to laugh at the still of Ben's 'Oh, sh!t." face while the photos of the dead scrolled past.

Don't worry, his friend's dad was Special Forces and knew what he was doing.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I immediately picked up on who Campman was the moment I saw the station wagon.

Same.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It's a shame Ben died in Ep. 5 so early on. He was actually proving himself to be competent as the episode progressed. Which is good.

I don't think he was being competent, just... grew a bit of a backbone.

Maria Caliban wrote...

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators. 

Yeah, if you want to be nitpicky, sure.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Maybe it's just me, I felt awful for poor Ben. 

I felt horrible when I dropped him in Crawford, worse when I saw he was still alive after the fall and was screaming while being devoured. God, that was brutal.

Just... it had to be done, thankfully sparing his conscious from another death!

[Gibb_Shepard]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators.

The surprise, i can't take it's potency. 

Would it reassure you if i told you that a bunch of male characters are killed and rendered helpless in future episodes? I'd hate to see someone put a game down because there aren't enough helpless males or GI Janes.

Translation: Yes, all the adult women are killed off or simply go insane in the span of 15 minutes, leaving us with four dudes and a little girl. I have no clue why this would upset someone; it must be because they want to see men die!

Well, yes. You wouldn't be here complaining if just as many men died and went "insane". Your point is one of equality. Derp.

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 24 novembre 2012 - 12:46 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Episode 3 should be titled Women in Refrigerators.

Doug and Duck are women?