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[ShinTheZero]

7 Spectre: 0 Ultra-Rare,

4 Premium Spectre: 2 Ultra-Rare (Black Widow I, Wraith I)

[CHAw]

Since my last post, I got:

3 Ultra-Rares in 25 Premium Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)

Somebody I know gave me his data for the past month or so. He got:

9 Ultra-Rares in 67 Premium Spectre Packs (prior to Rebellion)
9 Ultra-Rares in 32 Premium Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)
0 Ultra-Rares in 2 Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)




Here's another summary of results*. This tally includes all of the data that acturater has up in the original post. Per Orca_'s suggestion, I've also added additional statistics dividing up pre- and post- Rebellion data.

TOTAL

Spectre Packs: 1767
Ultra-Rares: 81
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 4.5840%

Premium Spectre Packs: 3246
Ultra-Rares: 357
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 10.9982%

Resurgence Packs: 71
Ultra-Rares: 4
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 5.6338%

PRE-REBELLION

Spectre Packs: 1660
Ultra-Rares: 78
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 4.6988%

Premium Spectre Packs: 2490
Ultra-Rares: 244
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 9.7992%

Resurgence Packs: 71
Ultra-Rares: 4
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 5.6338% 

POST-REBELLION

Spectre Packs: 107
Ultra-Rares: 3
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 2.8037%

Premium Spectre Packs: 756
Ultra-Rares: 113
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 14.9471% 




* I did not include the following data in these updated numbers, as they were described as estimates and I am uncertain as to how acturater was handling estimates as opposed to hard numbers.

PRE-REBELLION
Bayushi Pochi: 7 URs/200-220 PSPs; 3 URs/400-450 SPs
Hunter of Deathclaws and Tanks: 3URs/~40 PSPs
Dark Absolution: 6 URs/~100 SPs; 0 URs/~50 PSPs and RPs
UKillMeLongTime: 2 URs/? PSPs
POST-REBELLION
Dantexr3: 1 URs/? VPs
Sovereign24: 1 URs/?
RhythmlessNinja: 2 URs/?
a load of stanton: 2 URs/? PSPs
AldarionnEB: 7 URs/~30 PSPs
Sharteel: 15 URs/?
The Krauser: 7 URs/? SPs; 2 URs/? PSPs

[Finnegone]

CHAw wrote...

Since my last post, I got:

3 Ultra-Rares in 25 Premium Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)

Somebody I know gave me his data for the past month or so. He got:

9 Ultra-Rares in 67 Premium Spectre Packs (prior to Rebellion)
9 Ultra-Rares in 32 Premium Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)
0 Ultra-Rares in 2 Spectre Packs (after Rebellion)




Here's another summary of results*. This tally includes all of the data that acturater has up in the original post. Per Orca_'s suggestion, I've also added additional statistics dividing up pre- and post- Rebellion data.

TOTAL

Spectre Packs: 1767
Ultra-Rares: 81
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 4.5840%

Premium Spectre Packs: 3246
Ultra-Rares: 357
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 10.9982%

Resurgence Packs: 71
Ultra-Rares: 4
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 5.6338%

PRE-REBELLION

Spectre Packs: 1660
Ultra-Rares: 78
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 4.6988%

Premium Spectre Packs: 2490
Ultra-Rares: 244
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 9.7992%

Resurgence Packs: 71
Ultra-Rares: 4
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 5.6338% 

POST-REBELLION

Spectre Packs: 107
Ultra-Rares: 3
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 2.8037%

Premium Spectre Packs: 756
Ultra-Rares: 113
Chance of Ultra-Rare per Pack: 14.9471% 




* I did not include the following data in these updated numbers, as they were described as estimates and I am uncertain as to how acturater was handling estimates as opposed to hard numbers.

PRE-REBELLION
Bayushi Pochi: 7 URs/200-220 PSPs; 3 URs/400-450 SPs
Hunter of Deathclaws and Tanks: 3URs/~40 PSPs
Dark Absolution: 6 URs/~100 SPs; 0 URs/~50 PSPs and RPs
UKillMeLongTime: 2 URs/? PSPs
POST-REBELLION
Dantexr3: 1 URs/? VPs
Sovereign24: 1 URs/?
RhythmlessNinja: 2 URs/?
a load of stanton: 2 URs/? PSPs
AldarionnEB: 7 URs/~30 PSPs
Sharteel: 15 URs/?
The Krauser: 7 URs/? SPs; 2 URs/? PSPs

Fabulous data. Love it

Was there some announcement that I missed that URs would become more frequent in PSPs post-Rebellion, or is this a discovery based on slicing up the data?

[CHAw]

Finnegone wrote...

Fabulous data. Love it

Was there some announcement that I missed that URs would become more frequent in PSPs post-Rebellion, or is this a discovery based on slicing up the data?

It's derived from collating the data, based on observations by other community members that ultra-rare frequency appeared to have increased. As far as I know, BioWare has never made any official statements about ultra-rare frequency outside of the descriptions on the packs themselves.

To be honest, I'm a little suspicious of the post-Rebellion numbers. I have a feeling that most of that data is from people who have had noticeably good luck with their packs (myself included), and therefore feel a greater compulsion to report it, which would bias the poll higher than the actual frequency. That said, the sample size of the post-Rebellion Premium Spectre Packs is fairly large, so it's hard to disupte the numbers without further information.

[Shampoohorn]

I just took the data from CHAw's post above and calculated the average credits spent per ultra rare. This is relevant since the cost of PSPs and SP's are different. Not sure if anyone had done this on previous pages.

PSP: 99K each, 3427 bought, 357 UR acquired : 857K Credits spent per UR

SP: 60K each, 1767 bought, 81 URs acquired: 1309K Credits spent per UR

So, drop rate per credit spent is about 50% higher for PSPs.

Interestingly, if you bought one jumbo pack each time you bought a PSP (i.e. 99K+33K) you would still get a higher UR drop rate per credits spent than if you just bought SPs. And you would also get much more consumables as well.

[CHAw]

Shampoohorn wrote...

I just took the data from CHAw's post above and calculated the average credits spent per ultra rare. This is relevant since the cost of PSPs and SP's are different. Not sure if anyone had done this on previous pages.

PSP: 99K each, 3427 bought, 357 UR acquired : 857K Credits spent per UR

SP: 60K each, 1767 bought, 81 URs acquired: 1309K Credits spent per UR

So, drop rate per credit spent is about 50% higher for PSPs.

Interestingly, if you bought one jumbo pack each time you bought a PSP (i.e. 99K+33K) you would still get a higher UR drop rate per credits spent than if you just bought SPs. And you would also get much more consumables as well.

After seeing those numbers, I'm convinced that the reason nobody calculated them before was because the rest of us instinctively understood that we didn't want to know them. Not the exact numbers, anyway. Ouch.

[Finnegone]

Shampoohorn wrote...

I just took the data from CHAw's post above and calculated the average credits spent per ultra rare. This is relevant since the cost of PSPs and SP's are different. Not sure if anyone had done this on previous pages.

PSP: 99K each, 3427 bought, 357 UR acquired : 857K Credits spent per UR

SP: 60K each, 1767 bought, 81 URs acquired: 1309K Credits spent per UR

So, drop rate per credit spent is about 50% higher for PSPs.

Interestingly, if you bought one jumbo pack each time you bought a PSP (i.e. 99K+33K) you would still get a higher UR drop rate per credits spent than if you just bought SPs. And you would also get much more consumables as well.

Good analysis. So each UR drop is worth approximately 12 Gold games, provided that all objectives are met, which is roughly 4:50 minutes of play time, give or take 25 minutes or so.

So that means that, at about $3 a pop, you can either spend ~$20 to obtain an ultra rare (using the post-rebellion 15% drop rate) or grind through gold for 5+ hours. Put another way: if the acquisition of URs is important to you, and grinding through gold is merely a means to meet that end (as it sometimes feels to me, particularly with poor teams or frustrating enemies / maps), is your personal time worth more or less than $4 an hour?

More to the point: is an Indra X really worth $200?

[Shampoohorn]

Finnegone wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

I just took the data from CHAw's post above and calculated the average credits spent per ultra rare. This is relevant since the cost of PSPs and SP's are different. Not sure if anyone had done this on previous pages.

PSP: 99K each, 3427 bought, 357 UR acquired : 857K Credits spent per UR

SP: 60K each, 1767 bought, 81 URs acquired: 1309K Credits spent per UR

So, drop rate per credit spent is about 50% higher for PSPs.

Interestingly, if you bought one jumbo pack each time you bought a PSP (i.e. 99K+33K) you would still get a higher UR drop rate per credits spent than if you just bought SPs. And you would also get much more consumables as well.

Good analysis. So each UR drop is worth approximately 12 Gold games, provided that all objectives are met, which is roughly 4:50 minutes of play time, give or take 25 minutes or so.

So that means that, at about $3 a pop, you can either spend ~$20 to obtain an ultra rare (using the post-rebellion 15% drop rate) or grind through gold for 5+ hours. Put another way: if the acquisition of URs is important to you, and grinding through gold is merely a means to meet that end (as it sometimes feels to me, particularly with poor teams or frustrating enemies / maps), is your personal time worth more or less than $4 an hour?

More to the point: is an Indra X really worth $200?

Yeah, someone could make a case for spending $20 right when you're starting out in MP, but spending real cash to max Ultra Rares is insanity.

[WaffleCrab]

193 PSP's bought as of today,
# of n7 cards = 7
3.6% -.-
SP's bought as of 11th june (bought my last SP then) 57
# of n7 cards = 3
5.2%

so for me. its almost better to start off buying regular spectre packs if i get 10-20 more PSP's without getting a new n7 card... PSP's seriously need a better rate of UR drops.

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 13 juin 2012 - 04:43 .

[CHAw]

Somebody gave me his data for the past week:
8 Ultra-Rares in 28 Premium Spectre Packs

[CHAw]

For this past weekend, got:

5 Ultra-Rares in 25 Premium Spectre Packs

[Maker MEDA]

5 ur in 25 psp!? That's crazy. I maxed out everything but ultras, seriously i don't even want to bother, I thought I could get some Gears now that that is out. But man, all there is characters packs.

9 PSP, 2 Gears, 0 Ultras. 15%... maybe I'll keep trying.

[bigfutus]

60 PSP
13 UR
This time no 60 PSP in a single row, but 6 x 10 PSP. I definitely repeat this method. For the science, of course!

[Bikecrazy]

A friends video about the store system.

[d_nought]

Ever since I started recording:

98 Spectre Packs
10 URs

78 Premium Spectre Packs
8 URs

4 of the URs from the Spectre Packs were achieved in the same day.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 19 juin 2012 - 12:02 .

[Josh.de]

acturater wrote...

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Yeah.... everyone's going to remember how many specter packs, premium specter packs and resurgence packs they have purchased.....

I'm not asking for you to remember all your past purchases. However, if you decide to purchase some spectre packs in the future, I would greatly appreciate if you could post your results here afterwards.

I gladly will do that. If I get a N7 next PSP, then this would be a "reset" point to count on from, or?

[greghorvath]

10 PSPs yesterday. 3 ultra rares. Pretty long lean streak before that though.

[CHAw]

Josh.de wrote...

acturater wrote...

I'm not asking for you to remember all your past purchases. However, if you decide to purchase some spectre packs in the future, I would greatly appreciate if you could post your results here afterwards.

I gladly will do that. If I get a N7 next PSP, then this would be a "reset" point to count on from, or?

 
Actually, the best point to start counting from would be the next time you buy any Spectre Packs or Premium Spectre Packs, even if you get no ultra-rares at all from them.

The more packs that we count up, the more accurate the numbers will be. In fact, I personally believe that the numbers gathered since Rebellion released have been higher than they should be because people are more likely to remember and report when they do get ultra-rares than when they don't.

So please, don't forget to report your streaks of bad luck too!

Modifié par CHAw, 19 juin 2012 - 08:14 .

[Major Durza]

I will start contributing once I start grinding again tomorrow.

[regack]

17 SP today :
weapons : 11 rare, 2 UR
gear : 4 uncommon, 1 rare
chars : 1 uncommon, 3 rare

1 pack had only 1 rare,
2 packs had only 1 UR + consumables
15 had uncommon + rare

this was probably too much information...

[UnknownMercenary]

Last week:

4 PSPs, 0 ultra rares
23 SPs, 3 ultra rares

[CHAw]

regack wrote...

this was probably too much information...

Nothing wrong with that. Somebody might want to run statistics on gear or uncommons someday, and the information you provided might help with that as well.

Anyway, for this past weekend, I got:

0 Ultra-Rares in 15 Premium Spectre Packs

Somebody I know got:

10 Ultra-Rares in 48 Premium Spectre Packs

[Creakazoid]

Today: 32 PSPs and 6 ultra-rares

[Olivia Wilde]

Out of the last 55 PSP's I've purchased...12 ultra rares (including Harrier 1 and 2)

Plus one UR in 5 SP (Javelin X)

This is with all non ultra rare weapons at X excluding the Krysae and Reegar which were at VI and IX when I started keeping track)

Modifié par Millafan4526, 25 juin 2012 - 12:56 .

[Josh.de]

26 Premium Spectre Packs bought
3 N7 Weapon (upgrades) BW lvl 6, Wraith lvl 9, Harrier lvl 2
5 Gold /rare gear