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[Dasher1010]

Somebody who'll approve of me sticking a sword in anyone's face just for the sake of violence. Maybe a mage who's a rage abomination fighting against his darker nature. He'll still click with a good character if you choose to smike the wicked, but you can also chop off an innocent person's head and he'll love it.

[Anvos]

Personally I've had an idea about and imperium royal(not sure if thats the best term for archon system) assassin who's host to a desire demon. On a further note she wouldn't be a mage but rather a further Tevinater attempt to fix the problems that led to Fenris and bring back the spirit warriors and other demon and fade spirit aided combatants for their professional army .

Modifié par Anvos, 28 avril 2012 - 04:34 .

[Dasher1010]

Anvos wrote...

Personally I've had an idea about and imperium royal(not sure if thats the best term for archon system) assassin who's host to a desire demon. On a further note she wouldn't be a mage but rather a further Tevinater attempt to fix the problems that led to Fenris and bring back the spirit warriors and other demon and fade spirit aided combatants for their professional army .

Backstory doen'st matter, I just want somebody who'll approve of senselessly violent acts.

[Anvos]

Violence without reason why their violent isn't fun in a team based battle game.

Also without discussing who/how this thread doesn't have much to discuss.

Modifié par Anvos, 28 avril 2012 - 04:49 .

[Arthur Cousland]

I wouldn't mind some kind of HK-47 in reaver form.  They would be some kind servant/bodyguard type and often ask, "Shall I kill them for you, master?".  If not some kind of homicidal maniac, then perhaps, they are a warrior to the core and enjoy the challenge of facing worthy opponents in combat, where they feel truly alive when blood and limbs are flying.

When they take damage, they must laugh, or otherwise enjoy it, as it benefits their abilities.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 28 avril 2012 - 04:20 .

[Huntress]

Can that character be killable? if is another Sebastian then No and thanks! If the writers think is going to be awesome to do this then they should put it in a book and let the hero watch this violent character walk away..

[Curlain]

 Don't know, sounds a bit to much like Stupid Evil trope to me- tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StupidEvil - which doesn't really feel anymore appealing then Lawful Stupid - tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LawfulStupid 

[PsychoBlonde]

I wouldn't mind if we have a companion whose "game face" is to be intimidating and always threatening violence. But if they spend the whole game whining about how they want to kill something 'cause they're BOOOORED imma stuff their corpse in the first available hole.

Granted, if they decide to add an extra companion, one like this would take about 3 seconds to write. Even that might put the writers to sleep, though.

[In Exile]

Dasher1010 wrote...

Backstory doen'st matter, I just want somebody who'll approve of senselessly violent acts.

Why would that person not just immediately (and repeatedly) not try to kill you?

[hoorayforicecream]

Khem Val in SWTOR is pretty much exactly what you're asking for.

[bleetman]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Khem Val in SWTOR is pretty much exactly what you're asking for.

There just aren't enough companions in games whose hobby consists of devouring people and spitting out their bones.

ToR has a few character who're like that, really. Kaliyo mostly fits the bill too I'd say, and I actually liked having her along with my relentlessly-merciful-goodie-toe-shoes-at-least-to-begin-with Imperial Agent, even if she did disapprove of basically everything I ever did.

Modifié par bleetman, 29 avril 2012 - 12:33 .

[thats1evildude]

I'm not crazy about wanton violence against non-combatants, but I quite like Blood Knight types who enjoy fighting. Oghren and Shale were cool in that respect.

[bEVEsthda]

No. I don't want exactly that. Not a sadist.
I want Minsc. My characters always felt so safe and secure, leaning on Minsc and Lilarcor, regardless of surroundings. Minsc took well care of them. I suppose I tried to see a Minsc in Sten. But while I also liked Sten, it wasn't the same. Sten did his part, but wasn't so good fighter and also didn't really seem to care much, about anything.
Someone like Minsc, who only meets greater threats with greater aggression. No fear, no doubt. Growing to challenge. The harder they come...

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 29 avril 2012 - 12:53 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

You could stick your sword to any enemies. But any NPCs? I would do that if I could, just for the sake of fun. But apparently my sword and spell won't target innocent people. They're not meant for pure violence. I bet your sword and spell would do the same too. You're suppose to be a hero, remember?

[Xewaka]

So... The Black Whirlwind? It's already been done.

Modifié par Xewaka, 29 avril 2012 - 07:48 .

[PinkShoes]

I like the idea because we have good characters and grey characters but not black characters.

[Sylvanpyxie]

So... The Black Whirlwind? It's already been done.

And should be done again.. Black Whirlwind was an amazing character. I felt like Bioware was trying to recapture Whirlwind's magic with Oghren, but the dwarf was utterly horrendous.

Jade Empire companions are all excellent, i doubt Bioware could ever "recapture" their magic. But they should look at Black Whirlwind, Kang the Mad and Chai Ka/Wild Flower again and try to make companions in future titles at least half as interesting.

/Opinion.

[Karlone123]

There has to be at least one companion who isn't always about "doing the right thing" and more about "do it your own way".

[Karlone123]

PinkShoes wrote...

I like the idea because we have good characters and grey characters but not black characters.

Oh, what about Kolgrim, that dude with the beard with the Faith's Edge axe?

[Xewaka]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

So... The Black Whirlwind? It's already been done.

And should be done again.. Black Whirlwind was an amazing character. I felt like Bioware was trying to recapture Whirlwind's magic with Oghren, but the dwarf was utterly horrendous.
Jade Empire companions are all excellent, i doubt Bioware could ever "recapture" their magic. But they should look at Black Whirlwind, Kang the Mad and Chai Ka/Wild Flower again and try to make companions in future titles at least half as interesting.
/Opinion.

Oghren is the most nuanced and deep character of Origins. Most people see him and dismiss him as an stereotypical alcoholic dorf. Once you dig a little behind the reason for the alcoholism, you begin to discover Oghren's drunken rambling, crass humor, and "anything that moves" harrasment comes to hide a deep-seated depression. His sense of self-worth removed by first losing his family, and then losing his identity as a warrior. He's not a funny drunk; he's a deppressed, self-loathing wreck of a man, hitting the sauce so that the pain goes away. And unlike the rest of the companions' personal quests, you're not actually helping Oghren face his inner demons - you're just supporting his self-denial. But the worst part comes from the gifts: The game actively causes you, the player, not only to indulge, but to support his self-destructive behavior.
Oghren is an amazing character.

Not to dismiss Jade Empire companions, they were great by their own merits. But people so easily dismissing the most complex character of Origins always rubs me the wrong way.

Modifié par Xewaka, 30 avril 2012 - 08:26 .

[nightcobra]

a character who has a lust for violence is all well and good but it can't be the main driving force behind the character's personality but it can be a suitable aspect of the character if it's part of the character but not the whole of it.

[Vincent Laww]

Essentially you're after a belligerent warmonger who disregards his own body for the sake of victory. Some sort of maniac who senselessly seeks violence wantonly. The character would most likely have an assortment of scars cataloguing an extensive history of warfare. I can see the appeal, some one whose central philosophy is governed by ceaseless desire for shedding blood. Pavel Gryphon from HOMM VI comes to mind. He was a cataclysmic fighting force, up until his demise.

Modifié par Vincent Laww, 30 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[nightscrawl]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

... then perhaps, they are a warrior to the core and enjoy the challenge of facing worthy opponents in combat, where they feel truly alive when blood and limbs are flying.

Now this I can get behind. It's very... orcish (well, Warcraft orcs and Nicholls orcs), or klingonish if you prefer that. I tend to view the Qunari as somewhat like this, but they don't take the extra step in enjoying battle for battle's sake, because everything they do requires a purpose. I imagine such a character would get frustrated with a diplomatic PC, preferring instead to knock heads together rather than settle disputes by talking.

But, to the OP's initial point, I think it would only be worthwhile to have a violent, vicious, psychopathic killer follower if we are given the option to behave in a similar way, or at least express positive views about such behavior. Otherwise the person will just seem out of place and we will be left wondering why our PC is even associating with such a person in the first place.