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10% off Super Time Force Ultra - 1 week

 

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[Katiefrost]

I was thinking of buying Legend of GrimRock. Has anyone here played it?

[Dominus]

I was thinking of buying Legend of GrimRock. Has anyone here played it?

It's a very old-school Rogue-Like game that focuses on Puzzles/Hidden Secrets, and a fair amount of combat. You're controlling 4 party members from a first-person perspective. Actually, I never got past Level 3 but it was due to confusion on a puzzle. The game itself is quite fun. If it's on sale and you're in the mood for classic dungeon crawling(similar to Ultima Underworld), go for it.

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New Release Promo

 

33% off Astebreed (1 week)

 

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Wednesday Indie Promo

 

50% off Lifeless Planet

 

http://www.gog.com/g...lifeless_planet

[Neoleviathan]

GOG's some film on it's site now. I always hoped that if they that if they tackled other entertainment they'd name that section MAGOG. Then they could sell drm-free products and scare Westboro. Any of these first docu's any good? I'm not familiar with them.

[KT Chong]

GOG may be losing more titles: now currently on the "last chance" sales are Gothic 2 and 3, the Spellforce series, the Guild series, the Red Fraction series, and a bunch of other titles.

 

http://www.gog.com/f..._chance_special

 

... doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the long-term viability of GOG.

[OdanUrr]

GOG may be losing more titles: now currently on the "last chance" sales are Gothic 2 and 3, the Spellforce series, the Guild series, the Red Fraction series, and a bunch of other titles.

 

http://www.gog.com/f..._chance_special

 

... doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the long-term viability of GOG.

 

Why are they removing those titles?

[OdanUrr]

Wow, I'm loving the new look of the GOG.com site!

[Dutchess]

Why are they removing those titles?

 

It seems to be caused by the regional pricing issue. Apparently the developers of those games don't want equal pricing for everyone.

[OdanUrr]

It seems to be caused by the regional pricing issue. Apparently the developers of those games don't want equal pricing for everyone.

 

But some of those titles are quite recent and, according to what I've read, Nordic Games were about to bring even more titles to GOG so they must've been aware of GOG's stance on regional pricing for quite a while.

[OdanUrr]

Some additional clarification:
 

The original news post is not that detailed, so I suppose some further explanation is needed. Our aim was to give you - as always - best possible DRM-Free digital distribution platform, focused on the people who use it. We believe in freedom of choice and fair treatment for all. For that reason, as we're introducing local currency payments, we're following the simple truth that $1 does not equal 1€, in other words, that 1:1 currency exchange rate for digital goods prices make absolutely no sense and are not fair to the buyers.

For that reason, along with the local currency payment option, we're starting to use our own pricing scheme that brings the value of non-US Dollar prices as close to their actual equivalents as we can help it. A game with $5.99 price tag - for example - will cost 4.49 Euro, 3.69 Pounds Sterling, 6.49 Australian Dollars, and 219 Roubles respectively.

Now, this is not your standard approach to pricing - just like our DRM-Free policy is not a standard approach to digital goods ownership. We did our best - and so did all of our partners, to keep all of the games in our catalog and offer them in the pricing scheme we've figured out, that we think is fair to all of you guys. Unfortunately, some of our developer and publisher friends had other obligations that made it impossible to reach a common ground. So, despite our combined efforts, the only sensible thing left to do, was to withdraw the problematic titles from our offer for the time being.

We know this is quite a radical step, and we're sorry if this causes you any concern. We do hope, that we'll figure this out in the future and will be able to re-introduce all these games to the GOG.com offer. There's definitely the will to do that on both ours, and our partners' side. For the time being, they've been kind enough to offer you a last chance to get the games we're removing from sales with a nice discount, so they can remain in your collections regardless of their future fate on GOG.com.

I hope this puts things into proper perspective, and clears out at least most of your questions.

[KT Chong]

The "fair" pricing idiocy by GOG is a horrible economic decision.  First of all, calling it "fair" pricing is incorrect.  It is NOT fair.  It may be "equal", but it is NOT fair at all.   Being equal is not the same as being fair.  The "equal" pricing placated the whiny and entitled minorities at GOG, but the equal pricing actually makes very little economic sense.  Worst of all, it alienates publishers when GOG has been losing publishers and has been having troubles signing up new ones. 

 

I happen to have economics degrees, so I can tell you this simple economic fact: a bowl of rice/noodle does NOT and should NOT cost the same the US and in China, just as the same video game should NOT cost the same in different regions.  Different regions have different wage levels, different living standards, different tax rates, different piracy rates, different socio-economic conditions, etc.  So the same merchandize (or video game) is actually worth very differently to people in different regions. 

 

When GOG makes American customers and Western European customers pay the exact same price for a game (on the face value,) American customers - who have lower wage levels and lower living standard - are actually paying more.  That is the gist of some very important economic fundamentals.   It was ridiculous for GOG whiners and crybabies (who know nothing about economics or finance) to demand the same price for a video game for everywhere. It was even more riduclous for GOG to give into the ridiculous demand. 

 

When I first read about the misnamed "fair" pricing, I immediately thought, "how is it fair?!?  It is NOT."  The pricing may be equalized, but economically it is certainly NOT fair.  I knew GOG would lose publishers over the fair pricing.  I brought it up in the GOG forum as a warning, but was immediately silenced.  Mob mentality seems to rule at GOG.  Now GOG is suffering the consequences.  It does not bore well for the long-term viability of GOG.

 

The reason why GOG is losing Nordic now is because their contract is the first to expire after GOG's full implementation of the equal pricing idiocy.  Nordic has decided they do not want to extend their contract with that new idiocy.  I can tell you right now: with the new equal pricing idiocy, more publishers will exit as their contract expiration come up.  Right now, the publishers are just locked into the contracts with GOG, just waiting for them to expire. I do not see how big publishers like Atari or EA will put up with the "fair" pricing idiocy.   A mass exodus of publishers is coming.

 

Anyway... it's time for me to move away from buying from GOG. 

[DameGrace]

The "fair" pricing idiocy by GOG is a horrible economic decision.  First of all, calling it "fair" pricing is incorrect.  It is NOT fair.  It may be "equal", but it is NOT fair at all.   Being equal is not the same as being fair.  The "equal" pricing placated the whiny and entitled minorities at GOG, but the equal pricing actually makes very little economic sense.  Worst of all, it alienates publishers when GOG has been losing publishers and has been having troubles signing up new ones. 

 

I happen to have economics degrees, so I can tell you this simple economic fact: a bowl of rice/noodle does NOT and should NOT cost the same the US and in China, just as the same video game should NOT cost the same in different regions.  Different regions have different wage levels, different living standards, different tax rates, different piracy rates, different socio-economic conditions, etc.  So the same merchandize (or video game) is actually worth very differently to people in different regions. 

 

When GOG makes American customers and Western European customers pay the exact same price for a game (on the face value,) American customers - who have lower wage levels and lower living standard - are actually paying more.  That is the gist of some very important economic fundamentals.   It was ridiculous for GOG whiners and crybabies (who know nothing about economics or finance) to demand the same price for a video game for everywhere. It was even more riduclous for GOG to give into the ridiculous demand. 

 

When I first read about the misnamed "fair" pricing, I immediately thought, "how is it fair?!?  It is NOT."  The pricing may be equalized, but economically it is certainly NOT fair.  I knew GOG would lose publishers over the fair pricing.  I brought it up in the GOG forum as a warning, but was immediately silenced.  Mob mentality seems to rule at GOG.  Now GOG is suffering the consequences.  It does not bore well for the long-term viability of GOG.

 

The reason why GOG is losing Nordic now is because their contract is the first to expire after GOG's full implementation of the equal pricing idiocy.  Nordic has decided they do not want to extend their contract with that new idiocy.  I can tell you right now: with the new equal pricing idiocy, more publishers will exit as their contract expiration come up.  Right now, the publishers are just locked into the contracts with GOG, just waiting for them to expire. I do not see how big publishers like Atari or EA will put up with the "fair" pricing idiocy.   A mass exodus of publishers is coming.

 

Anyway... it's time for me to move away from buying from GOG. 

 

Considering that you have used the word "idiocy" five times in your post, when you could have easily refrained from saying it, I think I understand why you were silenced on GOG forums. 

 

I'd also like to reveal another simple economic fact: a bowl of rice is not the same thing as videogame. 

[OdanUrr]

Missed the Lifeless Planet sale. These deals should really be for 48 hours.

[Dutchess]

As if the 1 USD = 1 EUR is economically fair. Would be a wonderful coincidence if the calculations ended up with exactly that ratio. It's convenient for stores to convert prices that way but I don't believe fairness is the sole or even the main reason. Sure, it will play a part, but there has to be more to it than that.

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New Release PRomo

 

Q.U.B.E: Director's Cut  60% off  (ends this Sunday)

 

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[OdanUrr]

The "fair" pricing idiocy by GOG is a horrible economic decision.  First of all, calling it "fair" pricing is incorrect.  It is NOT fair.  It may be "equal", but it is NOT fair at all.   Being equal is not the same as being fair.  The "equal" pricing placated the whiny and entitled minorities at GOG, but the equal pricing actually makes very little economic sense.  Worst of all, it alienates publishers when GOG has been losing publishers and has been having troubles signing up new ones. 

 

I happen to have economics degrees, so I can tell you this simple economic fact: a bowl of rice/noodle does NOT and should NOT cost the same the US and in China, just as the same video game should NOT cost the same in different regions.  Different regions have different wage levels, different living standards, different tax rates, different piracy rates, different socio-economic conditions, etc.  So the same merchandize (or video game) is actually worth very differently to people in different regions. 

 

When GOG makes American customers and Western European customers pay the exact same price for a game (on the face value,) American customers - who have lower wage levels and lower living standard - are actually paying more.  That is the gist of some very important economic fundamentals.   It was ridiculous for GOG whiners and crybabies (who know nothing about economics or finance) to demand the same price for a video game for everywhere. It was even more riduclous for GOG to give into the ridiculous demand. 

 

When I first read about the misnamed "fair" pricing, I immediately thought, "how is it fair?!?  It is NOT."  The pricing may be equalized, but economically it is certainly NOT fair.  I knew GOG would lose publishers over the fair pricing.  I brought it up in the GOG forum as a warning, but was immediately silenced.  Mob mentality seems to rule at GOG.  Now GOG is suffering the consequences.  It does not bore well for the long-term viability of GOG.

 

The reason why GOG is losing Nordic now is because their contract is the first to expire after GOG's full implementation of the equal pricing idiocy.  Nordic has decided they do not want to extend their contract with that new idiocy.  I can tell you right now: with the new equal pricing idiocy, more publishers will exit as their contract expiration come up.  Right now, the publishers are just locked into the contracts with GOG, just waiting for them to expire. I do not see how big publishers like Atari or EA will put up with the "fair" pricing idiocy.   A mass exodus of publishers is coming.

 

Anyway... it's time for me to move away from buying from GOG. 

 

It's true, fairness and equality need not be the same thing. And while I don't have any economic degree it is easy to see that goods being priced equally across all countries might be unfair considering the differences in the average wage level (AWL) of each country. The question is, however, does any online retailer (Steam, Origin, GOG, etc.) actually take this into account?

 

Let's take a look at Age of Wonders III (AoW3) for instance. According to www.steamregionalprices.com, AoW3 has the following regional prices (on Steam):

 

• Australia: $39.99
• U.S.: $39.99
• UK: 29.99 pounds
• Europe Tier 1: 39.99 euro
• Europe Tier 2: 39.99 euro
• Russia: 599 py6

 

The following are AWLs in PPP dollars from 2009 (Source: ILO):

 

• Australia: $2,610
• U.S.: $3,263
• UK: $3,065
• Russia: $1,215

 

Since there are many countries in Europe it's very difficult to group them into two tiers of AWL so already we see a flaw with Steam's regional pricing scheme. For the remaining countries listed we can see the U.S. has the highest AWL of the four followed closely by the UK in second place, then Australia in third place, and lastly Russia with half that amount. IF (and that's a BIG if) Steam adjusts regional pricing according to the AWL, then the game should be cheapest in Russia, then Australia, UK and U.S., in that order. So, if we convert those amounts to USD at the current currency rates:

 

• Australia: $37,43
• U.S.: $39.99
• UK: $49,75
• Russia: $16,327

 

The order is mostly respected except for the UK where it's more expensive despite having a lower AWL than the U.S. Let's look at the ratios, shall we? If we take the lowest AWL (Russia) as 1, then the others are:

 

• Australia: 2.15:1
• U.S.: 2.69:1
• UK: 2.52:1
• Russia: 1:1

 

The price ratios, however, are:

 

• Australia: 2.29:1
• U.S.: 2.45:1
• UK: 3.05:1
• Russia: 1:1

 

So with the exception of the U.S., where it has a lower ratio than the AWL one, both Australia and the UK have a higher price ratio for AoW3 than the AWL ratio. This is an extremely simplified analysis, mind you, already inexact since we're using AWLs from 2009 and even the ILO admits their data is patchy at best.

 

AoW3 is also regionally priced on GOG (GOG has regionally priced games, see the list here). Unfortunately, I could not find any information on GOG's regional pricing scheme but it must be different from Steam's at least since the game is $31.59 for me. ILO doesn't have data on the AWL for my country but the AWL at the end of 2011 was around $785 (and this is probably a generous estimate that doesn't take into account purchasing power). Needless to say, this is even lower than the AWL for Russia and yet the game costs twice as much.

 

In the end, sure, an equal price policy is undoubtedly unfair to some but the regional pricing policy is also unfair to others and, as you can see, GOG uses both. I don't know why Nordic is withdrawing its catalogue from GOG but I don't think it's because of the equal pricing policy.

 

EDIT: Apparently, regionally-priced titles are only the ones released before GOG adopted this new flat-price policy. Why then doesn't it apply to Nordic games?

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Games in this sale are mostly from the Sierra portion of there Catalog (Space Quest, Police Quest, King's Quest, Gabriel Knight etc.)

 

 

 

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60% off Moebius: Empire Rising

 

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Weekend Promo

 

An Autumn Assortment at 60% off

 

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Includes games from:

 

Stronghold Series

Lords of the Realm Series

Evil Genius

Empire Earth Series

Commandos Series

Ground Control Series

Creatures Series

 

 and More

 

 

Note:

 

Constructor is being removed from GOG and is currently on sale at 67% off

 

http://www.gog.com/game/constructor

 

The removal is due to the IP rights being moved to a different publisher who currently does not have an agreement signed with GOG.

 

 

Pre-Order Offer

 

10% off Wasteland 2 Deluxe Edition

 

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This promo also includes GOG codes for The Original Wasteland and The Bard's Tale (2004)

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GOG's 6th Birthday sale event

 

Year one sale - save up to 80% off

 

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Includes games from

 

 

Unreal Series

Postal Series

Broken Sword Series

Beyond Good & Evil

Rise of the Triad

Heroes of Might and Magic

 

and more.

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GOG's 6th Birthday Sale Event

 

Year Two sale - Save up to 80% off

 

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Includes games from:

 

Master of Orion Series

Might & Magic Series

Arcanum

Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption

Myst Series

Sanitarium

Another World

Gabriel Knight

Bloodrayne

The Longest Journey

 

 

and more.