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[CmnDwnWrkn]

Every time I see Garrus with a female Shep, I think "Beasti-"....not sure if I can write out that word so I'll just leave it at that.  Basically, it's like watching a human with a rhinocerous.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Cainora wrote...

I have no clue if its possible in a lab or not but my question would be if it is then why would they do this? I really don't see what would be gained from doing so. You could agrue that nothing would be lost either but then you have a child who is likely going to have to deal with social issues their entire life because as far as we know there are no hybrids in Mass Effect.

It's also illegal in Alliance space, so aside from being a social pariah, the kid would have to hide from the authorities. I sense a ton of resentment issues.

I don't think it's actually possible, though. Both of Shepard's replies to Garrus' joke (she laughed, it's obvious he wasn't serious) seem to indicate that that just doesn't work.

@CmnDwnWrkn: Garrus is not an animal, he's a sentient being from another world. It's hardly the same thing. The term for this is xenophilia.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 01 mai 2012 - 11:22 .

[Cainora]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Every time I see Garrus with a female Shep, I think "Beasti-"....not sure if I can write out that word so I'll just leave it at that.  Basically, it's like watching a human with a rhinocerous.

So what about the other alien races that Shepard can hook up with? Do you think of the same thing or is it different somehow?

[Cainora]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Cainora wrote...

I have no clue if its possible in a lab or not but my question would be if it is then why would they do this? I really don't see what would be gained from doing so. You could agrue that nothing would be lost either but then you have a child who is likely going to have to deal with social issues their entire life because as far as we know there are no hybrids in Mass Effect.

It's also illegal in Alliance space, so aside from being a social pariah, the kid would have to hide from the authorities. I sense a ton of resentment issues.

I don't think it's actually possible, though. Both of Shepard's replies to Garrus' joke (she laughed, it's obvious he wasn't serious) seem to indicate that that just doesn't work.

@CmnDwnWrkn: Garrus is not an animal, he's a sentient being from another world. It's hardly the same thing. The term for this is xenophilia.

Wait how do we know that it is illegal in Alliance Space? And even if it is I doubt that would stop someone from doing it if it was possible.

[Zkyire]

The idea of hybrids is.. repulsive.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Cainora wrote...

Wait how do we know that it is illegal in Alliance Space? And even if it is I doubt that would stop someone from doing it if it was possible.

Genetic manipulation in general that would alter humanity beyond its limitations is illegal in Alliance space. It's in a Codex entry.

[Cecilia L]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, Cecilia L. To me the best possible ending involves realistic possibilities and consequences. There is plenty of room for the 'best possible happy ending' without hybrids. My Shepard, for one, will not feel any less fulfilled for raising adorable adopted turians with their father's clan markings.

Disagreement agreed.

Adopting little krogans, humans and turians would indeed be a "best possible happy ending". Being able to have babies of their own would however be the cherry on top.
(or so my hormones tell me, as I've said before: successful procreation = big deal for all organics)

I also like realistic possibilities within the universe, but there's just been so much bad unrealistic things going on lately, so I figure why not something unrealistic that's good? And with good writing, anything can be explained as possible.

Modifié par Cecilia L, 01 mai 2012 - 11:31 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

I was just joking. I'm pretty sure I was attracted to an Elcor at least twice during the series, so I'm no better.

[fle6isnow]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I was just joking. I'm pretty sure I was attracted to an Elcor at least twice during the series, so I'm no better.

Coquettishly: well hello there, handsome.

Here's a turian big brother with his human little sis!

[Cainora]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Cainora wrote...

Wait how do we know that it is illegal in Alliance Space? And even if it is I doubt that would stop someone from doing it if it was possible.

Genetic manipulation in general that would alter humanity beyond its limitations is illegal in Alliance space. It's in a Codex entry.

Yea you're right I just looked it up, that being said you might be able to dodge this by claiming that child isn't human or whatever either way I think hybrids are not possible nor should they be in Mass Effect. Just my opinion though.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

fle6isnow wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I was just joking. I'm pretty sure I was attracted to an Elcor at least twice during the series, so I'm no better.

Coquettishly: well hello there, handsome.

Here's a turian big brother with his human little sis!

She appears to be under the influence of Morinth's creepy black eye trance thing

[Shallyah]

All of you people against hybrids are just not ready to think in Mass Effect as setting. Seventy years ago people found repulsive that a black person would breed with a caucassian or a chinese. There were even laws against it in some countries, with death penalties. Twenty years ago most people found repulsive that two persons of the same gender would ever be able to marry and raise children, it was an outrageous aberration to nature. Some still think like that, specially fascist parties that live trapped in a past of traditions, afraid of change.

We do not live in the Mass Effect Universe and many people just aren't ready for that kind of evolution. What really matters is two beings, sentient, sapient and full aware of their mutual feelings. Interracial breeding would happen if it's possible at all and demonstrated not to have harmful effects on the descendants. And sooner or later, it would be accepted, and people who don't would be looked down at as fascist and brain dead.

The only question is at which point of acceptance is the time of Mass Effect in which we play, but I think the Asari alone broke all the molds on interracial relationships for everyone many decades ago.

Modifié par Shallyah, 01 mai 2012 - 11:54 .

[Zkyire]

Shallyah wrote...

All of you people against hybrids are just not ready to think in Mass Effect as setting. Seventy years ago people found repulsive that a black person would breed with a caucassian or a chinese. There were even laws against it in some countries, with death penalties. Twenty years ago most people found repulsive that two persons of the same gender would ever be able to marry and raise children, it was an aberration of nature. Some still do, specially fascist parties that live trapped in a past of traditions, afraid of change.

We do not live in the Mass Effect Universe and many people just aren't ready for that kind of evolution. What really matters is two beings, sapient, sentient and full aware of their feelings. Interracial breeding would happen if it's possible at all and demonstrated not to have harmful effects on the descendants. And sooner or later, it would be accepted, and people who don't would be looked down at as fascist.

The only question is at which point of acceptance is Mass Effect, but I think the Asari alone broke all the molds on interracial relationships for everyone many decades ago.

Oh please, I've been into sci-fi my entire life.

It doesn't change the fact that hybrids are repulsive.

And don't try to bring race into this.

Mixing with a member of a different race (but still part of your species) is not the same as trying to genetically engineer a hybrid between two completely different species.

The former is as nature intended.

The other is a horror show waiting to happen. I direct you to what happened in Alien Ressurrection.

[Shallyah]

Zkyire wrote...

Oh please, I've been into sci-fi my entire life.

It doesn't change the fact that hybrids are repulsive.

And don't try to bring race into this.

Mixing with a member of a different race (but still part of your species) is not the same as trying to genetically engineer a hybrid between two completely different species.

The former is as nature intended.

The other is a horror show waiting to happen. I direct you to what happened in Alien Ressurrection.

Of course, because the alien had such passion for Ripley and loved her with his heart. Then raised the little alien in a private school with all the love and tenderness of a family.

You just don't get it at all because you're not ready for it.

I'd like to know what you think of Half-elves in other fantasy settings, and I bet my gonads that you see that much more acceptable than a half-quarian or half-turian.

Modifié par Shallyah, 02 mai 2012 - 12:00 .

[Cainora]

Shallyah wrote...

All of you people against hybrids are just not ready to think in Mass Effect as setting. Seventy years ago people found repulsive that a black person would breed with a caucassian or a chinese. There were even laws against it in some countries, with death penalties. Twenty years ago most people found repulsive that two persons of the same gender would ever be able to marry and raise children, it was an aberration of nature. Some still do, specially fascist parties that live trapped in a past of traditions, afraid of change.

We do not live in the Mass Effect Universe and many people just aren't ready for that kind of evolution. What really matters is two beings, sapient, sentient and full aware of their feelings. Interracial breeding would happen if it's possible at all and demonstrated not to have harmful effects on the descendants. And sooner or later, it would be accepted, and people who don't would be looked down at as fascist and brain dead.

The only question is at which point of acceptance is the time of Mass Effect in which we play, but I think the Asari alone broke all the molds on interracial relationships for everyone many decades ago.

Believing it is not possible with the current tech in Mass Effect and/or just DNA in general is different from being against the idea of hybrids. I just don't think it would work that well but maybe science will prove me wrong one day, at the end of the day I don't care if you want to have a hybrid baby be my guest. If I ever got with an alien though and couldn't have offspring, I think I would just stick to adoption.  And that is if I even agree to have kids.  

Modifié par Cainora, 02 mai 2012 - 12:00 .

[fle6isnow]

I'm not against making hybrids per se, but I just don't think my Shepard would choose to do so when there are so many war orphans who need love. ADOPT ALL THE KIDS!

[Taboo]

These threads are what make me come back every day.

More babies for everyone and I mean everyone!

[Paragon-King]

I'd rather my FemShep had Kaidans children. For the sake of the species... and passing down those perfect Shepard genes. Just a thought.

[Zkyire]

Shallyah wrote...

Of course, because the alien had such
passion for Ripley and loved her with his heart. Then raised the little
alien in a private school with all the love and tenderness of a family.

You just don't get it at all because you're not ready for it.

I'd
like to know what you think of Half-elves in other fantasy settings,
and I bet my gonads that you see that much more acceptable than a
half-quarian or half-turian.

Nature vs nurture.

You're creating a hybrid of two completely different species not knowing what the result will be. At all. The 'child' could be mentally insane, or physically deformed (as well as being hideous, which let's face it - it will be, no amount of happy, chibi anime art style where everything looks cute can take away the reality of the situation) and the child WILL get ridiculed as a result, but you wouldn't care about that because you got your baby, not to mention be vulnerable to a whole host of diseases and conditions that neither individual parent species were.

It's an experiment. You'd be engineering a new life form as some sick experiment just to be able to go "Aw Garrus, we have a child now and we can get marrrrrieeeeed and live haaaapily everrr aafffterrrrr yaaaay!"

Modifié par Zkyire, 02 mai 2012 - 12:05 .

[MakeMineMako]

Cainora wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Cainora wrote...

I have no clue if its possible in a lab or not but my question would be if it is then why would they do this? I really don't see what would be gained from doing so. You could agrue that nothing would be lost either but then you have a child who is likely going to have to deal with social issues their entire life because as far as we know there are no hybrids in Mass Effect.

It's also illegal in Alliance space, so aside from being a social pariah, the kid would have to hide from the authorities. I sense a ton of resentment issues.

I don't think it's actually possible, though. Both of Shepard's replies to Garrus' joke (she laughed, it's obvious he wasn't serious) seem to indicate that that just doesn't work.

@CmnDwnWrkn: Garrus is not an animal, he's a sentient being from another world. It's hardly the same thing. The term for this is xenophilia.

Wait how do we know that it is illegal in Alliance Space? And even if it is I doubt that would stop someone from doing it if it was possible.

It is due to the Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act in 2161.

And it's technically illegal in Council space, since it's creating a new form of sapient life.

[Cainora]

Don't think this has been posted yet...if so well not much to do about it.

[fle6isnow]

Taboo-XX wrote...

These threads are what make me come back every day.

More babies for everyone and I mean everyone!

Oh god, I just imagined Oprah giving away krogan kids.

"You get a krogan baby! And you get a krogan baby! And you! And you! More babies for everyone!"

Gah, my brain!

[Shallyah]

Zkyire wrote...

Nature vs nurture.

You're creating a hybrid of two completely different species not knowing what the result will be. At all. The 'child' could be mentally insane, or physically deformed (as well as being hideous, which let's face it - it will be, no amount of happy, chibi anime art style where everything looks cute can take away the reality of the situation), not to mention be vulnerable to a whole host of diseases and conditions that neither individual parent species were.

It's an experiment. You'd be engineering a new life form as some sick experiment just to be able to go "Aw Garrus, we have a child now and we can get marrrrrieeeeed and live haaaapily everrr aafffterrrrr yaaaay!"

If the children are little monstruous creatures of hell without eyes or with two heads nobody would have them, obviously. As father/mother you'd be the first person that is not interested on having a crippled offspring. Worse comes to worst, you can always adopt an orfan.

[Taboo]

fle6isnow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

These threads are what make me come back every day.

More babies for everyone and I mean everyone!

Oh god, I just imagined Oprah giving away krogan kids.

"You get a krogan baby! And you get a krogan baby! And you! And you! More babies for everyone!"

Gah, my brain!

You've now made me imagine that Oprah had enough money to keep herself alive that long. 

Babies! Babies for everyone!

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Cainora wrote...


Don't think this has been posted yet...if so well not much to do about it.

Whoever made this deserves a lifetime supply of whatever they want.