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[SunTzuz]

While playing Origins, it felt like a bioware game.  When playing DA2, it felt like a bioware game but didn't feel like a Dragon Age game.

Doom 1 & 2 felt like doom cause of the hordes of monster; Doom 3 felt wrong.  Maybe Doom 4 will go back to hordes of monsters again, mindless shooting.
HL1 & 2 had Gordan Freeman, puzzles, crawling through air duct, crowbar and others combined to feel like half-life.  I can't imagine HL3 without the crowbar or crawling through air ducts.
Mass Effect had Sheppard, the Normandy, and Joker.
TES had you as the prisoner, a big world and plenty of things to do if you choose to.
XCOM Enemy Unknown - not the FPS one.  Looking forward to see if it feels like XCOM.
Civilization - self explanatory

Overtime with each iteration, you may take away or add new things to go forward with. Like thermal clips; the morrowind theme; culture borders. 

Since Origins and DA2 were quite different, what will make the next hypothetical Dragon Age game feel like a Dragon Age game.

My thoughts are DA2 did a good thing (by being not as good or accepted as Origins) that the next game can basically start over; to create that "This is a Dragon Age game" (not just a bioware game) which they can carry forward with each iteration.  Story alone might not be enough as each game has a different protagonist and companions (except maybe Anders... NOW STAY DEAD!!!).

The only things that they are bound to bring back are Flemeth, Sandal and Bodan!

[BomberJR]

Hard to say how they will go...DAO and DA2 are so different from each other I would expect them to reinvent the wheel again for DA3.

[SetecAstronomy]

It may seem minor, but for me the heart of DA is the music.

[ScotGaymer]

I wish people would stop saying that the combat in DA2 was "really different" because it really wasn't. The mechanics of it were EXACTLY the same; it was made to "Look" flashier because of the new Animations but Animations do not make the combat.

EDIT:
I should say that the heart of ALL bioware games is the dialogue and the characters; and as long as each BW game has those then it will feel like a Bioware game

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 29 avril 2012 - 05:01 .

[huwie]

I played as a rogue and the combat was extremely different, because DA:O's tactical/stealthy positioning was abstracted by DA2 into a button-press (the button positioned you automatically). For me, such a change is far more important than the "look" of a particular combat move, since it's an actual, fundamental gameplay change.

Modifié par huwie, 29 avril 2012 - 07:34 .

[ScotGaymer]

huwie wrote...

I played as a rogue and the combat was extremely different, because DA:O's tactical/stealthy positioning was abstracted by DA2 into a button-press (the button positioned you automatically). For me, such a change is far more important than the "look" of a particular combat move, since it's an actual, fundamental gameplay change.

Again that isn't really a mechanical change, so it isn't a change to the actual combat. Its a change to the implementation of said combat which is a different thing.

It changes the feeling of it, like the animations change the look of it.

[huwie]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

huwie wrote...

I played as a rogue and the combat was extremely different, because DA:O's tactical/stealthy positioning was abstracted by DA2 into a button-press (the button positioned you automatically). For me, such a change is far more important than the "look" of a particular combat move, since it's an actual, fundamental gameplay change.

Again that isn't really a mechanical change, so it isn't a change to the actual combat. Its a change to the implementation of said combat which is a different thing.

It changes the feeling of it, like the animations change the look of it.

I suspect we're disagreeing on what "mechanics" are. To me, the concept (stabbing the enemy in the back, for example) is essentially the same but the mechanic that a player uses to apply that concept during gameplay (positioning using tactical judgement, vs pressing a button) are entirely different.

[AkiKishi]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I wish people would stop saying that the combat in DA2 was "really different" because it really wasn't. The mechanics of it were EXACTLY the same; it was made to "Look" flashier because of the new Animations but Animations do not make the combat.

EDIT:
I should say that the heart of ALL bioware games is the dialogue and the characters; and as long as each BW game has those then it will feel like a Bioware game

It is really different. Changes in stealth and the hold feature being more like being attached to the party by a piece of elastic fundametally change the combat. As do things appearing out of nowhere and coming in waves from the sky.

[Vincent Laww]

The Heart of a Dragon Age Game is the Characters. The bonds shared between the protagonist, and his/her party members. The way they overcome adversity, evolving from unseasoned beings, to becoming well developed masters of their own classes. Champions of their own fate.