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[Star fury]

Firebase White Geth Gold. Easy way to "beat gold" and get quick creds. It's popular, but farmers don't understand that they ruin a game.
When I wrote popular, I didn't know how much popular. Now we know - 36% of games play on FB White when players(farmers) choose a map.

1. If you farm, you lose your skills. In my own experience I can say that you become worse player and my friends agree too. If you think that it's a first step to gold games, you are wrong. It's on par with bronze and just gives you bad habits like camping in one place and dying.
2. Majority of the public gold games are now FB W/G/G. It means when you want to have fun, try new maps, classes and weapons all you get is one bloody map with bloody weak enemies.
3. Don't suggest hosting lobby - there are two big issues:
a) It takes too much time to fill your own lobby. No matter the setup -
random/random, Cerberus, Reapers, Geth without FB White etc. Most of the times it's 30 minutes and lobby is empty.
Even if people enter lobby, too many leave it, when they see random/random setup for example.

Play different maps and different enemies. Choose random game. Have fun and don't grind.
P.S. Hopefully Bio will fix this with balance changes or with a patch.
P.P.S. Updated about hosting lobby.
P.P.P.S. Added stats about FB White.

Modifié par Star fury, 09 mai 2012 - 05:26 .

[SilencedScream]

I don't mind people playing FBW, geth on gold.

What I mind is people acting like they're pros at gold for doing so.
Exploiting weak AI doesn't make you good at a game.

[gaminazn]

Air Quotes wrote...

Also, it's the unlock "store" that adds to this cancer. 

Yup. 70 million credits needed to "guarantee" an unlock to lvl 10 of any N7 weapon.... ridiculous. I'd rather they just charged a million credits and let me choose the gun. Or something different. Or increase the drop rate after you've unlocked everything else.

[Star fury]

Air Quotes wrote...

Also, it's the unlock "store" that adds to this cancer. 

Completely agree. There would have been less farmers, had we had sound store system and not this abomination. But people always farm because it's quick and easy if you know ways.

Modifié par Star fury, 29 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[draconian139]

It doesn't really matter. The farmers are just after gear unlocks and most of the people with that mentality won't play MP for long after achieving their goal so it doesn't have much of an effect on normal matches.

Personally I think the "cancer" with MP is the large number of people that will vote kick if you're using anything that's not within a small set of approved loadouts/classes.

[Barneyk]

The only "cancer" is people complaining about stuff that doesnt effect them...

[MrRag]

The source of the problem is the random unlock system and the fixed amount of credits you get for each completion.

[maxtofunator]

You learn how to play gold because you can't take constant fire. Also, a lot of gold players use it as warm up, and most people who do play on it can probably out score most people still, they are mostly good players, and do this for the unlock system, and then go and play what they want still.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Agreed.


IMO, Bioware should just suspend FBW:G:G already for being abused by players, and then put a failsafe spawn-point to buck this strategy. Teach those worthless farmers.

[Cyonan]

There's nothing wrong with people wanting to play that setup really. Yes it's repetitive and boring and all that, but if you don't want to play it, just host your own game that isn't set to FBW/Geth/Gold.

You should worry less about what other people that you've never met and probably never will meet are doing with their spare time.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Gold isn't fun period though.  If I'm gonna do gold its purely for credit farming, thus FBW/G/G is the easiest way to go.

When I want to have fun and play different maps/enemies I play silver. 

[landylan]

i get rlly tired of playing with people who camp... theres a bunch of wannabe elitists who think its impossible to melee on gold but when your team stays together and mobile its pretty easy

[Star fury]

Cyonan wrote...

There's nothing wrong with people wanting to play that setup really. Yes it's repetitive and boring and all that, but if you don't want to play it, just host your own game that isn't set to FBW/Geth/Gold.

You should worry less about what other people that you've never met and probably never will meet are doing with their spare time.

Star fury wrote...
2) Majority of the public gold games are
now FB W/G/G. It means when you want to have fun, try new maps, classes
and weapons all you get is one bloody map with bloody weak enemies.

Sometimes my friends are busy and I play pub matches. And guess what pops up in 9 out of 10?

[Rasputin17]

I agree too many players use it as a crutch but it does make sense. You can get quick credits and level up your weapons and mods. The problem is even after you max everything everyone seems to stay on FBW just out of habit.

[Sacramentum]

I think its eliteism. People kick so fast for trying out a new or unique build. Its pathetic.

[a ViciousFerret]

Barneyk wrote...

The only "cancer" is people complaining about stuff that doesnt effect them...

Did you read the OP? It does affect us, because we can't find normal matches anymore...

FBW farming isn't even the fastest way to get credits. Playing Gold normally will complete matches quicker. FBW is just requires the least amount of effort.



For anyone looking to break out of farming habit, play Silver nonstop for a few days. Not only you will reacquire the skills from Bronze+silver you forgot due to excessive farming but when you go back to farming you will be uber bored and won't stand it. It's how I stopped farming.

(and from there just keep practicing on Silver until you think you can move on to Gold)

[panda1pandemic]

Because of FBWGG I really don't enjoy fighting geth anymore, sadly.

[Cyonan]

Star fury wrote...

Sometimes my friends are busy and I play pub matches. And guess what pops up in 9 out of 10?

I think you may have missed the part where I said to host your own game.

You know, the thing that lets you specifically choose which enemy/map you want to play against, and on which difficulty.

[vGriMz]

They could just do this -

Operation Aggression

Due to overwhelming amounts of losses in Firebase White, the Geth have deployed several tactically trained forces to take the base back. The ultimate amount of N7 Forces there recently has pushed the Geth back. The Geth are not happy, and with this comes retaliation. The Geth will have three times the Primes, and twice the amount of forces on the map. Trained units were sent to retake the base, and have received buffs that will make any player staggered by the sheer force of these units.

It could be in place for a while until people back off, and the Geth will have victory.

Modifié par vGriMz, 29 avril 2012 - 12:52 .

[Phydeaux314]

I personally prefer FBG/Geth/Gold for my farm runs. Hang out in the fire control building, two covering the lower approach, two covering the upper approach. Works well with a whole host of builds - justicar/vanguard, sentinel/adept, infiltrator/tank, you name it.

Although really it's not a "farm exploit" as much as it is a lesson in holding a fixed position.

[Star fury]

a ViciousFerret wrote...

Barneyk wrote...

The only "cancer" is people complaining about stuff that doesnt effect them...

Did you read the OP? It does affect us, because we can't find normal matches anymore...

Kids don't bother to read.

[Pitznik]

Star fury wrote...

Sometimes my friends are busy and I play pub matches. And guess what pops up in 9 out of 10?

Host your own game.

OR

Search for something that isn't FBW, or something that isn't Geth. What do you care about "random" anyway, suppose you play gold with mostly 20s or close to 20, since promoting hardly makes any sense.

[D4rk50ul808]

There is a search function for a reason. Why not just select Cerberus or Reapers. Whiners will whine I suppose, I never have problems not doing FBW Geth.