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[GodlessPaladin]

Grenadier talk only now!

Hmmm, next time I get some spare respec cards I'll try this out.  It seems like an interesting concept.  Still, I'm not sure it'd be my cup of tea, just because I already can mow down hoards of troopers and it seems like it would do far less damage to heavies.

What if you used a Hurricane or something instead of the Carnifex for heavies?  I never really found the Carnifex great at killing heavies, and Cryo Ammo helps with the armor.

What do you do about Guardians?  They seem like a speedbump for a Falcon that doesn't pierce armor, just because hitting shots around the shield carefully interrupts your whole general bombardment flow, as would switching to the Carnifex.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[DSxCallOfBooty-]

Seems like an interesting build. I've had a hard time using the GI because it dies so quick, but I've recently been interesting in building it around Proxy Mine.

Not sure if it'll replace my now-standard Salarian Infiltrator though, Energy Drain is just so good (especially against Geth).

[GodlessPaladin]

Just tried again with the Scorpion. Unlike the Falcon, you aim it pretty much the same way you do the Proximity Mine (at their feet!), and the Proximity Mine stuns enemies long enough for the bombs to go off. 

The delay and rather unreliable nature of the quick detonation method can be a bit frustrating, and it's just plain weird to use, but it's pretty hiiarious to watch.  So there's that.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 29 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[aaronisbla]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...


The newly buffed proxy mine does something like 1500 damage out of cloak over a 4,5 m radius and also debuffs targets. With tactical cloak you can spam it every 4-5 seconds, so it's like a endless supply of strong grenades.

i like this build, something fun to try, as i was looking for more weapons to try out on him, did the kishock on him, was pretty fun, but this one was awesome. one thing id like to note is i don't think it does 1500 out of cloak since the cloak is increasing the base damage which is 400 for the proxy mines by 90%, but i could be wrong

[aaronisbla]

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Modifié par aaronisbla, 29 avril 2012 - 07:40 .

[Whufpack]

Just tried it. This build is da bomb, yo! Ahahahahaha GET IT?!??!

[evermandibles]

Tried it to get the feel of it on Bronze. Caught whiff of the potential. Took it to Silver and started to feel an uprising of power from my loins. Brought it to Gold and am having a blast.

I've had the GI for a while not but never used it until I read your post. May respec it, eventually, to try some of the shotgun GI builds.

Anyway, fun fun!

[Elite Argonian]

Just tried the build(although I used a Geth Pulse Rifle and an Eviscerator) and I don't think I've seen Cerberus go down so quickly. Also, using it made me realize that I underestimated the Prox Mine

[A Wild Snorlax]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Grenadier talk only now!

Hmmm, next time I get some spare respec cards I'll try this out.  It seems like an interesting concept.  Still, I'm not sure it'd be my cup of tea, just because I already can mow down hoards of troopers and it seems like it would do far less damage to heavies.

What if you used a Hurricane or something instead of the Carnifex for heavies?  I never really found the Carnifex great at killing heavies, and Cryo Ammo helps with the armor.

What do you do about Guardians?  They seem like a speedbump for a Falcon that doesn't pierce armor, just because hitting shots around the shield carefully interrupts your whole general bombardment flow, as would switching to the Carnifex.

i don't have the hurrcane so that's a problem. I will say though that with the fire rate boost from hunte mode and all the weapon damage upgrades in networked AI the heavies actually die really fast when you hit them with maxed proxy mines and then spam them with the carnifex, you take off something like one bar of armor on the atlas with each shot which is not bad at all, especially considering the atlas has the most health out of all the heavies, and you get each shot of faster with the hunter mode rof boost. I was actially suprised at how fast they went down to the carnifex on this GI build.

As for guardians, I just shoot a proxy bomb behind them, that takes away most of their health, then you just need to hit them once with the falcon to kill them. They really werent a problem when I was playing cerberus, just proxy mine them from behind and then spam them a few times with the falcon and they die.

[A Wild Snorlax]

I might actually whip out my PVR and record some of the later rounds of a gold game using this setup just to show how good it can be. Now if only my PC wasn't so terrible at rendering.....

Also I did some calculating on the carnifex vs heavies. With 22,5% racial damage boost, 25% from barrel, 15% from hunter mode, 20% debuff and 90% from tac cloak you're doing over 2000 DPS with the carnifex when not headshotting, which would explain why I was killing atlases so fast. with hunter mode 15% fire rate increase you shoud be able to get 4 cloaked shots off per cloak assuming the cloak bonus lasts 2.5 seconds. Add proxy spam into the equation and you have a good way of dealing with heavies.

Edit: after doing some numbers on the hurricane I think it's safe to say that would work exellent for heavies as well, if smg's can have piercing mods? I don't remember if they can or not. If not then the whole 50 damage lost per shot would kind of ruin it.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 29 avril 2012 - 12:03 .

[Geist.H]

How is this possible ?

We all know that the Falcon is utterly useless since nerf, always dud, does no DPS and has absolutely no synergy with Tech abilities unlike WIDOW/REVENANT !!!1111eleven

/sarcasm

Well done OP, the Striker is also quite fun with the GI, HM accuracy and rate of fire boosts synergize a lot with it, an entiere clip does 75% damages to an Atlas Armor/Shield, basic troops are mowed down effortlessly.

[john-in-france]

I think that I may give that a go. I've tried the standard widow/shottie Geth Infi and just don't sync well with it. This may work for me...bit worried about the Hunter Mode and headaches though. The colours make me wince.

Thank you

[TheMightyG00sh]

Have you ever thought of forgoing Advanced Hardware? The Geth's shields are comparable to butter in a cooker with Hunter Mode on. This would let you pump some points into Cloakshield boost does little to nothing for your durability,

[A Wild Snorlax]

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Have you ever thought of forgoing Advanced Hardware? The Geth's shields are comparable to butter in a cooker with Hunter Mode on. This would let you pump some points into Cloakshield boost does little to nothing for your durability,

I would take 22,5 % weapon damage boost and 25% power damage over 25% more shields personally.

With rank 4 fitness it's not that bad, especially if you use shield power cells or a cyclonic modulator.
Also, the difference between rank 4 and 6 fitness is not very noticable on gold, you are still very squishy with a hunter mode geth and rely more on shield/health gate and hunter mode's extended vision and speed to stay alive than your actual shields. Therefore I'd much rather have extra damage output. The faster I can kill the enemies the less chance they have to shoot me/overrun my team.

I also use shotguns on this build when I'm not doing the falcon strategy so that's another reason why I take weapon damage.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 29 avril 2012 - 12:50 .

[kumquats]

Thanks for sharing this build.
There is no way I'm going to go back to meele, sniper or claymore after this. ^.^

[Pichsterz]

Thanks for the build. Too many god damn awesome GI builds and not enough Respec cards.

[A Wild Snorlax]

kumquats wrote...

Thanks for sharing this build.
There is no way I'm going to go back to meele, sniper or claymore after this. ^.^

Awesome!

And on a side note, I took this guy for a solo run on silver. I know silver is easy, I was just bored and waiting for a friend. Finished it in 23 minutes, didn't go down once, and I wasn't using equipment.

I tried it on a gold solo run right after, wiped at wave 10 when I got the stupid activation mission on firebase white though vs cerberus after spendiing all my medi gel in the earlier round after some silly mistakes. On another note I'd only played for 31 minutes when I wiped and I was playing kind of sloppy so that should give you an idea of the damage this setup's capable of dealing.

I'll try to put up some footage maybe tomorrow as I do have an hd pvr to record my gameplays that i haven't used in ages

[kumquats]

If you make a video, could you not use any music? Or maybe make some commentary, that would be awesome.

[a ViciousFerret]

Damn, I must try this build.

[civheaded]

RaptorSolutions wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Yeah. Bioware really should cap character cards and bring back uncapped respec cards.

Then people will complain about getting endless respec cards.

Tbh I don't really see the problem having tons of those... then I can respec my GI whenever I want.

They ended respec cards to encourage promoting.

[civheaded]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

The Geth Grenadier.

class: Geth infiltrator

Tac cloak 4: damage
Hunter mode 6: recharge (doesn't matter though), rate of fire, speed and vision
Proxy mine 6: radius, damage taken, damage
Networked AI 6: weapon damage, power damage, weapon damage
Advanced hardware 4: all shields

Weapon: Falcon X with barrel and extended clip
Carnifex X as secondary with barrel and AP mod (purely for killing heavy armored units as falcon sucks at that)

If you have ammo effects like cryo or incendiary ammo the proxy mines can trigger fire/cryo explosions too which makes the whole thing even more awesome.

Oh and did I mention that the cloaked proxy + falcon combo staggers everything? You can easily stagger banshees enough to stop them from teleportiing when hitting them with this.

Equipment used to make this setup more awesome: incendiary ammo, AR rail amp, shield module or power amplifier.

Go try it out guys! I promise you won't be dissapointed, it's a very fun and very effective setup. I recommend hosting to make the most of it though.

Currently respecing my GI.  Thanks for the tip.

[aaronisbla]

its starting to feel like there isn't too many weapons that the GI can't turn into weapons of mass destruction. Im gonna assume he'd be awesome with disruptor ammo as well for easy tech bursts.

Gold feels like silver

Modifié par aaronisbla, 29 avril 2012 - 03:28 .

[No Snakes Alive]

This build actually sounds pretty awesome. I tried the Falcon once and couldn't stand it but I'm ready to give it another shot, so anyone got any tips on usage for a Falcon noob, ie aiming for the enemy or at their feet and so on?

My Falcon's at X now just like every other Gold weapon there is (whereas my N7's are almost non-existent past I; thanks so much redundant, useless character cards!) so I should be able to replicate the success.

[palker]

Just tried it today. I use paladin instead of carnifex with EB and extended clip. I speced the proximity mine to do max damage so that is 960 + 504 from cloak + 84 from hunter mode 1548 and if you use it on a weakened target that is another 192 points of damage on top of that. It kills everything real fast.

[AwesomeDudex64]

I don't have a GI but if someone could post a vid, that'd be great.