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What if the EC is awesome?


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#76
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I don't understand what you people mean by "Will it be awesome?".

It is going to be an an in depth, fleshed in, more informed version of the ending; nothing more.

Nothing is going to be done about the lack of ANY significance of ANY prior choice made through the series.

Nothing is going to be done about the fact that it is still just an A,B or C ending. All of the Dev promises about varied and unique endings will be left unanswered.

Nothing is going to be done to change that no side quest matters except to add to the War Assets.

Get it into your heads, nothing is going to change. You WILL get a mildly interactive explanation of 'space magic' and 'making a new DNA' and why your team was on the Normandy and hopping through a relay.

Thinking anything else is just a dream since Bioware told you this in the press release.

Modifié par ParkerArt, 29 avril 2012 - 07:12 .


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gigliani60

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If it is awesome i reckon people will still moan about how it should have been there anyway. People ALWAYS look for reasons to moan, not reasons to compliment

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It would make up some lost reputation, but not all of it.

Some people might think that this was planned all along. Pushing out an unfinished game sooner for profit and making up reputation or even gaining more reputation with free DLC.

A calculated gamble for greed.

Might be far fetched but many things that are now true appeared far fetched once upon a time.

I can not believe that noone saw how unsatisfying and low quality the complete last mission and finale of the trillogy are. The company that showed me the importance of a great ending (ME1) that brought great chapters like Tuchanka and Rannoch, not knowing how different and bad the last section was is impossible for me to believe. Otherwise all the good parts appear like lucky accidents.

Modifié par DaJe, 29 avril 2012 - 07:17 .


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Then I hope Bioware will welcome me back in warm arms.

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I liked ME2's Act 3: Suicide Mission. It's probably the best gaming segment in history as far as I'm concerned. Yet, it could have been better if they had cut out more dialog. Yes, LESS DIALOG for the final act. The only dialog that act needed was the assignment dialogs(fire fight leader, hacker, biotic shield, etc.) and the final one regarding the base.

IF, by the last act, you character still does not have a personality, it's too late. I don't want to make yet another paragon or renegade or any choice about something or other.

I want my character to get down to business and make only essential decissions.

ME3's final act was to drawn out and laid back. It lacked adrenalin all the way through, except when fighting 6 Banshees and 100 Maruaders and 1000 Cannibals.

If the EC adds a mess of dialog to the final act, I'll get bored every time I have to dialog.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 29 avril 2012 - 08:03 .


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 Then I will be buying every single piece of gameplay DLC for the game. I will replay it over and over and constantly tell all friends to buy the series until they buy it.

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So...If I had some more feces to a preexisting pile of feces, it becomes less fecal?

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BioWare could give everyone a million dollars and a pony.

People would still **** about it.

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I hate this ending talk. Not because I think it is stupid infact infact I feel the complete opposite, but because all the other problems many are having with the game such as the Railroading, Lack of choice etc. are just completely overshadowed by the ending. Many people do think that 99% of the game is perfect but I disagree with that statement more than the endings itself.

I understand that we need to keep pushing with the endings, but when the ending is fixed (if ever), it still will not make any difference with eveything leading up to it. Feel free to disagree with me though, I like a discussion!

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Father_Jerusalem wrote...

BioWare could give everyone a million dollars and a pony.

People would still **** about it.


Some people have opinons that differ from yours.

You're still going to be a hot-headed bigot until you accept that.

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Well, that would be a pleasant surprise indeed. I would then move on to complain about the other stuff I didn't like about the game (mostly bugs, not story-based). Because as poster #3 said: Humans are never satisfied.

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Legion_IV wrote...

I hate this ending talk. Not because I think it is stupid infact infact I feel the complete opposite, but because all the other problems many are having with the game such as the Railroading, Lack of choice etc. are just completely overshadowed by the ending. Many people do think that 99% of the game is perfect but I disagree with that statement more than the endings itself.

I understand that we need to keep pushing with the endings, but when the ending is fixed (if ever), it still will not make any difference with eveything leading up to it. Feel free to disagree with me though, I like a discussion!


This. In my opinion there's no difference between those that thought the ending was great and those that believed ME3 was 'perfect' except for the ending. I disagree with both of these sentiments. Yes, the endings sucked, but there was a whole bunch of other stuff outside the ending that made ME3 mediocore in my opinion.

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simfamSP wrote...

Let's just put all our doubts and negative opinions on the ec for a second, and think if it really IS awesome? It pulls a freaking great plot twist, there are different endings and it basically out does it's self...

Will it rekindle BioWare's rep? It's been pretty damanged as of late. The ME3 endings and DA2 was kick to the quad, so do you really think that 30/40 min of hopefullly awesome new content would bring back BioWare from that hole it's dug it's self in?

Please, I want an opinion without bias. I know alot of people are still angry, and I understand that. BioWare hasn't been handling the whole thing as best as they could have. But this is something that interests me.


It wont be awesome.

It will be 'good' at best.

Why?

- No new gameplay (which Priority: Earth desperately needs).
- Starchild and his twisted logic remain.
- Red/Blue/Green still remain.

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Legion_IV wrote...

I hate this ending talk. Not because I think it is stupid infact infact I feel the complete opposite, but because all the other problems many are having with the game such as the Railroading, Lack of choice etc. are just completely overshadowed by the ending. Many people do think that 99% of the game is perfect but I disagree with that statement more than the endings itself.


Well, if you want to discuss those things instead you probably shouldn't be hanging out in a thread about the EC. We had a pretty good exploration thread going last week.

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My guess is that it will depend on how far gone the individual player is. If they have worked themselves up into a hatred anger over ME3s endings, then how awesome the EC might be won't even matter to them.

They are enjoying the hatred right now more than they care about the game, which is why you see threads trying to find even MORE petty things that are wrong with the game on a daily basis. Their anger is starting to fade and they are looking for anything they can to keep it going.

The EC won't help those people. A truly great EC release though, will help those of us who simply wanted more answers, and less of a cliffhanger for what is supposed to be the end of the series.

Honestly, they could just produce a statement that says that they changed their mind and ALL will be answered in Mass Effect 4.. That alone would be sufficient for me.

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Ghost-621 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

BioWare could give everyone a million dollars and a pony.

People would still **** about it.


Some people have opinons that differ from yours.

You're still going to be a hot-headed bigot until you accept that.


You accuse me of being a bigot because I like the endings. You constantly throw around the term "BioBigot" to describe anyone you don't like. You accuse Planned Parenthood of murdering infants. 

Yeah, uh, this is the first and only time I will ever respond to you. You're a hateful little person and I have no interest in even trying to talk to you. Please, continue on spewing your vileness and vitriol at people, I just won't take the bait.

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ill play ME4.

i certainly wont buy it, but ill rent it.

ie already played the best ME game anyways (ME1).

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 29 avril 2012 - 09:29 .


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gigliani60 wrote...

If it is awesome i reckon people will still moan about how it should have been there anyway.

And they'd be right to complain. No one should be satisfied with inconclusive endings.

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gigliani60 wrote...

If it is awesome i reckon people will still moan about how it should have been there anyway. People ALWAYS look for reasons to moan, not reasons to compliment


Can you really blame them?

We were promised an ending where your choices mattered, that was not simply A, B, C. That there would not simply be a 'Reaper off button' (aka deus ex machina).... Yeah we all remember how that turned out.

So now they MIGHT be fixing the ending. Even if they do a good job that still doesn't excuse the fact they blatantly lied to the fans and sold us a game with an ending that is among the most terrible, badly written endings in history. And so while BioWare deserves a compliment IF they fix the ending in the EC, I think it's justified people still complain about it since this really should've been in the game at launch.

The lesson for BioWare will remain: Don't release an unfinished game. Apparently they didn't learn this lesson from DA2 so we simply need to remind them.

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I have high hopes for it. I personally didn't see much wrong with the ending. I actually thought nothing of it until I saw all the hate threads

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It doesn't matter. Some will hate it by virtue of it's existence, others will nitpick it to death, and the rest will continue to cry over spilled milk.

Modifié par Atakuma, 29 avril 2012 - 09:45 .


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Legion_IV wrote...

I hate this ending talk. Not because I think it is stupid infact infact I feel the complete opposite, but because all the other problems many are having with the game such as the Railroading, Lack of choice etc. are just completely overshadowed by the ending.


The thing is that they are different levels of problems, every game have flaws causing varying degrees of concern. If you game you learn to work around them if you like the game itself.
The ME3 ending isn't merely flawed and poorly crafted, (even though it's that too) the thing that cause the uproar is the total disregard for mass effect experience itself. If you aren't familiar with the mass effect universe you likely find it mediocre forgettable, If you have followed shepard's journey and the universe around him/her the ending is a mockery, further compounded by BW unwillingness to recognize it.

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Atakuma wrote...

It doesn't matter. Some will hate it by virtue of it's existence, others will nitpick it to death, and the rest will continue to cry over spilled milk.


Didn't read the OP, but I agree with this ^

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AlanC9 wrote...

Legion_IV wrote...

I hate this ending talk. Not because I think it is stupid infact infact I feel the complete opposite, but because all the other problems many are having with the game such as the Railroading, Lack of choice etc. are just completely overshadowed by the ending. Many people do think that 99% of the game is perfect but I disagree with that statement more than the endings itself.


Well, if you want to discuss those things instead you probably shouldn't be hanging out in a thread about the EC. We had a pretty good exploration thread going last week.


What I was trying to say was that no matter how good the EC DLC is, the other problems will still exist throughout the game and my stance on it riding on the back of the previous 2 games will still remain. I am trying to remain optimistic however and I am hoping that the EC will resolve many of my issues I had with the ending, but I am not getting my hopes up. 

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gigliani60 wrote...

If it is awesome i reckon people will still moan about how it should have been there anyway. People ALWAYS look for reasons to moan, not reasons to compliment


*stands up and claps hands