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[Smitridel]

After setting aside the Single Player Capaign in favor of the Multiplayer for a month or so, I thought I'd give it a go and finish the game and see what that fuss was all about.
(Note that I havent read or heard any of the endings analysis before completing the game, just the general idea that fans were dissaponted with the ending.)

So.
Final moments.
Congratulations are in order to the writing panel of the game!

While I do understand that some people may be dissaponted and/or be enraged with the non-happy endings and the lack of choise in the matter, I found the ending...incredible (By the way, I chose to destroy them)

All that mind-boggling situation where the game sets you, even after you finished it  and start searching, analysing theories, creating arguments while taking into account the game as a SERIES and as a whole (see: Indoctrination Theory) and not as a standalone part, is the most satisfying metagaming experience.

Having said that, although I may be one of the few, I'll gladly declare that Im fully satisfied with the product as a whole series.
Kudos Bioware! You did one hell of a job writing that masterpiece of a story!




P.S. I proudly belong to the generation having enjoyed Fallout 1,2, Baldur's Gate and such products in their prime time, that are nowadays considered epic in terms of storytelling and rpg elements. 
I'll gladly note that game down on this list.

Modifié par Smitridel, 29 avril 2012 - 12:10 .

[Catroi]

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[The Angry One]

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

[AlexXIV]

Yeah congrats Bioware, for this masterpiece. And let me add ... LOL.

[Smitridel]

And that meme is supposed to mean...?

[GLR-0053]

[Catroi]

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

Right uh? I do't know who's worst, the ones happy with a non-sensical ending or the one clinging to IT (the last one is more sad than anything else actualy )

[Captain_Obvious_au]

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

To be fair, we don't know if Bioware intended IT in the first place or not. There's a lot of evidence to support it, I guess we'll find out in the ending DLC.

[Ponei]

[AlexXIV]

Catroi wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

Right uh? I do't know who's worst, the ones happy with a non-sensical ending or the one clinging to IT (the last one is more sad than anything else actualy )

The answer is those who do both.

[DJBare]

I get that people can enjoy the ending, but masterpiece?

[Smitridel]

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

Any ending that motivates an entire customer database to construct entire theories about what happened, if that actually happened, what was the meaning of that and so on, is the metagaming element, which in terms of gaming experience, I find it very rare.

People still try to prove what the ending was about even after they've finished it right?

[LastFadingSmile]

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

You just don't understand, man; Bioware is so meta. Gawd.

[AlexXIV]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

To be fair, we don't know if Bioware intended IT in the first place or not. There's a lot of evidence to support it, I guess we'll find out in the ending DLC.

There is no evidence. There are hints that support it, that's all. It could as well just be coincidence. People reading more into things than there is. Which is not exactly new or unexpected to human nature.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Go on...

[The Angry One]

Smitridel wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

Any ending that motivates an entire customer database to construct entire theories about what happened, if that actually happened, what was the meaning of that and so on, is the metagaming element, which in terms of gaming experience, I find it very rare.

People still try to prove what the ending was about even after they've finished it right?

This is a game with an actual storyline that worked in-universe for the most part, if I want to metagame I'll play Dark Souls.

You're not invested in the storyline, the fact that you played multiplayer for a month without caring about SP proves that, so you don't care. That doesn't make the ending good. That makes the ending tolerable, to you.

[Smitridel]

DJBare wrote...

I get that people can enjoy the ending, but masterpiece?

I was reffering the game series as a whole.

[AlexXIV]

Smitridel wrote...

And that meme is supposed to mean...?

Well the fact that you don't understand means it's a masterpiece, no? I take that as a compliment.

[Pelle6666]

If you are serious then, good for you! I wish I was physically able to feel the same way.
But yea... if IT proves to be true or other vice as well if you just choose to pretend that it is then it really is a masterpiece. I'm not satisfied with the current ending though.

[Russalka]

For all this talk of worthless opinions, people do care a lot.

[GLR-0053]

Smitridel wrote...

DJBare wrote...

I get that people can enjoy the ending, but masterpiece?

I was reffering the game series as a whole.

"Ingenious Ending! Congratulations for this masterpiece."

Your title says otherwise, but seriously glad you liked it though. <3

[The Angry One]

I'm sorry, but if the Extended Cut turns out to be IT (I'm sure it won't) then all it will show is that BioWare copied a fan theory and made it canon.

The window where BioWare could have proved that IT was their plan all along has come and gone. It's too late.

[ItsNotMyProblem]

OP has been indoctrinated

[AlexXIV]

The Angry One wrote...

I'm sorry, but if the Extended Cut turns out to be IT (I'm sure it won't) then all it will show is that BioWare copied a fan theory and made it canon.

The window where BioWare could have proved that IT was their plan all along has come and gone. It's too late.

It's not goint to be IT. You don't even have to worry. It will be additional cutscenes and probably dialogue to explain the things that we already think are stupid. I.e. more closure with companions in dialogue probably, why exactly Joker ran with the Normandy and you favorite squadmates/LI, and probably a ****** poor reason why the synthesis is good and synthetics are bad.

Yeah, right now I think the EC will make things worse, not better. And considering Bioware's most recent writing history it is the most likely thing to happen.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 29 avril 2012 - 12:28 .

[Smitridel]

The Angry One wrote...

Smitridel wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Clearly, any ending that motivates the fanbase to construct entire theories based on the premise that it never happened is good, right?

Double-facepalming right now.

Any ending that motivates an entire customer database to construct entire theories about what happened, if that actually happened, what was the meaning of that and so on, is the metagaming element, which in terms of gaming experience, I find it very rare.

People still try to prove what the ending was about even after they've finished it right?

This is a game with an actual storyline that worked in-universe for the most part, if I want to metagame I'll play Dark Souls.

You're not invested in the storyline, the fact that you played multiplayer for a month without caring about SP proves that, so you don't care. That doesn't make the ending good. That makes the ending tolerable, to you.

I wouldnt be too quick to jump into conclussions about me being not invested in the storyline.

The fact that I didnt have enough time to invest on a continuous SP campaign (it's the only way I enjoy a story base RPG) due to work commitments, led me to enjoy single matches with a friend and Public Matches that only took 20-40 minutes each, and were a pleasure on their own terms.
Plus I was under the impression that the Expansion DLC was coming out this Easter so I waited I fair amount of time to complete it and judge it as a whole.

P.S. I've played the First game 6 times, the second one 4 times. So yeah, I'd say I might be a little invested into the storyline. I just take my time to enjoy it.