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N7 Hurricane; The First Viable SMG


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VossPiety

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PRO'S

Highest rate of fire of any SMG. (tip: sweeping fire across a brute will blow all of his armor plates off in seconds)
Highest damage of any SMG
Slightly less weight than an equal level carnifex
Fast reload
Excellent clip size and reserve ammo when using magazine and heat sink upgrades
With SMG rail amp and AP ammo the gun does good (not great) damage to any gold enemy (gold shieldless prime can be taken down in one clip with heat sink and clip upgrade and a high number of head shots).

CON'S

Muzzle climb that will be unacceptable for many people (hip fire is more controllable than aiming down the sights and hip fire from cover is needed to be useful at medium range)
Zero long range usefulness
Eats ammo without the heat sink upgrade
Has a bug where the last bullet will not fire requiring the gun to be reloaded twice to fix (or just reload before the clip
empties)
Ammo power and SMG rail amp are needed to make the gun stand out
Some kind of decoy, crowd control or distraction is necessary
to come out of cover long enough to do good damage

Summary
This is a niche gun that is a viable alternative to heavy pistols for weight conscious people who want considerably
more short range fire power than a pistol provides at the expense of long range usability. Being able to control the high muzzle climb and scoring head shots at close range is required to make the gun shine.





I've been playing with the Hurricane for just over a week now. I played a support Geth Engineer who used overload to strip shields and crowd control while using the turret to heal and distract and a carnifex to pop the heads off mooks at range. I would strip shields from primes and pyros and then wait for the biotics or infiltrator to finish them off. Brutes and ravagers were pretty much immune from the gun and the turret was slow on them. Switching to the Hurricane opened up a whole new facet to the GE. Now I can switch from support to very aggressive gun play. With a turret to distract and heal and overload to chain stun I can enter a room of full centurions/troopers or marauder/cannibals and mow them down with the hurricane. While it is still faster for the biotic or infiltrator to plow through the armor on brutes and atlases and such now I can take them down solo if I need to. With a rail amp and AP3 ammo head shots to brute will almost melt him. The thing that makes the Hurricane work is the ability to come out of cover or into the open long enough to squeeze off several seconds of fire. The turret and the overload stun let this happen on the GE. Also because the Hurricane is about worthless at long range I almost never am the target of brutes or banshees. When they get close they are chasing someone who has been plinking at them for a while so I can sit back and unload lots of
fire into their noggins. The other thing I like about the Hurricane is that even with a silly high rate of fire, with the mag and heat sink you can put out a huge amount of fire before going to the ammo crate.



A lot of people bash the Hurricane and not without reason. It has many disadvantages. It isn't a good all around weapon. It is a niche weapon but within that niche it does it's job very very well and it is a super fun gun. It's replaced my carnifex on my AA and GE. Next week I want to try it with marksmen and see if it can be turned into something  useful at longer ranges.




edit: wtf formating lol, needs preview

Modifié par VossPiety, 29 avril 2012 - 05:48 .


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MAXinsanity409

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LONG POST IS LONG.

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IonSilverbolt

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I seen a SE in a game yesterday using this gun. He was tearing up enemies left and right with it. I'm not sure what consumables he was using besides stability mod 3, but whatever else he was using, it worked.

Modifié par IonSilverbolt, 29 avril 2012 - 05:32 .


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Wesus

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Hmm idk what I just saw.

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Egh, formatting multifail much?

That aside, it's not the "first viable SMG". Hornet was great from the beginning, and like the Hurricane, it got buffed. The Hurricane does have lower rate of fire but also a much higher damage per bullet than the Hornet, giving it a higher DPS than the Hornet. But that in no way makes the Hornet a slouch, it is still in the top echelons of DPS charts. Also, even though some still complain about it, Hornet's recoil is far easier to manage, making it better against normal-sized targets at longer ranges than the Hurricane. Hurricane is great against large armored targets by comparison. But in any case, this is a very limited comparison, and both are very good weapons.

And of course the special mention goes to Geth SMG as a secondary weapon due to being the only one with which ULM works.

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The Hornet and Tempest are both "viable" so long as you're not trying to use them on armor (on Gold).

Quite frankly for the weight of the Hurricane (at level 1), I'd rather carry my Tempest 10 and Carnifex 10 for slightly less weight.

Hurricane is a beast for Turian Soldiers and Geth Infiltrators though. Great SMG, hardly the only "viable" one however.

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Kedirakevo

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Can someone teach me how the heck you use a hornet? I find tempest blaring out rounds seem to be much more capable in DPS than a hornet where recoil is bad...

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Kedirakevo wrote...

Can someone teach me how the heck you use a hornet? I find tempest blaring out rounds seem to be much more capable in DPS than a hornet where recoil is bad...

Don't use aimed mode when you're not in cover. Learn that, and it's actually very easy to hit things with it.

Also, the Hornet does work quite well against armor (with weapon damage bonuses and barrel mod, Hornet X can do 500 DPS even on armor), but Hurricane works even better as long as the range isn't too long.

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AwesomeDudex64

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I disagree, the Hornet is pretty damn viable.

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VossPiety

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Hmm, lots of love for the hornet. The few times I tried it I hated it. I wonder now that I have a play style that works for a Hurricane that it would work with a Hornet. I'll have to give it a try.

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IonSilverbolt

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The hornet is very effective hip fired at close range. Better than a tempest easy. Once you get to medium+ range, the tempest takes over. When firing from cover with a scope and barrel, I can get a fair amount of long-range kills with a tempest.

If you have a stability upgrade or marksman, that changes things. Also, my tempest is X whereas my Hornet is only IV. It could be it will be more comparable once I get more levels on it.

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I like using a Tempest, but only with a Turian. Tempest plus AP ammo is so much fun- everybody is staggered and dying, and you can fire that thing into crowds and it's like they stepped on a beehive.

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BoomDynamite

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Hornet, GPSMG, and Tempest X are also viable.

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spidog132

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i was the hurricane on the cerberus vanguard with a secondary weapon, but i never even touched my secondary it was a pretty fun session.

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Biotic_Warlock

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MAXinsanity409 wrote...

LONG POST IS LONG.


*whispers* 
All caps reply is all caps.


Also Hurricane is apparently OP but i havent seen it enough... <_<

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Master Xanthan

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Geth Plasma SMG seems pretty viable to me.

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Lord_Ridel

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Hurricane: The BEST smg.

Even if I like the Hornet and Geth SMG lol...guess I defeated my hurricane claim.

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upinya slayin

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the hurricane 1 bullet isn't a glitch. each shot fires 2 rounds so 1 bullet means its empty in a sense.

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Atheosis

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God I am so tired of people misusing the word 'viable'.

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paincanbefun

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Atheosis wrote...

God I am so tired of people misusing the word 'viable'.


vi·a·ble/ˈvīəbəl/Adjective:Capable of working successfully; feasible
what's your problem? 

he's saying it's the first one that works at all.  is this an accurate statement?

not in my opinion.

is that what he actually means to be saying?

probably, yes.  in the OP's opinion, every other smg is not worth taking.

@OP: the tempest is a poor man's hurricane with better range and lower ammo consumption for way less weight.  i think it's viable too.  also, the geth gun actually benifits from ulm, so it fills a niche in that it only costs 3% cd.  also, the hornet works well at range, so for people less concerned about cd, it has a place.  but yeah, the hurricane is nice is you pretend it's a shotgun.  great for distributing modded ammo.

Modifié par paincanbefun, 15 juin 2012 - 05:58 .


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Hypertion

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i use the Hurricane at long range with all my characters and not just my Turians.

on my Turians with the stability mod the gun has no recoil at all. AT ALL. as a result its as accurate as some sniper rifles.

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ToaOrka

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Ahaha, you're funny. I prefer the Tempest. Y'know, because I can actually control it without consumables.

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Zombie Inc 91

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Love it on kroguard.

Like it on turian sentinel.

Hated it on turian soldier. The extra ROF from marksman makes it a pain to control. Prefer the revanent with AP and stability.

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paincanbefun wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

God I am so tired of people misusing the word 'viable'.


vi·a·ble/ˈvīəbəl/Adjective:Capable of working successfully; feasible
what's your problem? 

he's saying it's the first one that works at all.  is this an accurate statement?

not in my opinion.

is that what he actually means to be saying?

probably, yes.  in the OP's opinion, every other smg is not worth taking.

@OP: the tempest is a poor man's hurricane with better range and lower ammo consumption for way less weight.  i think it's viable too.  also, the geth gun actually benifits from ulm, so it fills a niche in that it only costs 3% cd.  also, the hornet works well at range, so for people less concerned about cd, it has a place.  but yeah, the hurricane is nice is you pretend it's a shotgun.  great for distributing modded ammo.


If he actually means that using other SMG's isn't doable/feasible that's almost worse than him using the word 'viable' wrong.

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Atheosis wrote...

If he actually means that using other SMG's isn't doable/feasible that's almost worse than him using the word 'viable' wrong.


um... well, if i say the other guns "suck", i don't mean that they do it literally, so i think you can (and most people here do) use "viable" as a metaphorical superlative.  i don't think that's incorrect either.

so, while i agree with you that other guns work, i don't think you can get too bent about picky language where some of the people here are not native english speakers and some of them are ten years old.

speaking of nerd words though, i do like the name "atheosis"

Modifié par paincanbefun, 15 juin 2012 - 06:18 .