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[nlag]

DJBare wrote...

"I've lost respect for this community. "

Not a good start, perhaps something like "I wish people would respect the opinions of others"?

What DJBare said.

@OP

You wanted to express your opinion for something yet you wrote a provokative title.

What did you expect? ... people to roll in here and say "YEAH!! you are right", "I apologize" and such?.

[FOX216BC]

Some people don't understand the difference between complaining and insulting.
And some do not understand the difference between being a loyal fan and being a yes-man.

[zRz Tyr]

Cool story bro....

[Ryven]

Well now my day is ruined. I had a bad week, but the only thing that kept me going was the fact that Commander Shepard the Grey Warden at least had respect for the community, but now that the respect from Commander Shepard the Grey Warden is gone, I don't know how I am gonna go on.

Seriously, there could be tears.

Modifié par Xydorn, 30 avril 2012 - 08:51 .

[GiarcYekrub]

FOX216BC wrote...
Some people don't understand the difference between complaining and insulting.
And some do not understand the difference between being a loyal fan and being a yes-man.

I have yet to see a valid argument  against the ending, every complaint I've seen has been inferred by the complainer,  taken in isolation and out of context with the rest of the game which builds to its climax all the way through or by totally unrealistic expectations

[Orumon]

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

I do apologize for this. I'm just very weary of having to defend my love for the series. People just assume that because I liked the endings I must be a COD player who's never played ME before. It's extremely heartbreaking.

What you seem to fail to realise, is that it's more than possible to love the series and hate the ending, because the ending as is does NOT connect with the rest of the series as a whole.

If the fans did not care, then the ending furore would have been non-existant. As it is, the folks are in uproar over a forced ending (choice? Not in Mac Walters vision for ME3s ending) and worse, a terse message saying BUY MOAR DLC. And it's in the same game as the amazing Tuchanka storyline conclusion.

[Elite Midget]

GiarcYekrub wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...
Some people don't understand the difference between complaining and insulting.
And some do not understand the difference between being a loyal fan and being a yes-man.

I have yet to see a valid argument  against the ending, every complaint I've seen has been inferred by the complainer,  taken in isolation and out of context with the rest of the game which builds to its climax all the way through or by totally unrealistic expectations

Than maybe you should start reading, there have been countless valid complaints since the leaks.

[Dendio1]

OP is trolling. People don't hate you for saying you like the endings. If you like it then fine so be it. If you want to to convince us to like the ending, lets see a good argument. If you don't care to convince anyone towards your way of thinking then fine so be it.

You've lost faith in the community? Fine, so be it. It's not our jobs to disprove your way of thinking, no matter how blatant the trolling.

Modifié par Dendio1, 30 avril 2012 - 10:12 .

[alienatedflea]

Comguard2 wrote...

So you're trying to provoke aggressive posts?

Never seen anything like you described. People who liked the ending didn't get it or didn't play ME1 + 2 - that's my opinion but not offensive. What you describe is worth banning someone from the boards.

So report those people, case closed. They are the minority.

You don't need to provoke when the dumb masses out there are already nerd raging to tbe point where its hard to see if any of those who are enraged actually have a point or not.

[Fnork]

Commander Shepard the Grey Warden wrote...

I like the endings. Now let's see if we can get through this forum without me being told how my children are going to die, I'm the next Hitler, and you're all going to come to my house and burn me alive. (The point to this forum is that while people who disliked the endings say they feel alienated, what they don't realize is that they themselves are committing the exact same crime by trying to bully people who do like the ending.)

Hyperbole much ? 

You've lost faith ? I'll survive and I think the community will too. Nobody is going to loose any sleep over you loosing faith.

If you like the ending that's fine by me and it's probably fine by a whole lot of other people too. There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

If you see a post that offends you just report it and move on. What are you going to do if someone says something to you in real life that offends you ? Talk to a psychologist about how you've lost faith ? Grow thicker skin. People will be people, some will be reasonable and others will not. Some will say smart things and some will say dumb things. Most will probably not say anything at all.

[KDD-0063]

FOX216BC wrote...

Some people don't understand the difference between complaining and insulting.
And some do not understand the difference between being a loyal fan and being a yes-man.

[rachellouise]

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Modifié par rachellouise, 30 avril 2012 - 10:37 .

[GiarcYekrub]

Elite Midget wrote...

GiarcYekrub wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...
Some people don't understand the difference between complaining and insulting.
And some do not understand the difference between being a loyal fan and being a yes-man.

I have yet to see a valid argument  against the ending, every complaint I've seen has been inferred by the complainer,  taken in isolation and out of context with the rest of the game which builds to its climax all the way through or by totally unrealistic expectations

Than maybe you should start reading, there have been countless valid complaints since the leaks.

I've read loads, and not one doesn't fall into one of the three catagories

1.been inferred by the complainer, 
2.taken in isolation and out of context with the rest of the game which builds to its climax all the way through
3.totally unrealistic expectations

Modifié par GiarcYekrub, 30 avril 2012 - 10:39 .

[Aylyese]

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

[Elite Midget]

Than you don't care what others think only what you think than if you see no validity in any of the many valid complaints. You aren't going to change your view, that's respectable but know that many disagree with you. Your points have been beaten to death many times by many of the so called "complainers" as you say they are, I will not waste my breath because you've already read all of those points that refute yours.

[Hanabii]

I'm going to FIND you! I'm going to FIND your CHILDREN and I'm gonna... well... I'm gonna FORCE them to play the ENTIRE ME Series (After forcing them to buy it with their own money). Then I'm going to make them SIT through the ending after beating the three games and I'm gonna watch them cry in DISMAY as the ending comes out only a sliver better then their average Anime.

THEN I am going to force them to... DIE OF OLD AGE!!!

[rachellouise]

Aylyese wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

That is what those posts come across as., and I'm pretty sure I'm posting here. Yep, I'm here.

Modifié par rachellouise, 30 avril 2012 - 10:43 .

[Fnork]

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Positive. Unless your thread got a few hundred pages you did not get a response from the majority. At best you've gotten a few responses from silly people you'd ignore in real life too.

[Elite Midget]

rachellouise wrote...

Aylyese wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

That is what those posts come across as., and I'm pretty sure I'm posting here. Yep, I'm here.

Not here they don't. Are you spending too much time on youtube?

[rachellouise]

Yes, I am positive, which is why I left the forums for a couple of weeks.

[Aylyese]

rachellouise wrote...

Aylyese wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

That is what they come across like

Ah, so they are posting perfectly reasonable posts in completely legible English and because you have decided you disagree with them, you see fit to degrade them as though tthey are illiterate idiots because it makes you feel better about yourself.

Check.

[Hanabii]

rachellouise wrote...

Aylyese wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

That is what they come across like

Look, if you're looking to be offended, any wall of text will have something that somehow personally applies to you.

Some people flame for liking the ending, some people flame for hating it. The truth be told, the internet is full of flamers who will flame for any given reason, not because they are right, but because your opinion differs from theirs. An irony considering that this style of group rarely has opinions that mesh well with each other leading to what is known as "The Troll Wars.'

[GiarcYekrub]

Elite Midget wrote...
Than you don't care what others think only what you think than if you see no validity in any of the many valid complaints. You aren't going to change your view, that's respectable but know that many disagree with you. Your points have been beaten to death many times by many of the so called "complainers" as you say they are, I will not waste my breath because you've already read all of those points that refute yours.

There are no valid complaints as far as I'm concerned so I have no idea which ones you are refering to.

[Noelemahc]

The point to this forum is that while people who disliked the endings say they feel alienated, what they don't realize is that they themselves are committing the exact same crime by trying to bully people who do like the ending

Unfortunately, there are as many bullies on the pro-ending side as there are on ours, if not more. But turning this thread into "our bullies are better than yours" isn't my point, my point "sort out your bullies first, then preach about ours". Aight? For myself I say this - I hate bullies in general and try to step in to stop them regardless of their sides.

I've read loads, and not one doesn't fall into one of the three catagories

1.been inferred by the complainer,
2.taken in isolation and out of context
with the rest of the game which builds to its climax all the way through
3.totally unrealistic expectations

Sadly, the same can be said of any pro-endings threads. All explanations offered either by the employee twitters or pro-enders fall into one of the three categories:
1. Information not available in the game (f.e. the fate of the Citadel's inhabitants post-Cronos).
2. Wild speculation based on "this is the only way it could have been" (f.e. any and all arguments on impossibility of conventional warfare trumping Reaper fleet at Earth if you have in excess of 7K EMS).
3. Overlooking or flat-out ignoring any and all outstanding plotholes or unresolved plot threads. (f.e. the contradiction between Starchild's words and everything Sovereign did, f.e. how does HELPING the Geth and Zha'Til destroy their creators - when neither originally wanted to do it - further the Reaper goals of preventing organics being destroyed by synthetics?)

Also, restating your words in the exact same order, but broken down into bullet points does not help get your point across. It only helps show that you have no valid arguments to present. Sorry.

Modifié par Noelemahc, 30 avril 2012 - 10:47 .

[rachellouise]

Hanabii wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

Aylyese wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There is no mob waiting to lynch anyone who says they like the endings.

Are you sure about that? Personally, I've said I'm okay with the endings, and the responses I've got from the majority of people on here are

ZOMG!, Did you even play da games?

You're and Idiot, c u can'tz see that it sux0rs.

IT iz da real ending stoopid

Give me valid reasons for your opinion

etc etc.

Wow.. Where have you been posting? Habbo? 

I have yet to come across a retaker that doesn't write in legible English.

That is what they come across like

Look, if you're looking to be offended, any wall of text will have something that somehow personally applies to you.

Some people flame for liking the ending, some people flame for hating it. The truth be told, the internet is full of flamers who will flame for any given reason, not because they are right, but because your opinion differs from theirs. An irony considering that this style of group rarely has opinions that mesh well with each other leading to what is known as "The Troll Wars.'

I'm not offened by it, TBH the only thing I have a problem with is being told I need valid reasons (determined valid or not by them) for my / opinion/. Which is why that one is quoted properly, and the others are just thrown away junk.

Modifié par rachellouise, 30 avril 2012 - 10:48 .