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Cryo84

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To quote the OP:



Consoles suck, they ruined my PC ivory tower and everyone needs to see my system specs in EVERY post I make!



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Demonic Spoon

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EA are evil. The devil in any other clothing is still the devil. That is what that company is. It is the devil, a blight on the gaming industry. Dragon Age was the first game branded with that revolting EA sign I have bought in many many years (I bought it very begrudgingly and only because I wanted to support Bioware). My girlfriend wanted me to buy her Sims 3 holidays or some sort of expansion (Probably got the name wrong, game doesnt interest me, but the latest Sims 3 expansion), and I said no. I refuse to hand over my hard earned money to these fiends. She ended up bullying me for my debit card and buying it anyway, but it wasnt me handing over my money, it was her.


Lets go down the list at some recent EA titles.



DA:O? I don't think I have to explain. Despite the forum whines, DA:O is considered the best single player RPG in years.



L4D2 (Great success, though EA was only a distributor here)



Red Alert 3? Played it; it's a very well-made game that has been supported quite well.



Battlefield series? Don't need to explain how successful -that's- been.



Sims 3? Same thing.





There was a time when the EA-hate bandwagon was worth jumping on. Their handling of the BFME series was ****ing terrible, for example. That time isn't now, though...they put out a lot of great games and I haven't seen them "ruin" anything for a long time.

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Demonic Spoon wrote...



EA are evil. The devil in any other clothing is still the devil. That is what that company is. It is the devil, a blight on the gaming industry. Dragon Age was the first game branded with that revolting EA sign I have bought in many many years (I bought it very begrudgingly and only because I wanted to support Bioware). My girlfriend wanted me to buy her Sims 3 holidays or some sort of expansion (Probably got the name wrong, game doesnt interest me, but the latest Sims 3 expansion), and I said no. I refuse to hand over my hard earned money to these fiends. She ended up bullying me for my debit card and buying it anyway, but it wasnt me handing over my money, it was her.

Lets go down the list at some recent EA titles.

DA:O? I don't think I have to explain. Despite the forum whines, DA:O is considered the best single player RPG in years.

EA was the publisher. Bioware made the game. doesn't count.

L4D2 (Great success, though EA was only a distributor here)

again, made by another studio.

Red Alert 3? Played it; it's a very well-made game that has been supported quite well.

i suppose this is a matter of personal taste, but i found it waaay too cartoonish. i couldn't even manage to finish the campaigns, except the soviet one, and i've been a C&C fan since the beginning.

Battlefield series? Don't need to explain how successful -that's- been.

in my experience, people find it fun for a bit, but tend to fall back on other games rather quickly. BF2142, for example
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Sims 3? Same thing.

ugh. i quit playing the sims after the first one, because it's nothing but a cash cow. one base game and tons of expansion packs.

There was a time when the EA-hate bandwagon was worth jumping on. Their handling of the BFME series was ****ing terrible, for example. That time isn't now, though...they put out a lot of great games and I haven't seen them "ruin" anything for a long time.


uhh, Spore? Spore looked WAY better when they first revealed it @ E3 than after it shipped. also, take a look @ C&C 4. it's a joke now. the only way of saving it is to completely redo the concept. Now, as ever, is a perfectly good time to bash EA.

Modifié par DomerPyle, 04 janvier 2010 - 05:43 .


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Basically it's like this - when EA starts messing with a studio, that studio's products start to slowly turn to ****. The speed of the ****ification is directly related to how much control EA has over the development process.



Supposedly (and it's a big supposedly), they have acknowledged this fact and claim to be "hands off" these days (or atleast admit that they screwed the pooch too much). Personally I think this is just PR unless they reorganized their company to keep these development house acquisitions as autonomous units.



I don't really think that they'll be able to resist the lure of messing with BioWare if they get a huge hit out of ME2. I think it'll be too much temptation for them at EA and they'll mandate some crappy licensed property on an unrealistic timeframe, completely fark it up and then close down the studio. Just like they did to Pandemic.



I mean really, that was just a couple years ago. I doubt they've changed that much since then, nor has enough water run under the bridge for reasonable people to forget it.


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EA are rubbish as a publishing company. They put to much influence into the games their developing companies sell.
I am also seeing less and less PC games on shelves in my local shops now due to consoles getting preferance. This will happen due to publishers being greedy and only developing for console or having console games released before the PC version.
I prefer to play games on the PC as you can do alot more with them like player made content or even make your own mods. Once your done with a game on console its over you may as well trade it in for the next new game. A big money drain which only makes money for the shops and publishers.

I dread Mass Effect 3 or the next DA:O game with the influence of EA behind them. I seen what EA did to Ultima Online and left the game because of the changes they made. I use to play when it was still owned by Origin.

EA should just let their developers run their studios and stay away from game design, let the designers make and write the games not accountants.

BioWare is the best RPG company on the market for computer games. All their game I have played I have loved and still play even today. With EA now in control I can see all this turning to **** and BioWare will start to be forced to make substandard games and then loose money which EA will then pull the plug. Happens each and everytime EA gets involved with a good developer studio.

Modifié par Relshar, 04 janvier 2010 - 09:22 .


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Demonic Spoon wrote...
Red Alert 3? Played it; it's a very well-made game that has been supported quite well.

I really must agree on this, I've played all C&C / RA / Dune titles, and RA3 was actually the first one in the series since C&C 1 that felt "complete" without any expansionset. From RA1 untill C&C3, all games without expansion just gave you the feeling that some things were left out. And the expansion happened to have just the units that you were missing in the basic game every single time. Which made an expansion not really expansion, but more like seperately sold "cutout" from a now incomplete game.

Okay, there was one exception to this rule during the Red Alert 1 - C&C 3 period: Dune - Emperor.
Dune Emperor did feel complete as a game, though perhaps wrapped up in a hurry after a lot of careful developement. Too finished to not release, but also to be abandoned shortly after release in favor of other projects (probably C&C2: Tiberian Sun, since a lot of features from Dune Emperor can be found back in C&C2).