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[ckriley]

 And that's not sarcasm either.  The ending I chose for my Sheperd made the most sense and wrapped up the series perfectly for me.  I should also mention that my EMS was something like 6100 and my galactic readiness was 90% by the time I got to the final battle due to doing a lot of multiplayer, so I'm not sure if that changed anything.  But I couldn't for the life of me understand what all the bickering was about.

I started a thread on here about a week ago saying I lost all my respect for this community because the ME3 I was playing see,Ed completely different than the one everyone was griping about.  You guys seemed to be hating for the sake of hating.  Everyone that posted in that thread kept saying, "get back to us after you've finished it".  Well, I finished it and I'm here to tell you the ending was outstandng.

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

Now, I don't know how the destruction or control endings are, but synthesis made the most sense for me.  And having those last moments with Andersen nearly brought me to tears.  Seriously.  And that's embarrassing to admit. Yes, there was definitely some vagueness to it.  And yes, I would like to know what became of my companions and the universe at large, but that's what the EC is for.

So, I stand by what I said.  I've lost all respect for this community.  The amount of hatred being heaped on the game just doesn't match the game I played.  Was it perfect?  No.  We're there things that bugged me?  Yes.  But did I find the game fun, exciting, and emotionally moving?  Absolutely.  In fact I was hoping BW didn't try to wrap everything up all nice and tidy at the end.  There HADto be loss.  The reapers were too massive for there not to be.
2. So. Thank you BioWare for this experience. I'm on my second play through and I can't wait to play it again.  Bravo!

[Pelle6666]

Obviously not that perfect. seams to be pretty frustrating to many people, me included.

[Kristofer1]

I disliked all options for the pure and simple reason that some of my choices from the game, that were major at the time, that would have huge repercussion had ZERO repercussions.

However, if you liked the ending then good that means Bioware still can make a game end on a solid step for some people. And that is what really matters. Afterall I disliked Jade Empires ending, and loved KotoR ending.

[wantedman dan]

I'm just going to address one point, and one point only:

This ending may have been a success for your character, but that gives you no right to paint the ending as a multilateral success as very few, if any, others played exactly the same as you.

THAT is why the ending is a failure.

[Jenonax]

I'm glad you liked it, really. Just know that if you've lost all respect for the community, understand that a lot of us have lost the respect of Bioware.

[clarkusdarkus]

game was crap, ending was crap

[SubAstris]

If you genuinely like it, that's great. The problem people have with the synthesis ending seems to be mostly due to the"space magic" involved which ME has not really been about. Also it would cause the homogenisation of races, which is against what ME stands for

[Isichar]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

game was crap, ending was crap

Thanks for that enlightened opinion.

[Cyne]

Not to say the game isn't awesome (it is), but the ending is genuinely weak. Look at this script of what the catalyst says, tell me if it all makes sense to you:

Catalyst: "The Crucible changed me. Created...new possibilities. I know you've thought about destroying us. You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want. Including the Geth. Even you are partly synthetic."

Shepard: "But the Reapers will be destroyed?"

Catalyst: "Yes, but the peace won't last. Soon, your children will create synthetics, and then the chaos will come back."

Shepard: "Maybe..."

Catalyst: "Or do you think you can control us?"

Shepard: "Huh. So the Illusive Man was right after all."

Catalyst: "Yes. But he could never have taken control...because we already controlled him."

Shepard: "But I can..."

Catalyst: "You will die. You will control us, but you will lose everything you have."

Shepard: "But the Reapers will obey me?"

Catalyst: "Yes. There is another solution."

Shepard: "Yeah?"

Catalyst: "Synthesis."

Shepard: "And that is?"

Catalyst: "Add your energy to the Crucible's. Everything you are will be absorbed, and then sent out. The chain reaction will combine all synthetic and organic life into a new framework. A new...DNA."

Shepard: "I...don't know."

Catalyst: "Why not? Synthetics are already part of you. Can you imagine your life without them?"

Shepard: "And there will be peace?"

Catalyst: "The cycle will end. Synthesis is the final evolution of life. But we need each other to make it happen. You have a difficult decision. Releasing the energy of the Crucible will end the cycle, but it will also destroy the mass relays. The paths are open. But you have to choose."

[The Angry One]

ckriley wrote...

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter. 

Herein lies the problem.
Read this next part carefully, this is simple but important.

Mass Effect is not The Matrix.

In fact I was hoping BW didn't try to wrap everything up all nice and
tidy at the end.  There HADto be loss.  The reapers were too massive for
there not to be.

Were the billions upon billions who already died not enough of you?
Did the whole galaxy have to pay the price to sate your bloodthirst?

Modifié par The Angry One, 29 avril 2012 - 08:39 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Shut up colin moriarty, I should have killed you in megaton.

[Isichar]

The Angry One wrote...

ckriley wrote...

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter. 

Herein lies the problem.
Read this next part carefully, this is simple but important.

Mass Effect is not The Matrix.

As it stands I think bioware is in denial that its even a game anymore. Seems like at this point they would much rather turn it into a movie franchise.

Us players are just holding Shepard down really.

Modifié par Isichar, 29 avril 2012 - 08:40 .

[Dragoni89]

Wtf you talking about? In the matrix trilogy every humans had a choice of
whether to continue living in the matrix or being free. Yeah that is a
bitter sweet ending with the protagonist. That is definitely not the
synthesis you ****ing moron.
Btw the matrix was garbage after the second and third. If mass effect 3 is similar to a fail than obviously it was a fail.
Only the first Matrix moview was good.

People wonder why ending likers get flamed?
Perfect ending? There are propbably 1000 articles and videos telling you where the probelms are. Attention grabbing troll stop posting in new threads. Go to the ending tread and post.

Modifié par Dragoni89, 29 avril 2012 - 08:48 .

[Podge 90]

ckriley wrote...

 I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.

"Artistic integrity"

[NUM13ER]

I understand you enjoyed it and fair enough but calling something perfect but admitting it had issues is a little contradictory. As you say the ending on disc was vague and lacked closure so saying that the EC will address such things doesn't help when the problems people have are what they have in front of them. Not what they might have in the future.

EDIT: You'd be hard pressed to find sci-fi fans who haven't seen the Matrix Trilogy. I see no reason why it's even remotely used as a defense of the ending of a videgame.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 29 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

You sir are entitled to your opinion, I just happen to disagree with it. "You guys seemed to be hating for the sake of hating" is false as most of us hate the ending because we love the game and simply don't find it a fitting conclusion.

Also OP  "I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix
trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost
to the letter. " you're making the assumption that just because one saw the matic trilogy one must automatically like it. I saw it I didn't like it.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 29 avril 2012 - 08:42 .

[hosen17]

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

[Zix13]

Pretty sure most of us have seen the Matrix, otherwise we wouldn't refer to starchild as the architect. It also may have escaped your notice that the endings of the second and third matrix movies were also widely hated. Also, people didn't all become cyborgs in the Matrix, so well done there.
Furthermore, you picked synthesis, thus I have a hard time taking you seriously, since you must not care too much about logic or ethics. You even went so far as to say synthesis made sense.
Also, don't tell me the ending was bittersweet. It was more bitter than fighting the reapers to the last would have been.

Modifié par Zix13, 29 avril 2012 - 08:41 .

[CronoDragoon]

Luckily no one cares about your respect. Threads like these are just as bad as the worst I've seen on the board, because the main purpose is not to celebrate your enjoyment of the ending but to condescend to others who did not enjoy it and made it known. Had you simply said "the ending fit my Shepard" then others would have said "it didn't fit for the vast majority of people" and that would have been that. Instead we have to listen to whining about people whining.

[Aaleel]

ckriley wrote...

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

I stopped reading here.  That ending brought the same WTF was that moment I had when I finished ME3.  

The first installment was the best in that series too.

[Rockpopple]

Sound and fury signifying nothing once again, TAO.

I'd applaud, but I've been applauding your posts for so long, they've gotten tired... =(

[MegaSovereign]

I don't like the auto-dialogue at the end.

Shepard seemingly agrees with the Catalyst no matter what in the cutscene, even if you decided to choose destroy.

Also, it's obviously not perfect. Even in your OP you say "that's what the EC is for." So obviously there is SOMETHING wrong with the ending if needs extra cutscenes to fill in the gaps.

The synthesis ending IMO was the worst one because it had the least amount of context. The Catalyst could have at least have said some tech mambo jumbo to make the process of "combining DNA (which synthetics lack anyway?)" seem less nonsensical. The effects/consequences of synthesis also should have been fleshed out more. All you see is Joker walking out glowing green. Does that mean he has networking capabilities now? Do organics all come equiped with wi-fi? We don't even know. All we can do is "speculate" .

Hopefully the EC clears that up.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 29 avril 2012 - 08:45 .

[Talogrungi]

A tip for the next playthrough; consider that the source of information that you're relying on is the entity that controls the Reapers and is directly responsible for the murder of an incomprehensible number of innocent people over an equally incomprehensible number of years.

Perhaps not the most trustworthy source?

Synthesis is surrender. Surrender is suicide.

You made the wrong choice OP .. you let the Reapers win .. but thanks for playing.

[Devil Mingy]

I have to say, I agree with you on one thing: Mass Effect 3's ending reminded me of the Matrix Revolutions, too.

In all sincerity, I'm happy you liked it. It's a shame that people not thinking exactly as you do aren't worthy of your  respect. I'm sure it's a major loss for the community.

[legion999]

Ha.