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[Lyrebon]

ckriley wrote...

Was it perfect? No.

Topic title...

The ending was perfect

Go away.

Also, The Matrix Revolutions was terrible.

[Aaleel]

Konfined wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

"Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people...better."

10 internets to the person who can name that movie.

But back on topic. This is one of the things I thought of when I thought about Synthesis, and it scares me that when you hear Bioware people comment on the endings it seems like this is the one that makes the most sense to them.

Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity, on board the Serenity while addressing the crew about the situation on Miranda. I want my internets in small change please. 

+10 internets for you.

I thought the browncoats were as rare as unicorns

[Konfined]

Aaleel wrote...

Konfined wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

"Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people...better."

10 internets to the person who can name that movie.

But back on topic. This is one of the things I thought of when I thought about Synthesis, and it scares me that when you hear Bioware people comment on the endings it seems like this is the one that makes the most sense to them.

Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity, on board the Serenity while addressing the crew about the situation on Miranda. I want my internets in small change please. 

+10 internets for you.

I thought the browncoats were as rare as unicorns

Wars long done.  We're just folk now.

[Archer610]

/sarcasm

It's a shame we don't have the technology to homogenize everyone on this planet, that would surely lead to peace and harmony.
hhmm.. maybe if we instead just seperated out all the undersireables, walled them off in compounds or something, maybe then the pure ones like me could have the peace and prosperity we deserve

/sarcasm off

[The Spamming Troll]

i didnt like that it ended with a deus ex machina.

everything i did didnt matter. i was plucked out of my own story, fed three different outcome choices, all of which i disagreed with, and then the game ended. id rather have died by harbingers blast adn let the battle unfold as it normaly would have without the whole catalyst thing. that would have been a satisfying acheivment for my shepard. seeing his choices and consequences lay out as intended. instead of "STARCHILD."

its easy for me to say i hated it, but im glad it somehow made sense to you.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 29 avril 2012 - 09:48 .

[ShepnTali]

ticklefist wrote...

So you're weird and think Matrix Revolutions and Mass Effect 3 have good endings. Not sure I need your respect.

Ya, I think I can somehow press on without this kind of respect. 

[The Angry One]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

For my Shepards who have united the geth and the quarians the three choices were solutions to a non-existent problem. Dieing for such a cause feels like Shepard was a martyr for a cause already won. A Don Quixote tilting at windmills.

Worse still 2 of those choices actively undermine that cause, and the remaining one changes nothing.

[ReXspec]

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-sarcasm- And now we see all the "pro-enders" start to come out of the woodwork. -sarcasm-

How threads like this haven't died from birth is completely beyond me.

[Taboo]

Flextt wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

 You've presented a rather poor case for yourself and have come across looking exatcly like Bioware has been treating you.

1. You assume for whatever reason that everyone's Shepard is the same.
2. You assume you know what Bioware wanted us to make out of their game.
3. You make disingenious assertions about things you cannot possibly have answers to.

What confuses me most is your lack of communication in this thread. You are either not interested in giving your opinion or are simply flame baiting.

I have yet to see one Pro-ender elcidate in clear detail the utter lack of perpicacity that the schizoid bull rush of the ending details. It makes me uncomfortable that people are so easily satiated when given something that insults their intelligence and they then use it to promote personal vanity.

I've seen this type of meta weirdness before. It's nothing new. It's been going on for well over forty years. I find your lack of knowledge in this area distrubing.

It is sometimes hard to accept, someone you respected fails.
It is also sometimes hard to accept, that there are people who simply care less than you or are less capable than you.
Or he and you are equals, but you fail to accept the schism for its sheer difference.

Correct. People are in denial. They think of it as a grand statement and refuse to accept it as it is. I've seen this behavior before. It's nothing new. I know people who like Andy Warhol's Empire because they like Andy Warhol. Empire is a nine hour film of a single thing, the Empire State Building. Some people think it's genius. Most see it for what it is. An insult to the audiences intelligence. A hack job. The culmination of so much hubris it literally glares back and the audience and demands it accept it as high art.

No.

[AIR MOORE]

ckriley wrote...... I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  ...

You do know that Matrix Revolutions (the "end" of the trilogy) was nearly universally panned, right, I mean right?


I mean... so I guess you're correct... it's just as good as that was... horrible.

[Mars8309]

ckriley wrote...

 And that's not sarcasm either.  The ending I chose for my Sheperd made the most sense and wrapped up the series perfectly for me.  I should also mention that my EMS was something like 6100 and my galactic readiness was 90% by the time I got to the final battle due to doing a lot of multiplayer, so I'm not sure if that changed anything.  But I couldn't for the life of me understand what all the bickering was about.

I started a thread on here about a week ago saying I lost all my respect for this community because the ME3 I was playing see,Ed completely different than the one everyone was griping about.  You guys seemed to be hating for the sake of hating.  Everyone that posted in that thread kept saying, "get back to us after you've finished it".  Well, I finished it and I'm here to tell you the ending was outstandng.

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

Now, I don't know how the destruction or control endings are, but synthesis made the most sense for me.  And having those last moments with Andersen nearly brought me to tears.  Seriously.  And that's embarrassing to admit. Yes, there was definitely some vagueness to it.  And yes, I would like to know what became of my companions and the universe at large, but that's what the EC is for.

So, I stand by what I said.  I've lost all respect for this community.  The amount of hatred being heaped on the game just doesn't match the game I played.  Was it perfect?  No.  We're there things that bugged me?  Yes.  But did I find the game fun, exciting, and emotionally moving?  Absolutely.  In fact I was hoping BW didn't try to wrap everything up all nice and tidy at the end.  There HADto be loss.  The reapers were too massive for there not to be.
2. So. Thank you BioWare for this experience. I'm on my second play through and I can't wait to play it again.  Bravo!

You lost respect for us? So tell me:
How do our allies get back to there planets and destroy the reapers since the Mass Rerlays were destroyed hm?
How is it that when your running into the beam She is slow but when in actual battle to the beam before being blasted by Harbringer; She was running fast?
Why is it only Shepard was alone? Where was her allies?
Since when the Citadel looked like parts of the Collector's ship and Shadow Broker's ship? Why couldn't Shepard shoot to kill the keeper?
Since you didn't choose destruction you would get the "perfect ending" which would be Shepard be taking a breath under rubble. How did she survive the fall from the Citadel in space where there is no oxygen to breath in and survive... While in ME2 in the beginning of the game Shepard died in space and falling into the planet's orbit?
And of the destroy option: Tell me how the geth included if you got Shepard to make peace between the Geth and the Quarians. Tali stated it would take centuries to get used to there home planet without the geths help. How does that make sense?

[Provo_101]

"but synthesis made the most sense for me"

Saren says hi.

Also, you say you haven't seen the other two endings? I assure you that Destroy makes more sense from "Shepard's perspective", "your" Shepard or "my" Shepard doesn't matter.

Starkid: "Hey buddy, tell you what, if you liquify yourself by jumping into that beam, everyone will turn partly synthetic! And uhh.. well.. you'll die and stuff, obviously. And OH! I almost forgot, it's TOTALLY the pinnacle of evolution, because that exists, and it can only go over well, you know, destroying certain religious beliefs, choosing the fate of everyone in the entire galaxy despite what they'd actually want, and basically turning everyone into Reapers, which is what that dude you killed a few years ago wanted, but who's keeping track of all THAT stuff, right?! ..... Oh and uhh... we'll TOTALLY leave you guys alone after this, yeah. You have my word, you can trust me, bro". 

Modifié par Provo_101, 29 avril 2012 - 10:05 .

[Lavits75]

You're comparing Mass Effect to the Matrix.. You're comparing synthesis, the merging of organics and synthetics, to a giant baby made of squid robots who strikes a deal between organics and synthetics WITH NO merging whatsoever.

I fail to see the correlation between the two. My question is: Do you think? At all? Ever?

[babachewie]

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

[spiriticon]

The Angry One wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

Well I think the one plus point for synthesis is that: Out of the 3 endings, it unfortunately is the one most likely to achieve the longest lasting peace for the universe. The crimes needed to achieve that peace though, are pretty horrific. Does the end justify the means?

But yeah, space magic + genetic rape does not, and will not ever sit well with me. I forced myself to pick synthesis once to see the ending and I actually felt morally repulsed.

No but really, ask youself. How will it achieve peace? Making everyone the same will not give any peace, that is the belief system of racists and crackpots.
Even people of the same race and culture, with the same backgrounds and the same beliefs will fight each other if for no other reason that they don't have anyone else to fight.

The Catalyst presents a false dilemma with a false solution.

Synthesis does not claim to achieve eternal peace on an inter or intra-organic species level. However, it will acheive peace with the Reapers because it will remove their only motive for existing. That's what the 3 games are about, finding a way to stop the Reaper threat. I think of it as a peace treaty with the Reapers on the most simplest of manners. Sort of like saying to them "Stop killing us and be a part of us".

There is still diversity in the universe in the sense that the different organic species maintain their own culture and genetic differences. The only thing that has changed is that everyone has a bit of robot in them (yuck).

[ShepnTali]

babachewie wrote...

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

Yes, it is

[Taboo]

ShepnTali wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

Yes, it is

He doesn't understand anything about the malleability of narrative. Disengage. Futher participation might..........

[babachewie]

ShepnTali wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

Yes, it is

no its not.

[AngryFrozenWater]

The Angry One wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

For my Shepards who have united the geth and the quarians the three choices were solutions to a non-existent problem. Dieing for such a cause feels like Shepard was a martyr for a cause already won. A Don Quixote tilting at windmills.

Worse still 2 of those choices actively undermine that cause, and the remaining one changes nothing.

Agreed.

[AlexXIV]

The reason why some people have no problems with the ending is the same reason why some people have no problem with alot of things in the world. They don't understand and they don't care. For you people it is enough that SOMEONE tells you that everything is alright, ANYONE. You probably wouldn't even dare to question someone who is telling you that. Yeah guess what, it's perfect for you. Because having no problems because you can't see them is perfect for you.

[babachewie]

Taboo-XX wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

Yes, it is

He doesn't understand anything about the malleability of narrative. Disengage. Futher participation might..........

You dont understand anything about when people say we arent changing the ending it means we arent changing the ending. 

Modifié par babachewie, 29 avril 2012 - 10:09 .

[MattFini]

ckriley wrote...

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

Unfortunately, I did see The Matrix trilogy.

I saw two films that should never have been made becuase they completely destroyed one brilliant and original movie.

I guess in that regard MASS EFFECT 3 does work the same way as the Matrix sequels.  It ruins everything that came before. 

[DJBare]

I have a question, before I ask it however, in my opinion a player can choose whatever they want, that's what RPing is about after all.

So my question for those who chose synthesis, how do you know what you saw after jumping in the beam is real?

[ReXspec]

Taboo-XX wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Doesn't really matter. The ending isn't changing whether people liked it or not.

Yes, it is

He doesn't understand anything about the malleability of narrative. Disengage. Futher participation might..........

Agreed.  Just let the retard stay in his happy place.