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[MegaSovereign]

kmol wrote...

hosen17 wrote...

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

Thats a good point actually.

Um?  Because Saren was indoctrinated and whether or not synthesis is right was irrelevant because the Reapers already had planned to reap the galaxy?


Seriously you don't even need to like the ending to realize that.

[Dragoonlordz]

All Dead wrote...

I like how he never posted again.

And lmao:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11693797

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11739583/

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11674087/

And...?

Whether I agree with or disagree with the OP, he put more effort into his opinion than you did in responding.

Out of the two I will take his efforts over yours.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 avril 2012 - 11:06 .

[Darth_Trethon]

MegaSovereign wrote...

kmol wrote...

hosen17 wrote...

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

Thats a good point actually.

Um?  Because Saren was indoctrinated and whether or not synthesis is right was irrelevant because the Reapers already had planned to reap the galaxy?


Seriously you don't even need to like the ending to realize that.

Indoctrinated you say......and Shepard wasn't? I mean the Illusive Man with only partial understanding of reaper tech managed to make Shepard shoot Anderson so we can only immagine what the reapers and their creator with full knowledge and understanding of reaper tech and indoctriantion could make Shepard do.....after all Shep did so neatly just accept everything the Catalyst said....

***takes cover in anticipation of impending ****storm***

[PistolPete7556]

ckriley wrote...

 And that's not sarcasm either.  The ending I chose for my Sheperd made the most sense and wrapped up the series perfectly for me.  I should also mention that my EMS was something like 6100 and my galactic readiness was 90% by the time I got to the final battle due to doing a lot of multiplayer, so I'm not sure if that changed anything.  But I couldn't for the life of me understand what all the bickering was about.

I started a thread on here about a week ago saying I lost all my respect for this community because the ME3 I was playing see,Ed completely different than the one everyone was griping about.  You guys seemed to be hating for the sake of hating.  Everyone that posted in that thread kept saying, "get back to us after you've finished it".  Well, I finished it and I'm here to tell you the ending was outstandng.

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

Now, I don't know how the destruction or control endings are, but synthesis made the most sense for me.  And having those last moments with Andersen nearly brought me to tears.  Seriously.  And that's embarrassing to admit. Yes, there was definitely some vagueness to it.  And yes, I would like to know what became of my companions and the universe at large, but that's what the EC is for.

So, I stand by what I said.  I've lost all respect for this community.  The amount of hatred being heaped on the game just doesn't match the game I played.  Was it perfect?  No.  We're there things that bugged me?  Yes.  But did I find the game fun, exciting, and emotionally moving?  Absolutely.  In fact I was hoping BW didn't try to wrap everything up all nice and tidy at the end.  There HADto be loss.  The reapers were too massive for there not to be.
2. So. Thank you BioWare for this experience. I'm on my second play through and I can't wait to play it again.  Bravo!

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

[Dragoonlordz]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

kmol wrote...

hosen17 wrote...

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

Thats a good point actually.

Um?  Because Saren was indoctrinated and whether or not synthesis is right was irrelevant because the Reapers already had planned to reap the galaxy?


Seriously you don't even need to like the ending to realize that.

Indoctrinated you say......and Shepard wasn't? I mean the Illusive Man with only partial understanding of reaper tech managed to make Shepard shoot Anderson so we can only immagine what the reapers and their creator with full knowledge and understanding of reaper tech and indoctriantion could make Shepard do.....after all Shep did so neatly just accept everything the Catalyst said....

***takes cover in anticipation of impending ****storm***

I do find this train of thought always to be amusing, like people wanted to sit down with tea and scones to chat with the AI or VI and discuss the pros and cons of it's opinion. Or that they just wanted to say "NO!!" to it...

I can imagine it's response would simply be "No what? Fine.. Have it your way take care bye bye", turn itself off and leave Shepard standing there twiddling his thumbs with no further discussion. In the end thats just how they wrote it and to be honest whether or not you had a chit chat with it maybe discuss if he prefers the binary number 1 or 0, you would still be left with the same choices. The choices were merely explained by him, the purpose of the three created machines you had to interact with which all would of had purpose built into them. It's not like to me he just randomly made up their functions at will, your side built them based on plans handed down through cycles.

I find it amusing this whole chit chat idea, I don't see anything wrong with expanding on the chat but as someone who did not hate the endings I prefer they do not remove anything. Add but do not subtract. Anyways wait till EC see what it is like.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Delusional will always be delusional.

Redsand is a helluva thing.

[AppealToReason]

 I liked it. It was a smack of reality. War isn't always black/white. Lines are blurred. Most people probably played through the game, me included, and already knew what ending they were going to take. (Renegade - use a big gun and kill everyone, Neutral - sternly tell them to F off, Paragon - somehow become best buddies.)

I liked that it was a bit blurry. I don't like it when a game holds my hand and draws everything out for me to give me a "perfect" story book ending. When questions are left unanswered I get to fill them in my way and I only seem to have about an eigth of the questions everyone else has.

[XXIceColdXX]

People have the right to their opinions OP, don't hate the fact that most players from all over the globe hated the ending. Enjoy your synthesis ending but don't hate everyone because they don't agree with you.

Modifié par XXIceColdXX, 29 avril 2012 - 11:27 .

[The Anti-Saint]

ckriley wrote...

 And that's not sarcasm either.  The ending I chose for my Sheperd made the most sense and wrapped up the series perfectly for me.  I should also mention that my EMS was something like 6100 and my galactic readiness was 90% by the time I got to the final battle due to doing a lot of multiplayer, so I'm not sure if that changed anything.  But I couldn't for the life of me understand what all the bickering was about.

I started a thread on here about a week ago saying I lost all my respect for this community because the ME3 I was playing see,Ed completely different than the one everyone was griping about.  You guys seemed to be hating for the sake of hating.  Everyone that posted in that thread kept saying, "get back to us after you've finished it".  Well, I finished it and I'm here to tell you the ending was outstandng.

I chose e synthesis ending and it was the precise thing mt Sheperd would have done: sacrificing herself for the greater good.  I can only assume those of you complaining never saw The Matrix trilogy, because that is EXACTLY what the synthesis ending was.  Almost to the letter.  

Now, I don't know how the destruction or control endings are, but synthesis made the most sense for me.  And having those last moments with Andersen nearly brought me to tears.  Seriously.  And that's embarrassing to admit. Yes, there was definitely some vagueness to it.  And yes, I would like to know what became of my companions and the universe at large, but that's what the EC is for.

So, I stand by what I said.  I've lost all respect for this community.  The amount of hatred being heaped on the game just doesn't match the game I played.  Was it perfect?  No.  We're there things that bugged me?  Yes.  But did I find the game fun, exciting, and emotionally moving?  Absolutely.  In fact I was hoping BW didn't try to wrap everything up all nice and tidy at the end.  There HADto be loss.  The reapers were too massive for there not to be.
2. So. Thank you BioWare for this experience. I'm on my second play through and I can't wait to play it again.  Bravo!

The ultimate flamebait.

[XXIceColdXX]

Not sure if serious either , thinking OP could be trolling .

[Provo_101]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do find this train of thought always to be amusing, like people wanted to sit down with tea and scones to chat with the AI or VI and discuss the pros and cons of it's opinion. Or that they just wanted to say "NO!!" to it...

I can imagine it's response would simply be "No what? Fine.. Have it your way take care bye bye", turn itself off and leave Shepard standing there twiddling his thumbs with no further discussion. In the end thats just how they wrote it and to be honest whether or not you had a chit chat with it maybe discuss if he prefers the binary number 1 or 0, you would still be left with the same choices. The choices were merely explained by him, the purpose of the three created machines you had to interact with which all would of had purpose built into them. It's not like to me he just randomly made up their functions at will, your side built them based on plans handed down through cycles.

I find it amusing this whole chit chat idea, I don't see anything wrong with expanding on the chat but as someone who did not hate the endings I prefer they do not remove anything. Add but do not subtract. Anyways wait till EC see what it is like.

What.. the hell are you talking about?

"Hey bro, see those tesla rods over there? Yeah, the ones conveniently made for humanoid hands? Yeah, those'll make you control the Reapers, the guys that can presumably speak through FTL comms, and don't have fingers or opposable thumbs. That tube over there, it'll kill all Reapers when you shoot it... what's that? Yeah, like with a gun. I'm not too sure WHY we built that, but whatever. Oh and finally, there's that huge beam over there. Yeah, that'll liquify you, and you'll turn everyone partly synthetic, don't ask how, it'll just happen. Oh, and all the Mass Relays blow up regardless, and you'll get vaporized if you choose to attempt to Control us, we'll be back again though. But with Synthesis, we definitely won't be back later."

"Trust me."

That is why we want an option to communicate. We don't want "tea and scones" and have a bloody heart to heart with the ****er, we just have no idea how any of this will turn out, if YOU were Shepard in that scenario, how would you react? You would ask questions, no? Then why the hell can't we? 

Modifié par Provo_101, 29 avril 2012 - 11:32 .

[Dragoonlordz]

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Not sure if serious either , thinking OP could be trolling .

He or she is not. OP expressed wha he liked, explained it in his or her own way.

Having seen his posts previously his opinion has not changed from the past, he is not trolling.

Though I cannot say the same for most of the people hating on him or her in here.

[Edolix]

You chose synthesis and you feel...satisfied? Fufilled?

I question your sanity.

[LucasShark]

"The ending was perfect; no problems with it at all"

There are no words for how little I respect your opinion.

[Darth_Trethon]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do find this train of thought always to be amusing, like people wanted to sit down with tea and scones to chat with the AI or VI and discuss the pros and cons of it's opinion. Or that they just wanted to say "NO!!" to it...

I can imagine it's response would simply be "No what? Fine.. Have it your way take care bye bye", turn itself off and leave Shepard standing there twiddling his thumbs with no further discussion. In the end thats just how they wrote it and to be honest whether or not you had a chit chat with it maybe discuss if he prefers the binary number 1 or 0, you would still be left with the same choices. The choices were merely explained by him, the purpose of the three created machines you had to interact with which all would of had purpose built into them. It's not like to me he just randomly made up their functions at will, your side built them based on plans handed down through cycles.

I find it amusing this whole chit chat idea, I don't see anything wrong with expanding on the chat but as someone who did not hate the endings I prefer they do not remove anything. Add but do not subtract. Anyways wait till EC see what it is like.

Say what you will neither Synthesis nor Control make much sense....we just finished bashing the Illusive Man over the dangers of trying to control the reapers(not ready for that power and the danger if wrong is too great and so on) and then when the catalyst says it's ok for you because you're not indoctrinated shepard just kind of says "oh ok, that makes sense".....wait WHAT? TIM just controlled you and he was just a tool with limited knowledge and understanding and he made you shoot anderson and it's not like the reapers were open with him about being indoctrinated.....he firmly believed he was not. Are you actually suggesting that the reapers would be open and honest with Shepard if they wanted him/her to take a certain action. What are they going to say? This:

"Yes Shepard you are indoctrinated and we control you through subtle suggestions and you are indoctrinated but instead of exerting our control over you we want to ask you if you will pretty please just do us a favor and go for control or synthesis even though they are fake choices and you just die. You see we really don't want to be destroyed so will you please lend us a hand here?"

I think it's hilarious how you think the Catalyst should just be taken at face value after all that transpired....

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 29 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Provo_101 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do find this train of thought always to be amusing, like people wanted to sit down with tea and scones to chat with the AI or VI and discuss the pros and cons of it's opinion. Or that they just wanted to say "NO!!" to it...

I can imagine it's response would simply be "No what? Fine.. Have it your way take care bye bye", turn itself off and leave Shepard standing there twiddling his thumbs with no further discussion. In the end thats just how they wrote it and to be honest whether or not you had a chit chat with it maybe discuss if he prefers the binary number 1 or 0, you would still be left with the same choices. The choices were merely explained by him, the purpose of the three created machines you had to interact with which all would of had purpose built into them. It's not like to me he just randomly made up their functions at will, your side built them based on plans handed down through cycles.

I find it amusing this whole chit chat idea, I don't see anything wrong with expanding on the chat but as someone who did not hate the endings I prefer they do not remove anything. Add but do not subtract. Anyways wait till EC see what it is like.

What.. the hell are you talking about?

"Hey bro, see those tesla rods over there? Yeah, the ones conveniently made for humanoid hands? Yeah, those'll make you control the Reapers, the guys that can presumably speak through FTL comms, and don't have fingers or opposable thumbs. That tube over there, it'll kill all Reapers when you shoot it... what's that? Yeah, like with a gun. I'm not too sure WHY we built that, but whatever. Oh and finally, there's that huge beam over there. Yeah, that'll liquify you, and you'll turn everyone partly synthetic, don't ask how, it'll just happen."

"Trust me."

That is why we want an option to communicate. We don't want "tea and scones" and have a bloody heart to heart with the ****er, we just have no idea how any of this will turn out, if YOU were Shepard in that scenario, how would you react? You would ask questions, no? Then why the hell can't we? 

You did ask questions, you just never got to ask as many as you wanted. Every game has such limitations on how much they create, I never got to ask Bethany if she had breast implants in DA2 via dialogue with her but I wanted too. Same principle. Options allowed to have within framework of what they create. They could give you more or they could of given you less.

Thats what they wanted to give you and why can't you have more? Because you did not make the game.

Would it of been bad to allow more? No, but you asked why can't you have had more. The answer is because they did not create more and if you made the game you could of given more options but alas you did not.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 avril 2012 - 11:42 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do find this train of thought always to be amusing, like people wanted to sit down with tea and scones to chat with the AI or VI and discuss the pros and cons of it's opinion. Or that they just wanted to say "NO!!" to it...

I can imagine it's response would simply be "No what? Fine.. Have it your way take care bye bye", turn itself off and leave Shepard standing there twiddling his thumbs with no further discussion. In the end thats just how they wrote it and to be honest whether or not you had a chit chat with it maybe discuss if he prefers the binary number 1 or 0, you would still be left with the same choices. The choices were merely explained by him, the purpose of the three created machines you had to interact with which all would of had purpose built into them. It's not like to me he just randomly made up their functions at will, your side built them based on plans handed down through cycles.

I find it amusing this whole chit chat idea, I don't see anything wrong with expanding on the chat but as someone who did not hate the endings I prefer they do not remove anything. Add but do not subtract. Anyways wait till EC see what it is like.

Say what you will neither Synthesis nor Control make much sense....we just finished bashing the Illusive Man over the dangers of trying to control the reapers(not ready for that power and the danger if wrong is too great and so on) and then when the catalyst says it's ok for you because you're not indoctrinated shepard just kind of says "oh ok, that makes sense".....wait WHAT? TIM just controlled you and he was just a tool with limited knowledge and understanding and he made you shoot anderson and it's not like the reapers were open with him about being indoctrinated.....he firmly believed he was not. Are you actually suggesting that the reapers would be open and honest with Shepard if they wanted him/her to take a certain action. What are they going to say? This:

"Yes Shepard you are indoctrinated and we control you through subtle suggestions and you are indoctrinated but instead of exerting our control over you we want to ask you if you will pretty please just do us a favor and go for control or synthesis even though they are fake choices and you just die. You see we really don't want to be destroyed so will you please lend us a hand here?"

I think it's hilarious how you think the Catalyst should just be taken at face value after all that transpired....

I don't think matters if you believe it or not. Irrelevant quite frankly. You had a forth option of not picking any and turning off the game pretending you stood there and bled to death because you did not trust the VI or AI and since you did not want to pick any of the three choices presented.

[crimzontearz]

sooooooo you OK with the whole galaxy being turned into cyborgs by spacemagic and YOUR Shepard to lay down supine while the space rat tells him what he is allowed to do?

cool

not us tho

[Rockstarblunt]

hosen17 wrote...

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

Sigh.. this comment says it all.

For those who chose control why did you kill Tim? He was going for control!
- and don't be so naive to listen to the catalyst when he said, ''Oh Tim can't control the reapers only you can" Riiiight...


Thoughts?

Destroy seems most relevant along with breathing scene but whatever thats another matter.

[babachewie]

I love how when people don't understand something it's god or magic.

Modifié par babachewie, 29 avril 2012 - 11:46 .

[Rockstarblunt]

MegaSovereign wrote...

kmol wrote...

hosen17 wrote...

So why did you kill Saren in ME1 if you think synthesis is perfect?

Thats a good point actually.

Um?  Because Saren was indoctrinated and whether or not synthesis is right was irrelevant because the Reapers already had planned to reap the galaxy?


Seriously you don't even need to like the ending to realize that.

So your saying Saren who was indoctrinated wanted synthesis, which isn't right or wrong?  And it was irrelevant??

Seems to me, if you chose synthesis, that means you were indoctrinated like Saren. THUS, why KILL HIM in ME1 lol