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What If the EC is Terrible?


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#126
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Callidus Thorn wrote...

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Bioware have said they won't change the ending, what more information is needed?
The sticky mentions "additional context and deeper insight" and that it will "expand on the existing endings" by "creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences"
Which basically reads as them adding in cutscenes to justify their choice of ending. It sounds more like Bioware telling people why there right rather than actually addressing their concerns.

Of course as the pre-release interviews proved, things can change.

Common criticisms of the ending are lack of closure and plot holes and that's what the EC is supposed to address. Of course this isn't going to be enough for someone who is dead set on the idea that the ending needs to be completely redone.

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This is the BSN: there always enough vitriol and bile to go around. But seriously, many here will never be satisfied, I just hope that they realize it, so that they can move onto greener pastures.


If by greener pastures you mean SWtoR and DAIII then I have some bad news for you...

He likely meant games from other companies.

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If EC is horrible, I will hang my head and move on from anything ME3 related. I will also look at BioWare's next game much more closely before I buy. Maybe buy it used a few months after release just to be safe.

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As much as I've defended some of Bioware's antics in the past (and flamed them for some others), even I have to admit that ME3, past....erm....C station (trying not to be spoilerish) is a horribly broken mess that can not be band-aided.

The EC is going to be like a eulogy at a funeral. Maybe it will make some people feel a little better about the situation. Maybe some will actually cry. Maybe some will leave with a sense of hope and/or closure. But ultimately nothing is going to be able to go back in time and prevent it from happening-it's still a GD funeral.

The sad,sad part of it though-is that in this situation Bioware had the means and the power to go back and repair things. No need for a EC (i.e. eulogy). But will not, or more likely can not.

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we dont even know yet what it is.

lets just quit the speculation and negative thoughts alone until its out

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streamlock wrote...
The EC is going to be like a eulogy at a funeral. Maybe it will make some people feel a little better about the situation. Maybe some will actually cry. Maybe some will leave with a sense of hope and/or closure. But ultimately nothing is going to be able to go back in time and prevent it from happening-it's still a GD funeral.


And then there'll be some muppets who start kicking the casket and talking about how the dead person's last ten minutes made their entire life worthless and threatening to sue their parents.

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shurikenmanta wrote...

streamlock wrote...
The EC is going to be like a eulogy at a funeral. Maybe it will make some people feel a little better about the situation. Maybe some will actually cry. Maybe some will leave with a sense of hope and/or closure. But ultimately nothing is going to be able to go back in time and prevent it from happening-it's still a GD funeral.


And then there'll be some muppets who start kicking the casket and talking about how the dead person's last ten minutes made their entire life worthless and threatening to sue their parents.


I would laugh, but I've been to a couple RL funerals that have ended analogous to that :(

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Honestly, I think EC will not make the ending better. Then again, I don't want it better I just want to understand it.

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Nothing changes...

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shurikenmanta wrote...

streamlock wrote...
The EC is going to be like a eulogy at a funeral. Maybe it will make some people feel a little better about the situation. Maybe some will actually cry. Maybe some will leave with a sense of hope and/or closure. But ultimately nothing is going to be able to go back in time and prevent it from happening-it's still a GD funeral.


And then there'll be some muppets who start kicking the casket and talking about how the dead person's last ten minutes made their entire life worthless and threatening to sue their parents.


Hahahahaha! :lol:

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Drew's ending was the satisfying, cool, and sensible ending that we all wanted. The lead writers that took over decided to take it in their own way... and we got what we got.

Its really too bad, but there isn't much we can do now.

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Kinda looking forward to the EC but in otherways it's still doesn't do justice to the crappy ending just to make it an even longer crappy ending!

I just finished a playthrough of Deus Ex Human Revolution and the ending seemed almost exactly the same as what was in ME3, you had your holograhm telling you the story and your 4 choices, though in ME3 its only 3 they just basically took the 4th option an placed it in all 3 or 2 never can tell really. You get A, B, C and option D in Deus Ex in ME# you get options A, B, C!

The only real diffrence is it showed a good slideshow and explained what may or may not happen and thankfully no magic was involved to fix it instantly! I liked the ending in Deus Ex it works well, but not in ME3 feels more like a copout to use someone elses ending.

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Emzamination wrote...

This hatred has consumed and twisted you retakers against the company you once stood by, for shame.I shall pray that the retakers may find forgiveness and peace in Bioware once more, one day.


LOLOLOL

Dude.....the sheer stupidity on so many levels of your comment boggles the mind. But then I saw that you have Miss Chipmunk in a condom for your avatar and realized you're just trolling

LOL:lol:

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Tazzmission wrote...

we dont even know yet what it is.

Except we do since BioWare already explained what the EC intends to do.

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If EC sucks, sucks for us.

#141
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RazzyBoyRo wrote...

This is not a question of "if" its a fact that it will suck no matter what Bioware delivers...they said themselves they won't change the ending so basically instead of scooping up the **** they are going to explain the how the **** happened.


And because you said it, it is not a question of "opinion" but one of fact. :)

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BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

This hatred has consumed and twisted you retakers against the company you once stood by, for shame.I shall pray that the retakers may find forgiveness and peace in Bioware once more, one day.


LOLOLOL

Dude.....the sheer stupidity on so many levels of your comment boggles the mind. But then I saw that you have Miss Chipmunk in a condom for your avatar and realized you're just trolling

LOL:lol:


But I was just referencing...O nvm

I should most definitely look into a new avatar tho...this is the 24th time I've got the "I can't take you serious with an allers Avatar" statement. Why? it boggles my mind :mellow:

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jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

we dont even know yet what it is.

Except we do since BioWare already explained what the EC intends to do.


im just saying they may have said one thing before but you just never know if thats just a tease to hold us over

because for all we know it can be epic


people just need to quit always assuming the worst

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when it comes to mass effect 3, I pretty much hit the rock bottom. it can only get better from this point on. and if EC doesn't improve anything? oh well. at least they tried. I don't see how it can make things worse, so at a minimum, there will be no change.

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I don't know...floods, fires, a terrible plague? Locusts? What?

Here's what will most likely happen: Thread after thread after thread after thread after thread of "Bioware lets us down again" or "Goodbye Bioware" (in which people say their venomous goodbyes but stick around through several pages to explain them, thereby cancelling out the purpose of the thread), people cancelling their SWTOR subscriptions for some reason (never mind that the people working on TOR have NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH to do with the development of ME3 other than just happening to work for the same company), haters viciously insulting those who liked it (because, after all, f*ck them for having a differing opinion), and those who liked it saying that those who didn't "just didn't understand it" or some such nonsense. Let's not forget more threads about the Indoctrination Theory and just how the EC either firmly proved or disproved it, and all the ways the OP is right and/or wrong about either.

In other words, another day ending in the letter "y" for BSN's Mass Effect forums.

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*double-post*

Modifié par Shatterhand1701, 01 mai 2012 - 04:18 .


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Tazzmission wrote...



people just need to quit always assuming the worst




Why, it works for Garrus.

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It's getting late, here, so I didn't have time to read all the posts in the thread, but I'm going to post my thoughts on the OP:

"Adding more feces to feces doesn't make it less fecal."  I absolutely could not have put it any better.  BioWare can stow the EC DLC.  I'm not buying any more BoiWare products, games merchandise or DLC until this ending fiasco has been fixed.  Just to be clear:  They can leave the exiting ending 100% intact.  I want the other optional endings Casey Hudson promised!  I don't buy from companies that don't deliver the product they advertise.

"The best ad is a good product."
Alan H. Meyer

Anyone seen the Matrix Trilogy?  I hated the ending of Revolutions, and I have never watched any of the films again, nor will I.  I have moved on.  I'm actually giving BioWare a chance to finish the game and offer the promised multiple endings before I go back to my most favorite games.  I'm a racing game geek.  I never really cared for shooters.  It was ME1 and its epic story, great characters, and dceisions that mattered that made me want to play a Third-Person Shooter style of game, and its the "your choices don't really matter after all" ending of ME3 that makes me so very, very, very sorry I did... 

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Mass Effect is dead. The trilogy and universe completely murdered. What I want to know is who or what was responsible and their motive. No more guesswork and conjecture but details. I can at least have some peace knowing that the truth came out.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 01 mai 2012 - 04:59 .


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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mass Effect is dead. The trilogy and universe completely murdered. What I want to know is who or what was responsible and their motive. No more guesswork and conjecture but details. I can at least have some peace knowing that the truth came out.



correction shepards story is dead and his story alone



always remember the devs have stated since me1 this was shepards story and its not like shepard is the sole charachter in mass effect and i really dont think that should affect spin offs wich can be 100,000 years before the first trilogy

Modifié par Tazzmission, 01 mai 2012 - 05:02 .