CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
You were arguing with a straw man, so I'm not really sure how to respond to your post, given that you misrepresented my point.
If you feel that the characters in Mass Effect really do exist outside of the Mass Effect universe, then you are welcome to believe that. I just won't agree with you, because it simply isn't true. Fictional characters by definition do not exist in reality.
So I'm not sure what else I can say to you. I already acknowledged that in a fictional work, you can assume that fictional characters have fictional lives outside of the fictional protagonist's life.
My point was simply this - the fact that a writer CAN insert things into a story whenever they want doesn't necessarily make what they're inserting consistent or appropriate to the story.
For example, the writers COULD have added any of the following elements to the ME3 story:
1) MaleShep has a sex change operation halfway through the game.
2) Liara leaves the Normandy halfway through the game to become a circus trapese artist.
3) Doctor Chakwas sleeps with every male crew member over the course of the game.
That does not mean, however, that if the writers chose to add these things to the story, that it would be appropriate for them to do so. I would argue this for the following reasons.
1) MaleShep has never expressed any interest whatsoever in being a woman. You COULD, however, use the "things happen outside the game" argument to come up with a backstory for this. For example, while MaleShep is imprisioned, he has a lot of time to meditate on his life, and has the epihany that he'd rather be a woman.
2) Liara has never said anything about the trapese, practiced the trapese, had anything to do with the trapese. However, she COULD have been keeping her love for the trapese and her desire to join the circus a secret for all this time.
3) Doctor Chakwas has never really expressed a desire for a relationship with someone, and basically keeps to herself most of the time. However, she COULD be wildly promiscuous when Shep isn't there to see it.
Once again: Just because the writer has license to add elements to a developing story, that doesn't automatically make those elements appropriate to the story.
Thank you. This was all I pretty much wanted to know. Got linked to your topic in a discussion about an upcoming contest regarding short stories. People started discussing the contents of this topic instead of the contest and thus my interest was shifted to here.
I generally don't really bother reading topics about ingame romances, cause they're not really important to me. They're fun to have, but not needed for my pleasure in a game/story.
Your posts just made me rather curious (and somewhat shocked at first, hence the first reply was less than... great) as to whether or not you really believed Shepard had to be around for stuff to happen in the Mass Effect universe. The Leprechaun story made me think so, though it might have been a misunderstanding due to the general tone of the discussion you had and still have with a less than civil discussion partner. Linked to both previous and later posts, it just gave me and my friends the wrong impression due to the hostility and the discussion itself, it seems.
I do not believe that characters from the ME universe exist outside the ME universe, though.
Edit: Though one minor thing. Stress and strong emotions can force you to connect with someone you haven't connected with before. Thus a Tali/Garrus romance would be more... logical? Tali almost lost her entire race to the Geth. Garrus fought a losing war on every front, sending good people in to die. Maybe they just needed comfort in a bad situation. You don't know what goes around in their heads.
Modifié par sinatron, 03 mai 2012 - 11:36 .





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