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On the Optimal Utilization of Missiles (A Guide)


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#51
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Relix28 wrote...

Good guide.

Glad to help.

Lionheartwolf wrote...

in fact just knowing that you want me to use rockets makes me want to use them less now.


So what you're saying is that you're a petty, spiteful little troll who is contrary for the sake of being contrary.  That's not really a nice thing to say about yourself.

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Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.

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Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


Yeah, but don't forget the fact that we want him to perform well makes him want to perform badly.  :P

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Good guide.

Glad to help.

Lionheartwolf wrote...

in fact just knowing that you want me to use rockets makes me want to use them less now.


So what you're saying is that you're a petty, spiteful little troll who is contrary for the sake of being contrary.  That's not really a nice thing to say about yourself.


contrary for the sake of being contrary is just as useful and being commanding for the sake of being commanding and calling it a 'guide' at least im not being passive agressive about it.

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Brilliant guide.

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Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


its a rocket. trust me it works well in any situation. you dont need a guide to when to use it, just as long as you dont miss you did something constructive with it. if you find it useful by all means use your rockets, but this isnt changing the dynamics or strategies to anything. its a failsafe there isnt much more to it than that.

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Cloak, run into the middle of 2 primes 4 pyros and 3 hunters, shoot at the ground, WIN.
If it's not enough for a kill streak, or needed to do an objective, it's a wasted missile imo.
Nice little guide.

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Lionheartwolf wrote...

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


its a rocket. trust me it works well in any situation. you dont need a guide to when to use it, just as long as you dont miss you did something constructive with it. if you find it useful by all means use your rockets, but this isnt changing the dynamics or strategies to anything. its a failsafe there isnt much more to it than that.


It doesn't 'work well in any situation.'  A rocket when there's one low level mob (an assualt trooper for example) is not the best use for it.  When you have two atlases and a cluster of phantoms, that's a good use for a rocket.

Yes, a rocket will kill that lone assault trooper, I don't deny that.  But the guide is suggesting what type of circumstances is the best use of missiles.  Not just when they will kill something.

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Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf wrote...

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


its a rocket. trust me it works well in any situation. you dont need a guide to when to use it, just as long as you dont miss you did something constructive with it. if you find it useful by all means use your rockets, but this isnt changing the dynamics or strategies to anything. its a failsafe there isnt much more to it than that.


It doesn't 'work well in any situation.'  A rocket when there's one low level mob (an assualt trooper for example) is not the best use for it.  When you have two atlases and a cluster of phantoms, that's a good use for a rocket.

Yes, a rocket will kill that lone assault trooper, I don't deny that.  But the guide is suggesting what type of circumstances is the best use of missiles.  Not just when they will kill something.


You're talking to a guy who says he doesn't want to do things just because other people would like it.  I don't think reason is going to help.

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Lionheartwolf wrote...

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


its a rocket. trust me it works well in any situation. you dont need a guide to when to use it, just as long as you dont miss you did something constructive with it. if you find it useful by all means use your rockets, but this isnt changing the dynamics or strategies to anything. its a failsafe there isnt much more to it than that.


So you've never seen someone nuke a single Banshee on wave 3 Objective? Or a spawn point early in a match on a map with a potential horrid hack objective like Reactor/reapers?

This guide is golden, I wish they could link to it in the pre-game load screen tips...

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this should be stickied for future generations

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astheoceansblue wrote...
This guide is golden, I wish they could link to it in the pre-game load screen tips...

It'd be a helluva lot better than the useless messages they have now... like "carry different weapons to deal with different defenses!"

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Last night in a silver match on Hydra, wave 10 there was an eliminate target objective. First target was a Banshee who happened to be standing right next to another Banshee and a Brute, boom, target down. Ran to the second target in the control room, another Banshee standing right next to a fourth Banshee, boom, target down. Last two targets were Cannibals. ^_^ I thought of the good tips in this thread when that happened, like how later objectives were more likely to be less durable targets when you rocket those Banshees immediately. Good stuff!

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holdenagincourt wrote...

Last night in a silver match on Hydra, wave 10 there was an eliminate target objective. First target was a Banshee who happened to be standing right next to another Banshee and a Brute, boom, target down. Ran to the second target in the control room, another Banshee standing right next to a fourth Banshee, boom, target down. Last two targets were Cannibals. ^_^ I thought of the good tips in this thread when that happened, like how later objectives were more likely to be less durable targets when you rocket those Banshees immediately. Good stuff!


Make sure to kill other types of enemies as collateral damage with your rocket when killing the banshee target to make it switch.  =]

I tend to sprint to wherever the first enemy spawn is for a target objective and missile it for a killstreak, and then it's easy running from there with weak enemy targets.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 08 mai 2012 - 04:15 .


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Lionheartwolf wrote...

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Lionheartwolf, the guide is a good one as 1) it's flexible enough to work in pretty much any situation and 2) it gives information that a lot of people, myself included, didn't know. Part of what the forums here are for is to share tactics that work to other players.


its a rocket. trust me it works well in any situation. you dont need a guide to when to use it, just as long as you dont miss you did something constructive with it. if you find it useful by all means use your rockets, but this isnt changing the dynamics or strategies to anything. its a failsafe there isnt much more to it than that.


You must be one of the people who think rockets run off thermal clips.

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I always forget about my rockets until I see someone use one. Then it's rocket city. Usually around wave 8/9 (Derp)

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MuteSyndrome wrote...

I always forget about my rockets until I see someone use one. Then it's rocket city. Usually around wave 8/9 (Derp)


Usually I don't forget about rockets. As a rule I have, I won't use equipment until I know the rest of the team don't mind using theirs. I'm not going to use all my equipment carrying a team who won't use anything cause of their selfishness

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Good guide. I was even making one mistake before i saw this: Always shoot the two banshees.

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Great post OP :) I try to stick to these guidelines when using my own missiles :P

(i didn't know that missile explosions actually went thru walls :o)

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-DO
Fire missiles when you really don't want to deal with something. Like when you spot 4 Phantoms attempting a flanking maneuver and two atlases that aren't quite dead on the other flank.

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Afoxi wrote...

-DO
Fire missiles when you really don't want to deal with something. Like when you spot 4 Phantoms attempting a flanking maneuver and two atlases that aren't quite dead on the other flank.


I feel this point is already addressed in the guide.

Nereithr wrote...

Good guide. I was even making one mistake before i saw this: Always shoot the two banshees.


Yep, all that really does in most situations is spawn two more banshees.

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Homey C-Dawg

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I've been using my missiles liberally against banshees this weekend.

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ederius wrote...

This should be stickied for future generations


Every damn PuG I play reminds me why people need to read this.

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Every time I see someone try to headshot a Banshee with a Rocket, then watch said rocket fly off into the oblivion of space, I laugh and cry a bit.

Shoot your feet, be elite!

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One more thing :

Do tell your squad-mates that you are going to use a missile launcher. Just so they don't use their own cobra to shoot the same target.