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Okay - the really long thread from this part of the forum was closed, the one about not being able to reach 4000+EMS in SP,  and we were all sent off to our different platform forums.... but I just want to ask a quick question or two....

As we have all been sent off to our separate forums are you, Bioware, saying that this is actually a bug and that it should be possible even though it isn't and that is why we are no longer able to discuss the matter on the general forum? 

Just seems a bit odd that we are now banned from discussing it here together - what is that about?  Is it not a general discussion?

And if it is a bug can you give us any idea of when this issue will be resolved? 

And will anyone from Bioware respond to the platform fourms at any point? 

Any updates would be great to be honest...

Cheers!


Edit:  Would have contacted a Bioware representative directly via PM to ask but have so far had no answer to my PMs and don't know where else to ask!

Modifié par CG Drum, 30 avril 2012 - 10:21 .


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Why the deafening silence, Bioware?

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You post and PM in the middle of the night and expect an answer?

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Navasha wrote...

You post and PM in the middle of the night and expect an answer?


No I post in the middle of the day where I am!  Time zone may be different but doesn't mean my posts/PMs shouldn't be answered... issues are still there regardless of the time!

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This is not a 'bug', let's be honest here. 500+ missing War Assets to get 4000+ EMS (at 50% Readiness) ain't just a lil "omission", it was deliberate. I can understand everything (like for example the increased number of variables without increased development time which forced them to reduce number of dialogue options) but this I can't look at in anyway other than blatant attempt to force people to play MP. Sorry BW

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Well, this will be locked like all threads discussing this in parts of the forum where people might actually see it. Talking about things like ongoing face import issues or the SP/EMS ****-up isn't wanted on general discussion anymore, for whatever reasons.

Although I'm not as sure as IsaacShep that this was deliberate. By now Bioware has almost convinced me that they probably really just **** up things like these due to nonexistant QA and nonexistant internal communication. I'm not totally convinced though, probably they could have done/could do better and just didn't/don't give a ****.

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

Well, this will be locked like all threads discussing this in parts of the forum where people might actually see it. Talking about things like ongoing face import issues or the SP/EMS ****-up isn't wanted on general discussion anymore, for whatever reasons.

Although I'm not as sure as IsaacShep that this was deliberate. By now Bioware has almost convinced me that they probably really just **** up things like these due to nonexistant QA and nonexistant internal communication. I'm not totally convinced though, probably they could have done/could do better and just didn't/don't give a ****.


Then official statement would be really appreciated.

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We were told to start threads in the tech forums. Which we did. What really is starting to annoy me is not one single Bioware Dev has said anyting on the issue in the threads.

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 30 avril 2012 - 12:49 .


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Gtacatalina wrote...


We were told to start threads in the tech forums. Which we did. What really is starting to annoy me is not one single Bioware Dev has said anyting on the issue in the threads.


Yeah - that's why I started this one, as there has been no input from Bioware in the tech forums which is where they sent us. 
Why send us there if they still aren't going to commuicate with us?  Trying to keep this issue off the general discussion thread makes no sense - as it is a general issue that covers all platforms. 

I know Bioware may well be hard at work on sorting this for us but some idea of time scales would be appreciated - I am not trying to cause trouble or annoy, just really want to be able to achieve all endings and when I can I will happily come back and say thank you for sorting the issue!

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What really makes the whole "Go to the subforums"-strategy especially annoying for me is that I and other people can't post there because we can't register our game on the damn BSN. I gave up trying to merge my BSN and Origin accounts as described on the BSN after going three rounds against EA's "customer service" telling me it wasn't possible at all or that I couldn't prove my ownership of both accounts.

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I imagine they'll lock this thread real soon as well

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The ems thread was closed because mike gamble (i think) replied to a fan on Twitter that they were looking into the issue, because, well Twitter would be the natural place to announce that right? Wait, calling it an announcement would be absurd, a fan took the initiative and asked. I wonder if we'd still be in the dark if he had not asked.

I digress, it was a really petty reason to close it, the thread wasn't breaking any rules, it was civil and gave people info when they sought it. Not well handled at all imo.

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Yeah - seemed like the reason they gave for closing the main thread was just an excuse to move the issue to the other forums if you ask me, where it can sit and be seen and posted on less as not everyone can access those parts of the forum.

Honestly I'd just be happy with just some proper communication from Bioware, so we know exactly what they are doing, an idea of how long they think the issue will take to resolve and whether it is actually now being classed as a "bug".

I'm sure someone will come along and lock this thread - let's just hope that when they do they actually give us some proper info on what is happening,... and don't just lock and run!

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

Although I'm not as sure as IsaacShep that this was deliberate. By now Bioware has almost convinced me that they probably really just **** up things like these due to nonexistant QA and nonexistant internal communication. I'm not totally convinced though, probably they could have done/could do better and just didn't/don't give a ****.

Believe me I want it to be just a 'mistake'. But it's damn hard to buy that not a single person at the team actually took the calculator and didn't notice that there's 500 War Assets missing, and that is assuming the absolute maximum count, with uber-heavy meta-gaming and all. We're not even talking about making some small mistakes resulting in a few less Assets. I mean seriously...

Modifié par IsaacShep, 30 avril 2012 - 02:37 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

This is not a 'bug', let's be honest here. 500+ missing War Assets to get 4000+ EMS (at 50% Readiness) ain't just a lil "omission", it was deliberate. I can understand everything (like for example the increased number of variables without increased development time which forced them to reduce number of dialogue options) but this I can't look at in anyway other than blatant attempt to force people to play MP. Sorry BW



This is actually my only real problem with Mass Effect 3, all the other stuff I can overlook...but this thing where you basically have no choice but to play multiplayer in order to get 4000+ EMS, just isn't at all fair or in keeping what Bioware said before release. I can get soooooo close to 4000 in SP, but can never get up to that number....It sucks. Image IPB

Modifié par SilverMoonDragon, 30 avril 2012 - 02:42 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

Believe me I want it to be just a 'mistake'. But it's damn hard to buy that not a single person at the team actually took the calculator and didn't notice that there's 500 War Assets missing, and that is assuming the absolute maximum count, with uber-heavy meta-gaming and all. We're not even talking about making some small mistakes resulting in a few less Assets. I mean seriously...


Well, one would suspect that someone at Bioware must have tried to import a character with a custom appearance from the previous games at some point of development, which would have naturally resulted in the insight that it does not work. I'm sorry, but either Bioware's QA is on par with their PR (ridiculously bad) or they as a company don't give a **** and think their customers are idiots.

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IsaacShep wrote...

This is not a 'bug', let's be honest here. 500+ missing War Assets to get 4000+ EMS (at 50% Readiness) ain't just a lil "omission", it was deliberate. I can understand everything (like for example the increased number of variables without increased development time which forced them to reduce number of dialogue options) but this I can't look at in anyway other than blatant attempt to force people to play MP and/or buy DLC with the missing War Assets. Sorry BW


Fixed that for you Image IPB

But yeah, to echo other posters in this new thread, one of the most worrying things to me is the lack of communication from Bioware. It feels like they just want the issue to go away. Thankfully, many people on here won't let it.

Bugs happen. Balance issues happen. At least make it clear that you're looking for a solution, so we can have some faith that it will be fixed eventually. Or, make it clear that the game is functioning as intended, so we at least know where we stand.

Modifié par G00N3R7883, 30 avril 2012 - 03:06 .


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In before lock & run!

And a quick reminder that Bioware was always aware of this "issue", as confirmed in a PM from Brenon Holmes back in March (it was in this big locked thread). So Jarrett and Chris were basically misinforming us, or were just oblivious to this when they were denying it.

I really lost any respect to this company, as treating customers like idiots is poor choice for your PR stance, but I'm still interested in having the game I bought fixed. So I'm thinking we should still bug them until they patch it, and we should do it here, in General Discussion forum, as the thread on this topic in technical section is being ignored by Bioware.

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Does it really matter at this point?. You never get to see your "assets" in battle. You only know of the ones working on the Crucible because of the logs you read at Liara's terminal.

Seriously. What is the point of getting a "different" ending?. How many videos have been made, showing the little to no difference between each ending?.

Why are you guys still trying?.

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Chris has posted a couple times in several threads saying that the "inattainable without MP" issue is being looked into. I know it doesn't sound as much like "we dun goofed, imma go fix now" as you'd want to, but seriously, these things do take time.

Accept it, they're not going to start posting "we're fixing this stuff!" all of a sudden if they hadn't been doing it for the previous two months.

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 Well, EA just announced that they will heavily lean on MP in the future as that is apparently THE market where there's money to get. So I am not too surprised anymore that SP got botched in such a way that you are more or less forced to play MP. It's so much easier to cash in loads of money by constantly selling small 2-3$ packs on MP then programming a decent game and maybe sell a DLC or two. Who would blame EA to go where the money is <_<

I don't give a single damn about MP. If I want to play with others I would play an MMO (which I did extensively in the past and it only resulted in me getting annoyed with people). I will stick to SP. If that means manipulating my files with glibbed to manually inserting EMS to get the best ending so be it. It's lame but apparently the only way at the moment!

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Rodia Driftwood wrote...

Does it really matter at this point?. You never get to see your "assets" in battle. You only know of the ones working on the Crucible because of the logs you read at Liara's terminal.

Seriously. What is the point of getting a "different" ending?. How many videos have been made, showing the little to no difference between each ending?.

Why are you guys still trying?.  


For me it's the principle of the matter. They said that multiplayer would not effect the single player experience. Well multiplayer has effected the single player experience!

Not only can I not get enough EMS to get that ending, I also cannot get The Master & Commander and The Defender achievements!

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 01 mai 2012 - 08:02 .


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Erenbe wrote...

 Well, EA just announced that they will heavily lean on MP in the future as that is apparently THE market where there's money to get. So I am not too surprised anymore that SP got botched in such a way that you are more or less forced to play MP. It's so much easier to cash in loads of money by constantly selling small 2-3$ packs on MP then programming a decent game and maybe sell a DLC or two. Who would blame EA to go where the money is <_<

I don't give a single damn about MP. If I want to play with others I would play an MMO (which I did extensively in the past and it only resulted in me getting annoyed with people). I will stick to SP. If that means manipulating my files with glibbed to manually inserting EMS to get the best ending so be it. It's lame but apparently the only way at the moment!


Exactly.

I don't blame them either but it gets pretty clear that our ways will part. Not because I'm raving about not buying any Bioware game anymore, but because it just looks like as if they won't produce anything of interest to me in the foreseeable future.

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abaris wrote...

Erenbe wrote...

 Well, EA just announced that they will heavily lean on MP in the future as that is apparently THE market where there's money to get. So I am not too surprised anymore that SP got botched in such a way that you are more or less forced to play MP. It's so much easier to cash in loads of money by constantly selling small 2-3$ packs on MP then programming a decent game and maybe sell a DLC or two. Who would blame EA to go where the money is <_<

I don't give a single damn about MP. If I want to play with others I would play an MMO (which I did extensively in the past and it only resulted in me getting annoyed with people). I will stick to SP. If that means manipulating my files with glibbed to manually inserting EMS to get the best ending so be it. It's lame but apparently the only way at the moment!


Exactly.

I don't blame them either but it gets pretty clear that our ways will part. Not because I'm raving about not buying any Bioware game anymore, but because it just looks like as if they won't produce anything of interest to me in the foreseeable future.


I'm leaning this way too - thank god for the indie scene.

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when the servers go down we'll all be in the same boat, and if it's anything like EA's other game Saboteur the DLC will go with it, so any assets added will be missing again and we'll go back to a broken single player game with a dodgy face import