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[Gtacatalina]

Thargorichiban wrote...

Bioware doesn't do "keeping promises" when it comes to statements they made about the game before it came out.

This is Bioware 2012, not Bioware 2007.

Yes it's very sad

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 31 mai 2012 - 09:51 .

[Gtacatalina]

[quote]7isMagic wrote...

Bringing this into focus:

We have had numerous threads on this "invisible" issue - a great many locked down over the course of these past few months.  We keep going around in circles on this issue each and every time an EMS thread is created:

1.   Folks pop in and tell us that reaching 4,000 EMS is possible without multiplayer or other modes of play though it has been proven there simply aren't enough War Assets in the game to support this assertion. No one, as far as I know, has ever proven 4K is reachable with SP alone.  Most likely, folks are getting EMS and TMS confused.

2.  Others simply say "Engage in a little MP to get to 4K EMS, what's the big deal?"  Sure, MP may be fun but not everyone has access to  MP - lack of an internet connection or a connection that is too slow to support MP.  Some simply do not want to engage in that particular mode of play.

3. Others ask 'Why does it matter?" What's all the fuss?"  It's just a short breath scene - YouTube it and be done with it.   Do we, as gamers, know - really know - what that breath scene truly represents?   What if it has significant impact on future DLC or even the upcoming EC?   One cannot discount its significance quite yet. As such, shouldn't everyone be able to reach that scene no matter the mode of play?

4.  Others, myself included, wondering why this issue came to rear its ugly head in the first place. Speculation abound:  Bug or intentional?

These have been the four main lines of discussion within this and similar EMS threads that have popped up here over the past few months (only to be locked down one after the other). 

At the end of the day, it all boils down to one simple fact:  We were promised an SP experience supplemented with MP and other modes of play.  SP was not going to be affected by MP in any way.  That was the premise upon which I bought the game - and expect a great many more worldwide also believed this was the case.  I placed my trust in Bioware to hold to this - they didn't.    That's the REAL issue here.  

Adding salt to the wound, Bioware's apparent unwillingness to honestly and openly address this issue in an official manner.   Reprehensible.[/quote]
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[paul165]

Entertainingly the patch doesn't appear to work anyway so it doesn't really seem worth getting stressed over it not fixing anything major in SP.

Does make you wonder what happened to QA for ME3 though.

[tbb033]

paul165 wrote...

Does make you wonder what happened to QA for ME3 though.

Isn't that what we've gotten stuck doing?

[RAF1940]

This didn't anger me too much because I enjoyed the MP, but it would seriously ****** me off if I were in the situation I was in when ME2 was released (no internet connection).

[dekkerd]

Chris mentioned it in the 1.03 thread.
http://social.biowar...6459/3#12277880

Those that have Internet but not Xbox live(you exist I've heard) get free multiplayer this weekend in the US.

[abaris]

dekkerd wrote...

Those that have Internet but not Xbox live(you exist I've heard) get free multiplayer this weekend in the US.

First and foremost: The issue obviously is about not wanting to do multiplayer. Second, the US isn't the world and xbox users aren't either.

[dekkerd]

abaris wrote...

dekkerd wrote...

Those that have Internet but not Xbox live(you exist I've heard) get free multiplayer this weekend in the US.

First and foremost: The issue obviously is about not wanting to do multiplayer. Second, the US isn't the world and xbox users aren't either.

And since I said nothing of the sort, what's your point?

The issue is SP content cannot be accessed via SP alone. Whether you like MP or not is irrelevant.

A free weekend in some countries(look it up if you care) will help some get the ending they desire this weekend if they wish. Sorry for mentioning good news, I'll try to stay negative next time. 

Modifié par dekkerd, 31 mai 2012 - 09:03 .

[SalsaDMA]

tbb033 wrote...

paul165 wrote...

Does make you wonder what happened to QA for ME3 though.

Isn't that what we've gotten stuck doing?

They're taking crowdbased stuff to their hearts;)

Crowdbased bugtesting and QA

gotta admit they're clever actually charging money for such things rather than paying for it like it's usually done

[Gtacatalina]

dekkerd wrote...
The issue is SP content cannot be accessed via SP alone.

Exactly, and Bioware said that multiplayer would not interfere with the single player game. That of course is not the case, and for the past nearly 3 months we have tried to get Bioware to acknowledge this issue, without much success.

Whether you like MP or not is irrelevant

It is extremely relevant. I do not like multiplayer and I bought the game in good faith from Bioware that I wouldn't have to play multiplayer to effect the game.

A free weekend in some countries(look it up if you care) will help some get the ending they desire this weekend if they wish. Sorry for mentioning good news, I'll try to stay negative next time. 

That is great news for those people that like to play multiplayer.

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 31 mai 2012 - 09:37 .

[dekkerd]

Gtacatalina

It is extremely relevant. I do not like multiplayer and I bought the game in good faith from Bioware that I wouldn't have to play multiplayer to effect the game.

Then use an app to raise GR. Now do you see why your feelings about MP aren't relevant?

 The only thing that matters is you can't get it done in SP alone, despite assurances you could.
Whether you like MP or not doesn't matter, whether you have an iPad doesn't matter. The fact you have to use something other than SP is ALL that matters. 

Modifié par dekkerd, 31 mai 2012 - 09:50 .

[coolbeans]

Gtacatalina wrote...

dekkerd wrote...
The issue is SP content cannot be accessed via SP alone.

Exactly, and Bioware said that multiplayer would not interfere with the single player game. That of course is not the case, and for the past nearly 3 months we have tried to get Bioware to acknowledge this issue, without much success.

Whether you like MP or not is irrelevant

It is extremely relevant. I do not like multiplayer and I bought the game in good faith from Bioware that I wouldn't have to play multiplayer to effect the game.

A free weekend in some countries(look it up if you care) will help some get the ending they desire this weekend if they wish. Sorry for mentioning good news, I'll try to stay negative next time. 

That is great news for those people that like to play multiplayer.

What he said

[ijustwanttousethesearchfunction]

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.



[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

Modifié par ijustwanttousethesearchfunction, 31 mai 2012 - 10:23 .

[sparkyo42]

dekkerd wrote...

Gtacatalina

It is extremely relevant. I do not like multiplayer and I bought the game in good faith from Bioware that I wouldn't have to play multiplayer to effect the game.

Then use an app to raise GR. Now do you see why your feelings about MP aren't relevant?

 The only thing that matters is you can't get it done in SP alone, despite assurances you could.
Whether you like MP or not doesn't matter, whether you have an iPad doesn't matter. The fact you have to use something other than SP is ALL that matters. 

Does a free Iwhatever or Android come with the game? No it doesn't so that's not an answer.

[Gtacatalina]

dekkerd wrote...

Gtacatalina

It is extremely relevant. I do not like multiplayer and I bought the game in good faith from Bioware that I wouldn't have to play multiplayer to effect the game.

Then use an app to raise GR. Now do you see why your feelings about MP aren't relevant?

I don't have an ipad or iphone
My feelings on multiplayer are still relevant.
 

The only thing that matters is you can't get it done in SP alone, despite assurances you could.
Whether you like MP or not doesn't matter, whether you have an iPad doesn't matter. The fact you have to use something other than SP is ALL that matters. 

Yeah Okay... so saying what you have just said, why did you put a post about a free multiplayer weekend on this thread then?

[dekkerd]

ijustwanttousethesearchfunction wrote...

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.



[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

Thank god someone else noticed. 

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

[dekkerd]

Gtacatalina wrote...
Yeah Okay... so saying what you have just said, why did you put a post about a free multiplayer weekend on this thread then?

dekkerd wrote...

A free weekend in some countries(look it up if you care) will help some get the ending they desire this weekend if they wish. Sorry for mentioning good news, I'll try to stay negative next time. 

[tishyw]

7isMagic wrote...

The impetus for this post is two-fold:

a.  As Krogangreetings suggested recently, I think it is a good idea to re-post (on occasion at the top of a new page in this thread) something I wrote a few days ago - so that folks who are new to this discussion are familiarized with the history of our talks so far regarding the EMS (War Asset) deficit in Mass Effect 3.  

b.  And to do what I can to keep this all-important issue (thread) alive in plain view - as tishyw suggested in a very recent post.   It is in the hope those who haven't bought the game yet will know the TRUTH regarding this game's SP-only dysfunction BEFORE they part with their hard-earned money.  

And so...

7isMagic wrote...

Bringing this into focus:

We have had numerous threads on this "invisible" issue - a great many locked down over the course of these past few months.  We keep going around in circles on this issue each and every time an EMS thread is created:

1.   Folks pop in and tell us that reaching 4,000 EMS is possible without multiplayer or other modes of play though it has been proven there simply aren't enough War Assets in the game to support this assertion. No one, as far as I know, has ever proven 4K is reachable with SP alone.  Most likely, folks are getting EMS and TMS confused.

2.  Others simply say "Engage in a little MP to get to 4K EMS, what's the big deal?"  Sure, MP may be fun but not everyone has access to  MP - lack of an internet connection or a connection that is too slow to support MP.  Some simply do not want to engage in that particular mode of play.

3. Others ask 'Why does it matter?" What's all the fuss?"  It's just a short breath scene - YouTube it and be done with it.   Do we, as gamers, know - really know - what that breath scene truly represents?   What if it has significant impact on future DLC or even the upcoming EC?   One cannot discount its significance quite yet. As such, shouldn't everyone be able to reach that scene no matter the mode of play?

4.  Others, myself included, wondering why this issue came to rear its ugly head in the first place. Speculation abound:  Bug or intentional?

These have been the four main lines of discussion within this and similar EMS threads that have popped up here over the past few months (only to be locked down one after the other). 

At the end of the day, it all boils down to one simple fact:  We were promised an SP experience supplemented with MP and other modes of play.  SP was not going to be affected by MP in any way.  That was the premise upon which I bought the game - and expect a great many more worldwide also believed this was the case.  I placed my trust in Bioware to hold to this - they didn't.    That's the REAL issue here.  

Adding salt to the wound, Bioware's apparent unwillingness to honestly and openly address this issue in an official manner.   Reprehensible.

[Icinix]

Thargorichiban wrote...

Bioware doesn't do "keeping promises" when it comes to statements they made about the game before it came out.

This is Bioware 2012, not Bioware 2007.

Indeed. In 2008 or there abouts I was roaming around telling everyone to take a wait and see approach to what would become of BioWare, and everyone was just over-reacting, there is no way BioWare would change due to the circumstances that occured.

I now feel dirty and horrible and to all those people I told to get over it and stop whinging - I give you full permission to biatch slap me as hard as you want, for I most horribly, horribly wrong.

[MaxQuartiroli]

ijustwanttousethesearchfunction wrote...

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

Why didn't he say it in THIS thread?
Am I supposed to read every thread in BSN in order to find the informations? Shouldn't I find them in the threads where they are discussed?

[abaris]

dekkerd wrote...

Then use an app to raise GR. Now do you see why your feelings about MP aren't relevant?

Same old hat.

Some people don't have smartphones. Some people don't use apps for a reason. The reason is being informed what apps are capable of aside from their obvious purpose. And to top it off, you have to pay for that piece of junk.

[coolbeans]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

ijustwanttousethesearchfunction wrote...

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

Why didn't he say it in THIS thread?
Am I supposed to read every thread in BSN in order to find the informations? Shouldn't I find them in the threads where they are discussed?

Silly monkey, didn't you realise that you're supposed to read random twitter replies for updates on this, at least that was Mr Priestlys last statement back when the EMS megathread went LOCKDOWN

[CG Drum]

Same old same old - no idea of when or if we will see this issue sorted and people telling me to play MP (when I have no interest in it!) or use an App I dont have to get high enough EMS. "sigh"

Well enoughs enough - so for now I am off to play Skyrim!

Will check back but won't be posting so frequently. Beginning to get really annoyed/fed up about this now and don't want to lose the love for the game due to being ignored and put on hold by the Bioware bods.

[MaxQuartiroli]

coolbeans wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

ijustwanttousethesearchfunction wrote...

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

Why didn't he say it in THIS thread?
Am I supposed to read every thread in BSN in order to find the informations? Shouldn't I find them in the threads where they are discussed?

Silly monkey, didn't you realise that you're supposed to read random twitter replies for updates on this, at least that was Mr Priestlys last statement back when the EMS megathread went LOCKDOWN

Oh my.. how could I forget? Twitter is the new official channel choosen by PR department to give us official updates.
Shame on me that I don't even have a twitter account. I really deserve to remain in the darkness 

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 01 juin 2012 - 11:48 .

[Ravenmyste]

Okay - the really long thread from this part of the forum was closed,
the one about not being able to reach 4000+EMS in SP, and we were all
sent off to our different platform forums.... but I just want to ask a
quick question or two....

Because its not even remotely true i proved it, on my xbox recently and with brand new spanking shep that you can 8139 EMS to be exact without mp,and my wife proved on her laptop with a fem shep to be exact 7534 so yes it is possible, so hence why it was closed

and the EMS bug that i think they was trying to i fix which i reported last week before the patch that my recently play thru had lost 2k in ems seems to been fixed with this patch

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 01 juin 2012 - 12:02 .