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[dekkerd]

Ravenmyste wrote...


Because its not even remotely true i proved it, on my xbox recently and with brand new spanking shep that you can 8139 EMS to be exact without mp,and my wife proved on her laptop with a fem shep to be exact 7534 so yes it is possible, so hence why it was closed

and the EMS bug that i think they was trying to i fix which i reported last week before the patch that my recently play thru had lost 2k in ems seems to been fixed with this patch

Oh, it's you again. 

lets ignore the the fact you are ONCE AGAIN confusing EMS and TMS. Wait, lets not. Stop doing that. the wife's total isn't high enough so why mention it?

You've promoted n7. You realize that counts for all playthroughs right?

[dekkerd]

abaris wrote...

dekkerd wrote...

Then use an app to raise GR. Now do you see why your feelings about MP aren't relevant?

Same old hat.

Some people don't have smartphones. Some people don't use apps for a reason. The reason is being informed what apps are capable of aside from their obvious purpose. And to top it off, you have to pay for that piece of junk.

Did you actually read the conversation? Anything at all after you last posted? This is BSN, of course not. Please continoue to knee jerk. 

[freler31]

Ravenmyste read this:

[quote]7isMagic wrote...

Bringing this into focus:

We have had numerous threads on this "invisible" issue - a great many locked down over the course of these past few months.  We keep going around in circles on this issue each and every time an EMS thread is created:

1.   Folks pop in and tell us that reaching 4,000 EMS is possible without multiplayer or other modes of play though it has been proven there simply aren't enough War Assets in the game to support this assertion. No one, as far as I know, has ever proven 4K is reachable with SP alone.  Most likely, folks are getting EMS and TMS confused.

2.  Others simply say "Engage in a little MP to get to 4K EMS, what's the big deal?"  Sure, MP may be fun but not everyone has access to  MP - lack of an internet connection or a connection that is too slow to support MP.  Some simply do not want to engage in that particular mode of play.

3. Others ask 'Why does it matter?" What's all the fuss?"  It's just a short breath scene - YouTube it and be done with it.   Do we, as gamers, know - really know - what that breath scene truly represents?   What if it has significant impact on future DLC or even the upcoming EC?   One cannot discount its significance quite yet. As such, shouldn't everyone be able to reach that scene no matter the mode of play?

4.  Others, myself included, wondering why this issue came to rear its ugly head in the first place. Speculation abound:  Bug or intentional?

These have been the four main lines of discussion within this and similar EMS threads that have popped up here over the past few months (only to be locked down one after the other). 

At the end of the day, it all boils down to one simple fact:  We were promised an SP experience supplemented with MP and other modes of play.  SP was not going to be affected by MP in any way.  That was the premise upon which I bought the game - and expect a great many more worldwide also believed this was the case.  I placed my trust in Bioware to hold to this - they didn't.    That's the REAL issue here.  

Adding salt to the wound, Bioware's apparent unwillingness to honestly and openly address this issue in an official manner.   Reprehensible.[/quote]
[/quote]

Specifically this:

[quote]  Most likely, folks are getting EMS and TMS confused. [/quote] 

Modifié par freler31, 01 juin 2012 - 12:21 .

[dekkerd]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Why didn't he say it in THIS thread?
Am I supposed to read every thread in BSN in order to find the informations? Shouldn't I find them in the threads where they are discussed?

Because he was reading and actively posting over there when the issue came up, simple as that. And he hasn't participated here once. If he ever does it'll likely be a lock, so careful what you wish for. 

[abaris]

dekkerd wrote...

Did you actually read the conversation? Anything at all after you last posted? This is BSN, of course not. Please continoue to knee jerk. 

And what's got that to do with anything?

You're advertising using some of these apps. Why? Because you're comfortable with that junk? More power to you and may the gods of advertising smile fondly on your daily routine and your adress book,

It doesn't change the original issue - getting all of the single player content by playing single player.

[Gtacatalina]

coolbeans wrote...

What he said

What she said

[dekkerd]

abaris wrote...

You're advertising using some of these apps. Why? Because you're comfortable with that junk? More power to you and may the gods of advertising smile fondly on your daily routine and your adress book,

It doesn't change the original issue - getting all of the single player content by playing single player.

But,

abaris wrote...

First and foremost: The issue obviously is about not wanting to do multiplayer. Second, the US isn't the world and xbox users aren't either.

So your position has evolved?

[Gtacatalina]

CG Drum wrote...

Same old same old - no idea of when or if we will see this issue sorted and people telling me to play MP (when I have no interest in it!) or use an App I dont have to get high enough EMS. "sigh"

Yep nothing's changed!

Well enoughs enough - so for now I am off to play Skyrim! .

Great game, I've just finished the main story quests. I love just roaming around Skyrim seeing what I'll come across next.

[Gtacatalina]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

ijustwanttousethesearchfunction wrote...

Let's focus on the good news.

Chris Priestly wrote...

I can say that this is not planned
to be the final patch and issues not fixed in 1.03 (story issues, PS3
framerate, EMS, etc) are being investigated for the next patch. As with
any bug, if it is not fixed, that is likely because it is not an easy
fix. That doesn't mean that it won't ever be fixed, just that it was not
ready by the time this patch was complete.

At least we've gotten a bioware emplyee to say EMS finally.

Why didn't he say it in THIS thread?
Am I supposed to read every thread in BSN in order to find the informations? Shouldn't I find them in the threads where they are discussed?

It would be nice to get a dev on this thread to give us a bit more information, but you know I think a bit of pride has been hurt, especially with all the ''You can get 4000EMs - We do not lie LOCKDOWN'' posts that we had in the first six weeks, or they're just being stubborn old mules, or most probably they don't care.
Either way extremely bad customer service.

[abaris]

dekkerd wrote...

So your position has evolved?

Nope. It just so happens that you brought up apps. Which, since I'm working in PR, is the last thing I would recommend using.

Working in PR and media for the better part of 20 years makes me avoid apps and social media. If you got the time, you should probably read what's in the smallprint of the app TOS. Might be nothing, but I would be highly surprised if you don't sign away quite a bit of your privacy by accepting.

[dekkerd]

abaris wrote...

dekkerd wrote...

So your position has evolved?

Nope. It just so happens that you brought up apps. Which, since I'm working in PR, is the last thing I would recommend using.

Working in PR and media for the better part of 20 years makes me avoid apps and social media. If you got the time, you should probably read what's in the smallprint of the app TOS. Might be nothing, but I would be highly surprised if you don't sign away quite a bit of your privacy by accepting.

Agreed. Although we may disagree on whether that horse has left the barn though. 
Lets get back on topic. We have a BSN mention from bioware that it's still on the radar. More than we had before. 

[ManUnderMask]

I love how they're still investigating something that the fans have already done for them. THQ used the same line on their non existent patch for Undisputed 3.

[coolbeans]

ManUnderMask wrote...

I love how they're still investigating something that the fans have already done for them. THQ used the same line on their non existent patch for Undisputed 3.

It does seem like they are just burying the issue, which I suppose is understandable as it makes a complete LIE of a lot of their pre and post release statements.  If only they had released the edition of ME3 that Thomas Abrams played, apparently he managed to achieve 4000+ ems without multiplayer <_<

Am I the only one who feels that locking down the megathread (which broke no forum rules as far as I could see) was a dick move of the most collosal proportions, I know its embarrasing to be caught in a lie, but come on guys, own your mistakes, I'm disappointed you lied, I 'd respect you more if you admitted to it.

[7isMagic]

The longer this "invisible" issue remains in limbo, the more outraged I become. My goodness, how hard could it be to issue an official statement in this matter?

What's more, how hard can it be to issue a fix for this? Are there any game-making tech wizards currently reading what I have written in this reply? Or is there anyone who knows someone in the industry and could inquire:

From a solely technical standpoint, how hard is it to make a slight adjustment to the GR modifier or add more war assets? Is the time we've waited for this necessary?

Modifié par 7isMagic, 02 juin 2012 - 04:51 .

[av196vad]

Why the silence BioWare? Your (soon-to-be former) fans are wondering why you mislead us on this issue before release and then zipped your lip after release.

[Dimensio]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Okay - the really long thread from this part of the forum was closed,
the one about not being able to reach 4000+EMS in SP, and we were all
sent off to our different platform forums.... but I just want to ask a
quick question or two....

Because its not even remotely true i proved it, on my xbox recently and with brand new spanking shep that you can 8139 EMS to be exact without mp,and my wife proved on her laptop with a fem shep to be exact 7534 so yes it is possible, so hence why it was closed

For what reason are you lying?

[Forsythia]

And yet another day without an acknowledgement of the issue. Investigating this issue shouldn't take too long (hell, they could just check all the threads on this subject) and fixing it should neither.

But please, put all your efforts in the multiplayer, as that is the cashcow nowadays.

[someone else]

the sad part is that mp is a better experience within its own parameters than SP - and its so easy to max out GR, SP EMS is reduced to irrelevance - but since the sp has near-zero replay appeal... this whole issue is irrelevant as well...

And if for some reason you are a devoted SP fan, there is still NO reason not to play MP - it is an excellent way to sharpen combat skills and experiment with builds - think Pinnacle Station on steriods.

[Kub666]

They actually know about the issue, confirmed it in PM like 3 months ago or something, The developer who was working on assets allegedly said that 3k EMS is nor possible without MP / iOS apps (this comes from Brenon Holmes, but the PM was not to me so I cannot prove it anyhow).

Surely they don't give a rat's ass about it though, as shown in the latest patch. MP is where the money is.

[abaris]

someone else wrote...

And if for some reason you are a devoted SP fan, there is still NO reason not to play MP - it is an excellent way to sharpen combat skills and experiment with builds - think Pinnacle Station on steriods.

Yup, but personally I consider Pinnacle station as one of the most boring gaming experiences I ever had. Along with a few other DLCs by different producers, namely the Anchorage expansion of Fallout 3.

That's not the reason why I play something called RPG. If I wanted a shooting experience I would buy a shooter, a real one, since even though I don't like these kind of games I'm still able to appreciate the effort some producers put into their products.

[Forsythia]

someone else wrote...

And if for some reason you are a devoted SP fan, there is still NO reason not to play MP - it is an excellent way to sharpen combat skills and experiment with builds - think Pinnacle Station on steriods.

And again, as said many times before, that is not the point. The point is BioWare told us we wouldn't have to play multiplayer at all to get every ending, and that is clearly not the case. They could have easily fixed it by now, but it's obvious they're ignoring the issue. That makes it seem it is deliberate.

I play the multiplayer sometimes, I even like it. It's not something I put many hours in, but it's fun to play a match when I have 20 minutes to spare. But the ending of a singleplayer trilogy should not depend on multiplayer. That's giving your singleplayer fans the finger.

[deatharmonic]

someone else wrote...

the sad part is that mp is a better experience within its own parameters than SP - and its so easy to max out GR, SP EMS is reduced to irrelevance - but since the sp has near-zero replay appeal... this whole issue is irrelevant as well...

And if for some reason you are a devoted SP fan, there is still NO reason not to play MP - it is an excellent way to sharpen combat skills and experiment with builds - think Pinnacle Station on steriods.

The 'theres no reason to not play MP' argument is ridiculous, you go tell that to people who don't have xbox live/cant afford to have it. Infact theres quite a few people on BSN with no net connection for their console. Bottom line is, theres no excuse for 4k ems not being available in SP, especially seeing as they said it would be.

[someone else]

Forsythia wrote...
The point is BioWare told us we wouldn't have to play multiplayer at all to get every ending, and that is clearly not the case.
....But the ending of a singleplayer trilogy should not depend on multiplayer. That's giving your singleplayer fans the finger.

...sure - I understand, but BW's middle digit is already raised in so many other directions..."Ah yes, promises to the fans, we have dismissed that claim"  - the EMS issue is just one more rock in our wheelbarrow...

[someone else]

deatharmonic wrote...

The 'theres no reason to not play MP' argument is ridiculous, you go tell that to people who don't have xbox live/cant afford to have it. Infact theres quite a few people on BSN with no net connection for their console. Bottom line is, theres no excuse for 4k ems not being available in SP, especially seeing as they said it would be.

Not familar with the console world so perhaps such issues are a bit distant for me - but I cannot believe that someone with enough discretionary income for an xbox and $60 for games cannot "afford" $5/mo for a gold subscription and I'm not sure why you cant use the free one anyway...and for those without internet connectivity, well that's like saying what about those PC players running linux on a pentium 4 - and can you even register or play the game without Origin or someother client?

I do agree with you in principle,though, but suspect the real answer is its an oversight due to BW cutting content, etc, in rushing the game out the door, and that they're relucant to admit that was the case for a variety of obvious reasons.

Modifié par someone else, 02 juin 2012 - 12:34 .

[deatharmonic]

someone else wrote...


Not familar with the console world so perhaps such issues are a bit distant for me - but I cannot believe that someone with enough discretionary income for an xbox and $60 for games cannot "afford" $5/mo for a gold subscription and I'm not sure why you cant use the free one anyway...and for those without internet connectivity, well that's like saying what about those PC players running linux on a pentium 4 - and can you even register or play the game without Origin or someother client?

 

I had my xbox 360 for about 4 years before getting xbox live, literally could not afford to have £5 gone from my account each month, i know a lot of others who also shared that. I had to save up for games so it wasn't a matter of getting a console then just buying games. I know you don't mean any offence but it irks me to see this naivety towards money issues a lot of people have. Also, xbox live silver (which is free) does not allow for playing multiplayer, only Gold does which you have to pay for.

As for console connectivity, I would have to find someone who has that issue, i know ive seen people mention it but i dont know the specifics.

someone else wrote... 

I do agree with you in principle,though, but suspect the real answer is its an oversight due to BW cutting content, etc, in rushing the game out the door, and that they're relucant to admit that was the case for a variety of obvious reasons.

Yeah, that does make sense.