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[7isMagic]

Before I begin, I appreciate Gtacatalina taking the time to assemble and post previous (locked down) EMS threads. (Unless you had them all bookmarked, it couldn't have been an easy task tracking them down - given this forum's atrocious search engine.) Many thanks! :-)

Well, here we are folks. Three months since ME3 was released and still no fix, much less acknowledgement of this issue in an OFFICIAL manner. The latter making this pill even more difficult to swallow.

One can only hope, at this point, that a fix will eventually come (it's my biggest worry now - Bioware won't correct it). Charging us for more war assets (in the form of future DLC) doesn't count (from an ethical standpoint). It would be just one more indication we were being misled from the very beginning.

Modifié par 7isMagic, 09 juin 2012 - 03:21 .

[abaris]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Be very carefull that website is heavilly monitored for piracy issues.

Not that I would recommend that site, but that's only a matter of a modified coalesced.bin. If you do a google, you probably find millions of them floating around. Better still, look up what you have to edit in order to raise the values and do it yourself. It works with wordpad and really is only a matter of minutes.

[Gtacatalina]

CG Drum wrote...

Will definetly not be pre-ordering anymore Bioware games - .

Same here.
After the disappointment of DA2 and then all the hyperbole and lies about multiplayer not effecting SP on ME3. I'm definitely going to wait for player reviews for DA3.

[Gtacatalina]

7isMagic wrote...

Before I begin, I appreciate Gtacatalina taking the time to assemble and post previous (locked down) EMS threads. (Unless you had them all bookmarked, it couldn't have been an easy task tracking them down - given this forum's atrocious search engine.) Many thanks! :-)

You're welcome

You're right it wasn't easy to track them down, silly search engine.

One can only hope, at this point, that a fix will eventually come (it's my biggest worry now - Bioware won't correct it). Charging us for more war assets (in the form of future DLC) doesn't count (from an ethical standpoint). It would be just one more indication we were being misled from the very beginning.

I hope I'm wrong, but the way Bioware have behaved about this isuue, first in denial - ''We do not lie'', then the ''LOCKDOWN'' treatment, the absolute silence from devs on the issue. I really don't think they are going to correct it, because I'm coming to believe it was meant to be like that all along.

[paul165]

^^agreed and then dlc will provide the needed assets so they can claim all endings are achievable SP only with a straight face in a particularly unpleasant variant of bribing your way to victory.

[Bogsnot]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Bogsnot wrote...

At least PC players can get around the issue. A kind soul has uploaded their local_profile.sav file to various torrent sites, with only MP missions completed to give 100%. Using it will strip away whatever achievements you have gained though. Not that they really mean much to PC players.

Get it Here.

As with anything of this sort, I recommend doing a full AV scan of the file(s) prior to unzipping/installing

Be very carefull that website is heavilly monitored for piracy issues.

lolwot?
TPB is like a gun. Its all legal to use until you do something illegal with it. Hell, even legit devs make use of TPB. (link)

Sharing a local_profile.sav is no worse than sharing your game save files. Considering masseffectsaves.com has been up and available for years, and nothing has happened to them, I doubt EA or Bioware would be stupid enough to take action against anyone who uses someone elses profile to fix the problem that Bioware created.
Given that these people are not playing MP anyway, it does not give them any form of advantage over other players.

[Hvlukas]

I really should reply to this topic, since I completely agree with more or less everything said.

I've nothing to add, but count me as another one annoyed, irritated and disappointed by this. Not what I paid money for. At all.

[G00N3R7883]

Haven't checked this thread in a while, but from reading the last couple of pages I see there's still been no progress made. Disappointing, but not surprising. It saddens me to see what Bioware has become. I never thought I'd see the day where I have to consider holding off buying a new Bioware game until I've checked for these kind of issues. But the longer this drags on, the more I lose trust in Bioware. And believe me, no matter how many years it takes for DA3/ME4/whatever to come out ... I have a long memory.

Modifié par G00N3R7883, 08 juin 2012 - 02:12 .

[Emphyr]

http://social.biowar...12478783-1.html

ems related... (i Think)

[dekkerd]

Emphyr wrote...

http://social.biowar...12478783-1.html

ems related... (i Think)

Nope, more a origin sucks thing. Hope support sorted it for you. 

[Tonymac]

Holding your breath, until you turn blue - until you die and your head explodes, will not fix this.

Overall, EMS matters little to none - the ending(s) will not change.

[dekkerd]

Tonymac wrote...

Holding your breath, until you turn blue - until you die and your head explodes, will not fix this.

Overall, EMS matters little to none - the ending(s) will not change.

Wow. That's kind of the problem you see, the ending does change. 

[royceclemens]

Tonymac wrote...

Holding your breath, until you turn blue - until you die and your head explodes, will not fix this.

Overall, EMS matters little to none - the ending(s) will not change.

Okay, let's just ignore the fact that the endings, even if only by being added to by the EC, will in fact change.  Let's say they won't at all, and there is no EC coming.

If they pull this crap when it doesn't matter now, they will be more emboldened to pull this crap later when it DOES matter.  This has to be stopped now.  You are not helping anyone, least of all yourself.

[Kub666]

Tonymac wrote...
Overall, EMS matters little to none - the ending(s) will not change.

Look how wrong you are. 

[Irenicus_Jon]

Just adjust RGB settings on your monitor to get different endings.
And watch the last two seconds of that very special ending on the tubes if you really want to.
It's not like this is the ONLY thing Bioware lied about ME3.

[dekkerd]

Irenicus_Jon wrote...

Just adjust RGB settings on your monitor to get different endings.
And watch the last two seconds of that very special ending on the tubes if you really want to.
It's not like this is the ONLY thing Bioware lied about ME3.

Might as well just watch the whole game on YouTube, right?
Looking at what you've registered, possibly the case...

[paul165]

No it's not but unlike most of the other stuff it is:

a)easy to conclusively prove making it difficult to argue against.
b)easy for Bioware to fix
c)affected by the EC hopefully giving them more motivation to fix it.

Also does it really matter that it wasn't the only thing they lied about - that's like saying it's ok you robbed me because you robbed my neighbour as well.

It is not OK; it is not acceptable and if we just go with it future Bioware games are going to take this as their business model.

You want to have to pay for endings; or pay for devs to honour pre-release commitments? Because I don't.

[pmac_tk421]

I think the best plan for them is to wait for an SP DLC and tack on some war assets to it. Best solution I can think of. I'd imagine its low priority right now though since alot of players(like me) play MP and between galactic readiness and N7 ops team war assets we're fine.

Modifié par pmac_tk421, 09 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[7isMagic]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

I think the best plan for them is to wait for an SP DLC and tack on some war assets to it. Best solution I can think of. I'd imagine its low priority right now though since alot of players(like me) play MP and between galactic readiness and N7 ops team war assets we're fine.

I respectfully disagree.  It is not the "best" solution, at least not from where I am sitting. 

The "best" solution, from a purely ethical standpoint, is for Bioware to own up to this and fix it.   It is the only way I can even begin to consider trusting them again - the operative word being "consider."   Bioware has violated my trust in them and they will have to work hard to gain it back.   Having to pay for something that was supposed to be in the game in the first place is unacceptable. 

[dekkerd]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

I think the best plan for them is to wait for an SP DLC and tack on some war assets to it. Best solution I can think of. I'd imagine its low priority right now though since alot of players(like me) play MP and between galactic readiness and N7 ops team war assets we're fine.

Nope, needs to be patched for free. Paid DLC unacceptable. doesn't matter if the majority can get around it(replying on iPad, so...) game needs to work as advertised. 

[paul165]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

I think the best plan for them is to wait for an SP DLC and tack on some war assets to it. Best solution I can think of. I'd imagine its low priority right now though since alot of players(like me) play MP and between galactic readiness and N7 ops team war assets we're fine.

So... they should sell a broken product and then charge you to fix it?

And I'm glad you're fine this time, I am. What about next time they do it because people find it acceptable and the only way to get the best ending is to play MP buying packs to resupply medigel and grenades at $1 a time and paying for an I whatever app that you have to give personal information to.

Because that is the way they are going if everyone says this sort of stunt is acceptable.

We are already talking about a game that doesn't even reliably launch on PC anymore - how much are you willing to pay for them to fix that?.

[Ravennus]

Hmmm.... took a month or so off from this, hoping to get some better perspective and come back to see at least some acknowledgement...

*sigh*

As sad as it is... here is where I stand..

It's over. As a single player game, the primary lifespan of the game is done.
ME3 has been out for 3 months now, and the majority have already bought it and finished it.

So the damage has been done.
They can fix it now, but that scar will always be there for many of us.

If anything this whole experience has taught me the true value of company brand names (read: worthless) and that I should follow individual developers that I enjoy more than any corporate name.

Modifié par Ravennus, 10 juin 2012 - 06:57 .

[Grubas]

Ravennus wrote...

Hmmm.... took a month or so off from this, hoping to get some better perspective and come back to see at least some acknowledgement...

*sigh*

As sad as it is... here is where I stand..

It's over. As a single player game, the primary lifespan of the game is done.
ME3 has been out for 3 months now, and the majority have already bought it and finished it.

So the damage has been done.
They can fix it now, but that scar will always be there for many of us.

If anything this whole experience has taught me the true value of company brand names (read: worthless) and that I should follow individual developers that I enjoy more than any corporate name.

B-But what about the replayability? You know like back then with ME2...

Modifié par Grubas, 10 juin 2012 - 08:36 .

[paul165]

Pretty much this. I have sent one final PM to Chris Priestly to see if I can get a clear response within a reasonable time frame but I sadly think it is unlikely.

Once that's done I wash my hands of ME3 and pre-orders of Bioware games. I'll check out the fan reviews of DA3 and if that gets good reviews I'll pick it up on budget if not I'll just walk away from the brand all together.

How the mighty have fallen.

[freler31]

Two things kill me about this issue:

1. If it was intentional, how did they think we wouldn't find out about it? One of the strengths of forums like this is comparing notes and figuring out the mechanics of the game. Coupled with the easiness of PC players able to dig through game files to get raw data it was bound to happen, and sooner rather than later.

2. If it wasn't intentional, why is it an issue for them. Bugs like this happen all the time. What was wrong with saying three months ago "Oops sorry guys, we'll get on this asap." A little irritating sure but I think we all would have accepted that things like that just happen sometimes. Why all the resistance when we have literally proven that it exists?

I'm not sure which one is more depressing.