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[3DandBeyond]

Of course the MP requirement isn't a bug-it is said to be a requirement for single player success in an MP strategy guide on the 360.

I like MP ok, but for several reasons I find it really annoying. It takes about 20 minutes to complete a mission. If I don't wear a mic, someone complains, but most games I get into I get the real pleasure of listening to people chew, talk on the phone, one guy vomited, another coughed up a hairball the size of a poodle from the sound of it, others make out with someone, babies crying, dogs barking constantly, and so on. Yes, I just love mics.

Then, you use credits for packs and they suck-I don't use a shotgun, so every rail amp I get is for a shotgun. I don't play as an Engineer and so, I get level up points for the Engineer-my Engineer went from level 1 to 15 without me ever playing it. I get garbage in packs so I really can't see paying for them.

After deciding upon equipment to use, waiting 5 minutes for people to ready up, messaging one guy to do so, the game starts, and someone gets kicked-server problem or they just don't like being last or something. And then, maybe 2 of us are left and the other guy leaves, so it's just me. I might last a few waves, but having to hack something or kill specific targets gets me, so the mission fails and I lose the equipment I used.

Then, there are the mission bugs and so on, and it's not just a few 20 minute missions anymore.

[coolbeans]

paul165 wrote...

If it was just for spoilers they could
have edited a couple of posts and put a warning instead they moved the
thread to an area you can only access if you have purchased the game.

To be honest, I am amazed they didn't just bust into the thread and go LOCKDOWN, I've not seen them move threads much.

paul165 wrote...
I'm
sure that a popular thread that proves the official FAQ wrong being
moved so that potential customers can't see it is pure coincidence on
their part. Just like them not replying to the thread in 3 months or,
or, or..

I blame server hiccups, Apparantly they are a bastard on this forum <_<

Modifié par coolbeans, 12 juin 2012 - 06:39 .

[coolbeans]

Opened a thread in General discussion http://social.biowar...3881/1#12534009

Wonder what its fate shall be....

[CG Drum]

Nice one - will make sure I keep up with that one.

Realise that there may appear to be some spoilers in this one now as the "gasp" has been discussed - but it's not really much of spoiler when we can't get it as SP only players!!!

[paul165]

coolbeans wrote...

Opened a thread in General discussion http://social.biowar...3881/1#12534009

Wonder what its fate shall be....

Thanks for that. Who knows what its fate shall be it seems to be almost completely random these days - they will lock threads talking about gameplay difficultly but not polls about how much people feel Bioware lied.

Madness.

[Helios969]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Of course the MP requirement isn't a bug-it is said to be a requirement for single player success in an MP strategy guide on the 360.

I like MP ok, but for several reasons I find it really annoying. It takes about 20 minutes to complete a mission. If I don't wear a mic, someone complains, but most games I get into I get the real pleasure of listening to people chew, talk on the phone, one guy vomited, another coughed up a hairball the size of a poodle from the sound of it, others make out with someone, babies crying, dogs barking constantly, and so on. Yes, I just love mics.

Then, you use credits for packs and they suck-I don't use a shotgun, so every rail amp I get is for a shotgun. I don't play as an Engineer and so, I get level up points for the Engineer-my Engineer went from level 1 to 15 without me ever playing it. I get garbage in packs so I really can't see paying for them.

After deciding upon equipment to use, waiting 5 minutes for people to ready up, messaging one guy to do so, the game starts, and someone gets kicked-server problem or they just don't like being last or something. And then, maybe 2 of us are left and the other guy leaves, so it's just me. I might last a few waves, but having to hack something or kill specific targets gets me, so the mission fails and I lose the equipment I used.

Then, there are the mission bugs and so on, and it's not just a few 20 minute missions anymore.

And people wonder why so many have no interest in MP.  Those images are enough to ensure I never join a MP community.

The whole system is BS.  "It's being looked into."  Yeah, right.  If it really were, a patch modifying the values to make 4K attainable would have already been released.  They're just dragging their feet, hoping they can manipulate enough people into playing to justify its development.

[Gtacatalina]

coolbeans wrote...

Opened a thread in General discussion http://social.biowar...3881/1#12534009

Wonder what its fate shall be....

Maybe they'll move it to the multiplayer forum

[dekkerd]

Saw the new thread and was afraid this was locked. Glad it was just moved instead. In a holding pattern until Ec now. Datapad still handling GR until this is sorted.

[CG Drum]

OMG the other thread is locked already!

Seems Bioware have time to lockdown but not to respond - why am i NOT surprised!

[dekkerd]

Other thread locked.
http://social.biowar.../index/12533881


Surfacing this one as we are waiting for a video

[Archer]

dekkerd wrote...

Other thread locked.
http://social.biowar.../index/12533881


Surfacing this one as we are waiting for a video

To be honest dek i dont think we need the video. If you look at his facebook screen shot its obvious he's promoted through MP, the alliance assets are way to high.

I just checked one of my older metagame saves where i was working to try and get the max possible EMS and my alliance assets stand at 1729, and that INCLUDES some MP promoting. I have seven complete playthroughs (surprising really with my feelings about Bioware and the ending lol) and i have NEVER hit an EMS of 4000.

This was also checked in offline mode and the N7 promotions still show, i got the impression he thinks they dont.

His video should be good for a laugh though

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 12 juin 2012 - 03:25 .

[dekkerd]

eveynameiwantisfekintaken wrote...



To be honest dek i dont think we need the video. If you look at his facebook screen shot its obvious he's promoted through MP, the alliance assets are way to high.

I just checked one of my older metagame saves where i was working to try and get the max possible EMS and my alliance assets stand at 1729, and that INCLUDES some MP promoting. I have seven complete playthroughs (surprising really with my feelings about Bioware and the ending lol) and i have NEVER hit an EMS of 4000.

His video should be good for a laugh though

Oh I know, but we've tried every other way to convince him.  4 complete playthoughs with 6 more holding before HQ. 
I guess the saddest part is its the principal for me, I have an iPad. 

[coolbeans]

I still dont see how a discussion of Biowares practice of misleading customers belongs in the storyline forum, Unless.......

........Maybe thats the real story of Mass effect 3, its not the story of humanities battle against the reapers, its a tale of how much a company can mislead and insult its customers, how very meta. <_<


How about it Chris, you read the thread, how about an update.........

.......Or god forbid an actual ACKNOWLEDGMENT of the issue that didn't originate on Twitter.

Also how about explaining why after a month of this thread being active in general discussion it was decided that it had to be moved, and with not even a pithy message in the thread? 

Also, Eight hours, went longer than I thought

Modifié par coolbeans, 12 juin 2012 - 03:32 .

[Ravenmyste]

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

[paul165]

Did think about messaging Priestly to protest the lock or at least suggest that if he's locking and moving threads he could at least have the basic courtesy to answer the question.

Then realised there would be no point what so ever. Just more confirming evidence of the way they are going to treat the issue.

Will pick up the EC then I think I'm done I just don't think Bioware is worth the bother anymore.

[paul165]

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

TMS of slightly under 7k so if you hadn't played multiplayer you would have an EMS of ~3k5. This only proves that you need to look up TMS vs. EMS I'm afraid. But thanks for providing the video.

[Ravenmyste]

now does anyone have any request please ask i will be happy to show anyhting in a video

[dekkerd]

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

Total miltitary strength=6991, not 8000
If you make GR 50%' EMS 3496

Therefore, our have not achieved your goal. 

Not sure what bug you are referring too. Sorry for giving you flak on your writing.

[Ravenmyste]

paul165 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

TMS of slightly under 7k so if you hadn't played multiplayer you would have an EMS of ~3k5. This only proves that you need to look up TMS vs. EMS I'm afraid. But thanks for providing the video.

doesnt mater... tms is not what you need its the EMS and as i said before the pic on face book that i  took of   just after i did destroy shows more tms and ems and once again  i had no mp on that play thru other wise  promoting would be shown in the game just like i said...

so yes  its is proof that you dont need it and the  video i also said that my ems and tms was lowered  from the pic shown so yes its offically that you can get over 4k with out mp and that  war assets are indeed bugged

 i will post what everyou wish to  shown but once again dont troll me on the games i played i played 5 times on my fem shep and 1 time  and one time on insanity not ng with out mp this is all i have to say proof was given and regardless of what you say abpout the proof thrown in you faces that IT IS POSSIBLE to get it

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 12 juin 2012 - 03:48 .

[HowlingSiren]

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

LOL! So you have 6991 TMS. If you play Single Player only, your galactic readiness stays at 50%. So divide 6991 by 2 (50% of TMS) to get your EMS: 3495. So you are wrong. Had you played SP only, you would have less than 4000. Case and point.

I think you're confused with your GR. You do not need to promote in MP to increase your GR. Playing MP is enough, as playing MP without promoting raises the percentage. Promoting raises your Alliance assets (included in TMS).

So in your video, your GR  is 94%, instead of the 50% it would have been had you been playing SP only. Which is why your EMS shows 6571.

Again, for the millionth time, if you play SP only your GR stays stuck at 50%. Meaning you have to divide your TMS by 2 to get your Single Player only EMS. So in your case, 3495.

Do you get it now?

[ed87]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Of course the MP requirement isn't a bug-it is said to be a requirement for single player success in an MP strategy guide on the 360.

I like MP ok, but for several reasons I find it really annoying. It takes about 20 minutes to complete a mission. If I don't wear a mic, someone complains, but most games I get into I get the real pleasure of listening to people chew, talk on the phone, one guy vomited, another coughed up a hairball the size of a poodle from the sound of it, others make out with someone, babies crying, dogs barking constantly, and so on. Yes, I just love mics.

Then, you use credits for packs and they suck-I don't use a shotgun, so every rail amp I get is for a shotgun. I don't play as an Engineer and so, I get level up points for the Engineer-my Engineer went from level 1 to 15 without me ever playing it. I get garbage in packs so I really can't see paying for them.

After deciding upon equipment to use, waiting 5 minutes for people to ready up, messaging one guy to do so, the game starts, and someone gets kicked-server problem or they just don't like being last or something. And then, maybe 2 of us are left and the other guy leaves, so it's just me. I might last a few waves, but having to hack something or kill specific targets gets me, so the mission fails and I lose the equipment I used.

Then, there are the mission bugs and so on, and it's not just a few 20 minute missions anymore.

This is why i never play MP anymore. After 130 N7 levels, the frustrations of no text chat, EA server server disconnects mid-game, player disconnects ending games, and getting useless gear in unlocks became too much to bear. After playing MP constantly in the demo, i had already experienced most of its repetitive fun

During singleplayer, i did notice it was not possible for me to get a high enough EMS. But i went and finished the game anyway

At the moment i get my multiplayer fix from Tribes Ascend, I even pay real money for unlocks as i really like the work theyre doing and how they communicate with their community

Modifié par ed87, 12 juin 2012 - 03:47 .

[Ravenmyste]

Nina88 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

LOL! So you have 6991 TMS. If you play Single Player only, your galactic readiness stays at 50%. So divide 6991 by 2 (50% of TMS) to get your EMS: 3495. So you are wrong. Had you played SP only, you would have less than 4000. Case and point.

I think you're confused with your GR. You do not need to promote in MP to increase your GR. Playing MP is enough, as playing MP without promoting raises the percentage. Promoting raises your Alliance assets (included in TMS).

So in your video, your GR  is 94%, instead of the 50% it would have been had you been playing SP only. Which is why your EMS shows 6571.

Again, for the millionth time, if you play SP only your GR stays stuck at 50%. Meaning you have to divide your TMS by 2 to get your Single Player only EMS. So in your case, 3495.

Do you get it now?

as i said before... what do people have selective hearing and reading?   i said GR infects games regardless ONCE you plugged the game in to mp iot will infect all games!! regardless so youre wrong

[paul165]

No, just no. Read the second part of the sentence if you had not played multiplayer your EMS would be about 3500 with a TMS of 7000 because the default galactic readiness(GR) is 50% and it cannot be raised in SP. The video you provide has a GR of 94% which increases the EMS for any TMS as the formula is

EMS= TMS * GR%

so if you hadn't played multiplayer:

EMS=7000*50%
=3500

as you have played multiplayer:

EMS = 7000*94%
EMS = 6580

Get how it works?

[ArchDuck]

Chris Priestly wrote...
This belongs in teh Storyline or Gameplay diswcussion forum, which was why it was moved. Please use that thread.


LOCKDOWN!

So apparently that is why this thread was moved.

[Archer]

Ravenmyste wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch < proof of no mp again gr is infected  this game  becasue i connected to the xbox after i pulled the plug  on my game after start up dont mind my blathering

Nice. That actually proves your incorrect. These values are different from your facebook screen for a start and your EMS is only over 4000 here because you have played multiplayer and your readiness rating is 94%

Its obvious in the facebook screen shot you have promoted multiplayer characters as your alliance asset rating is far too high. Either that or its bugged (ie assets from other playthroughs are being counted)

To be fair Raven i think the issue is that you dont really understand how the GR, TMS and EMS ratings work. Again it has been proven, using data from the actual  game code that there isnt enough war assets in the single player game to get an EMS rating of 4000, or a TMS rating of 8000 if that helps clarify it.

Even Bioware themselves have acknowledged this.

Kudos for trying to prove your point but i am afraid you are 100% wrong. Not an opinion, its fact.

Thanks for taking the time to post the video though

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 12 juin 2012 - 04:05 .