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[Gtacatalina]

Forsythia wrote...

Gtacatalina wrote...

Still no news!

Please don't tell me this surprises you!

No it doesn't, I was in a hurry and I should have put this icon after it

[CG Drum]

But we all still keep coming back in the hope that Bioware will bless us with their prescence and a fix for this.

[Szuli]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Szuli wrote...

Yes, that kind of attitude is very annoying. First of all, I wonder how they would feel if they couldn't access a part of the game (especially if that was the only part that lets Shepard live) and somebody told them to just watch it on youtube. And second, there's also the principle of the whole thing: BW promised something that turned out to be totally false.

I really hope that the fact that a lot of people do not care about this issue does not affect whether or not it's going to be resolved.

I wish we could edit files on the PS3. But we're screwed not only because we can't, but also we could never play ME1, so we missed out on the fun and several war assets in ME3.

Since this could well be a bigger issue if not addressed and then if something in the EC depends upon it too, then the matter is compounded.

As it is right now, someone who does not have xbox live gold can't get that itty bitty "best" ending.  Or someone without a broadband connection. 

The big problem with this is a promise that was made was broken AND games are visual entities.  I've watched other videos on youtube of Shepards that do things.  Problem is, they aren't MY Shepard.  And yes, the 2 second thing is pathetic, unsatisfying and so on, but for many people it is the one glimmer of something beyond dismal and dreary and depressing.

And just in case you think this really isn't an issue, I've been in other threads where it's been discussed and others do feel it's an issue.  They also see it for what it is-a forced way to get players to a venue for crack cocaine type micro-transactions.  In theory I have no problem with these things, but only if the MP/SP tie in was not there.

As it is, I have both a PS3 and xbox and I get annoyed trying to keep the galactic readiness up.  I'm trying to promote enought teams to add to assets so that just in case they don't fix this for the EC and just in case the EC is good, I never have to play MP again if I don't want to.  The result is this is actually causing a lot of hatred for the MP as well, that just might not be there if we didn't feel forced into it.

I totally agree; watching something on youtube is not the same as experiencing it yourself with your Shepard.

The interesting thing is that the ONLY way to have that glimmer of hope right now is to play MP or outside apps. I think most people do want Shepard to survive and reunite with his/her LI, even if they don't admit it on the forums for fear of being ridiculed by some for wanting "rainbows and puppies". So, like in your case, those who don't want to see this story to end on such a depressing note are forced to play MP. Is this why this issue exists or is this why it still has not been fixed?...

Or is BW counting on people to buy future DLCs to add points so that they can finally have a better ending?

If the EC is good enough for us to pick up ME3 again and they still don't fix the SP EMS issue, then again only those who play MP would be able to see the kind of ending we want...

[ghost9191]

well i just hope they don't completely right off sp , and focus on mp. i would still like to have single player content and also this ems thing has bothered me also. Last night i got to 2000 ems points with mp so that should be enough to make it so i don't have to play mp again. i might down the road but grinding like i did really throw me off it

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 19 juin 2012 - 09:46 .

[3DandBeyond]

PleaseFixTheEMSIssue wrote...

Genocide? Are you talking about the Reapers, because I don't really consider killing them genocide.

The genocide is the destroy ending where you kill the geth and EDI.  A Shepard could have decided to help reunite the geth and quarians and may consider the geth people in the sense that they self determine and have a soul as Legion asked.  And in the scene in London where you say goodbye to everybody, EDI in my game told Shepard that Jeff may have unshackled her, but Shepard gave her life or made her alive, something like that.  Killing her is a horrible way to reward that feeling.  But all choices are ridiculously stupid and not something my Shepard would do.  Way to go, Bioware.

[coolbeans]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

When you promise that no single player content will be locked out you dont get to stick in easter eggs for multiplayer in the sp campaign.  It doesn't matter if the cutscene is Vega flossing his man parts with a towel, it shouldn't be cut out.

Although i agree on the quality of the endings, they could have stuck in an ending where the protaganist was raped by angry velociraptors and it would have been a "better" ending.

[coolbeans]

Nother thread locked down in the general discusion forum, quality moderating that is...

[3DandBeyond]

coolbeans wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

When you promise that no single player content will be locked out you dont get to stick in easter eggs for multiplayer in the sp campaign.  It doesn't matter if the cutscene is Vega flossing his man parts with a towel, it shouldn't be cut out.

Although i agree on the quality of the endings, they could have stuck in an ending where the protaganist was raped by angry velociraptors and it would have been a "better" ending.

Now that's DLC I'd pay for.  But seriously, it is relatively easy to come up with a better ending and it was right there in front of their faces, but no, they chose something else.  And the "best" ending is so awful and illogical, but it's the only thing a lot of us have to hold onto.

[Szuli]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

Logically the best ending would require the most amount of work and points and whatever. The only ending where Shepard might survive (if we can take half a breath of somebody in an N7 armor that) is the one that requires the most amount of points (which is impossible for SP players). Maybe it was an Easter egg for MP players but there should not be any story related part in the game that is not accessible to SP players.

For me destroy is the best ending anyway. Sorry for EDI and the Geth but my goal through the games was to destroy the Reapers. Besides it seems like the star kid didn't tell the whole truth anyway, so EDI and the Geth might survive.

As for the friends abandoning you, that happens in all three endings.

[knightnblu]

I don't believe for a second that SP got "botched." It got submerged in order to force you to play MP if you want the best ending. You can't be familiar with how EA conducts its business and believe that not being able to get a high EMS in SP was a mistake. That isn't how they operate.

[3DandBeyond]

Szuli wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

Logically the best ending would require the most amount of work and points and whatever. The only ending where Shepard might survive (if we can take half a breath of somebody in an N7 armor that) is the one that requires the most amount of points (which is impossible for SP players). Maybe it was an Easter egg for MP players but there should not be any story related part in the game that is not accessible to SP players.

For me destroy is the best ending anyway. Sorry for EDI and the Geth but my goal through the games was to destroy the Reapers. Besides it seems like the star kid didn't tell the whole truth anyway, so EDI and the Geth might survive.

As for the friends abandoning you, that happens in all three endings.

I think it's fairly obvious that the kid and reapers want you to choose synthesis-it's what Sovereign talked about and kind of what they keep trying to achieve.  Destroy is supposed to look good, but come at a horrific cost-so they want you to not pick it (the kid and reapers).  Control just doesn't make much sense and seems so much like a lie.  Of course, none of them make sense, really.

It's so very logical for someone to have to get within 5 feet of something in order to actually be able to shoot it and explosions are always weaker if the god player plays MP.

You are free to think what you want to of Destroy and you'd be right.  The problem is, that's not how everyone sees it and a lot of people see it as I do-Destroy is genocide for a Shepard that cared about the geth and EDI.  And we should be right, too.

The fact that Bioware did not take into account the different feelings or circumstances and choices in the game (for instance what I feel my Paragon Shepard could and couldn't do), means they made a huge mistake.

They compounded this by creating an unbelievable scenario for a totally inadequate "best" outcome.  EMS needs to be fixed, but it is just one of many things.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 20 juin 2012 - 01:35 .

[Szuli]

I agree the problem is that all three endings are terrible. If I actually had a real choice I wouldn't choose any of those 3 paths. My perfect ending would be to fight the Reapers with the help of all the races and ships that Shepard gathered, defeat the Reapers, celebrate the victory (I don't mean a medal ceremony, just some good old fashioned high five-ing will do), settle down with my LI and see the galaxy rebuild and get along. But I guess that's not edgy and artsy enough.

So yeah, I agree that EMS is not the only thing that needs to be fixed.

[3DandBeyond]

Szuli wrote...

I agree the problem is that all three endings are terrible. If I actually had a real choice I wouldn't choose any of those 3 paths. My perfect ending would be to fight the Reapers with the help of all the races and ships that Shepard gathered, defeat the Reapers, celebrate the victory (I don't mean a medal ceremony, just some good old fashioned high five-ing will do), settle down with my LI and see the galaxy rebuild and get along. But I guess that's not edgy and artsy enough.

So yeah, I agree that EMS is not the only thing that needs to be fixed.

I agree 100% with this.

As far as the artsy part-the error there again is the dev's.  They took a painting of reality, artwork that spoke to people's emotions and told a story, then in the end they diverged and decided to create some surrealistic work of "art" based upon the futility of life, acheivement, and the inability to succeed with a huge dash of suicide to boot.  If that's art, then it's beauty is not meant for the masses, but for a select few.

The game had in it reaper tag, calibration jokes, EDI and Liara "hair" jokes, and Shepard's horrible dancing, and at the end we are supposed to think the only way to end it is edgy and artsy?  I know you are right-that's what some people say--Shepard should die, should sacrifice, should blah blah blah.  Yeah, because death is so much more artistic and beautiful and touching than living.

Well, so far my Shepard has had a pretty sucky life, can't she just once have some moments of real happiness where an ungrateful galaxy isn't looking for her to save their sorry butts or a moment where everyone isn't calling her crazy to try to get them to save themselves when they don't see a threat.  I'm pretty sure Shepard earned the right to be alive and happy at the end.  That's how I feel.  At least it should be a possibility.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 20 juin 2012 - 01:55 .

[Szuli]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Szuli wrote...

I agree the problem is that all three endings are terrible. If I actually had a real choice I wouldn't choose any of those 3 paths. My perfect ending would be to fight the Reapers with the help of all the races and ships that Shepard gathered, defeat the Reapers, celebrate the victory (I don't mean a medal ceremony, just some good old fashioned high five-ing will do), settle down with my LI and see the galaxy rebuild and get along. But I guess that's not edgy and artsy enough.

So yeah, I agree that EMS is not the only thing that needs to be fixed.

I agree 100% with this.

As far as the artsy part-the error there again is the dev's.  They took a painting of reality, artwork that spoke to people's emotions and told a story, then in the end they diverged and decided to create some surrealistic work of "art" based upon the futility of life, acheivement, and the inability to succeed with a huge dash of suicide to boot.  If that's art, then it's beauty is not meant for the masses, but for a select few.

The game had in it reaper tag, calibration jokes, EDI and Liara "hair" jokes, and Shepard's horrible dancing, and at the end we are supposed to think the only way to end it is edgy and artsy?  I know you are right-that's what some people say--Shepard should die, should sacrifice, should blah blah blah.  Yeah, because death is so much more artistic and beautiful and touching than living.

Well, so far my Shepard has had a pretty sucky life, can't she just once have some moments of real happiness where an ungrateful galaxy isn't looking for her to save their sorry butts or a moment where everyone isn't calling her crazy to try to get them to save themselves when they don't see a threat.  I'm pretty sure Shepard earned the right to be alive and happy at the end.  That's how I feel.  At least it should be a possibility.

I totally agree with you.

I loved the lighthearted parts of the games, and I agree that Shepard deserves some happiness. Plus, for me the whole theme of these games was to fight against all odds and never give up. So why should she give up at the last moment?

[Emphyr]

Hi i have some questions.

I am playing my Canon Shep and currently are before Prio (Horizon). I did all i could do in the game.
Me1-> with dlc-> Me2-> with all Dlc imported a save game to ME3.
I play a femshep adept Me1 lev 60 Me 2 max leveled.. imported to Me3. ( after waiting a long time for the face import bug i started weeks later as most of you and my Canon Femshep is back in business ( thans Woodbyte and Holger!)
I am now at TMS 6965 = ems 3482.
I understood Tim is worth 1000 tms so i will get to 7965?
I didnt save Kelly Chambers (: I went for Paragorn so she was shot) (: ( Confusing)
I also dont know what comes after Horizon... but if tim is indeed worth 1000 TMS then i am pretty close to 4000...
Ore do i miss something?

I am gooing to play on to see what happens.
If anyone needs my savegame(s) ore screenshots just yell at me.

Ok on to Horizon with 6965 TMS
Take Care

Edit... I know about the endings.. ( saw it on the forums and on Youtube). But i dont know yet what will happen beeing on  Horizon... and after it... (will i get more war assets ?)

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 08:12 .

[Tonymac]

Emphyr wrote...

Hi i have some questions.

I am playing my Canon Shep and currently are before Prio (Horizon). I did all i could do in the game.
Me1-> with dlc-> Me2-> with all Dlc imported a save game to ME3.
I play a femshep adept Me1 lev 60 Me 2 max leveled.. imported to Me3. ( after waiting a long time for the face import bug i started weeks later as most of you and my Canon Femshep is back in business ( thans Woodbyte and Holger!)
I am now at TMS 6965 = ems 3482.
I understood Tim is worth 1000 tms so i will get to 7965?
I didnt save Kelly Chambers (: I went for Paragorn so she was shot) (: ( Confusing)
I also dont know what comes after Horizon... but if tim is indeed worth 1000 TMS then i am pretty close to 4000...
Ore do i miss something?

I am gooing to play on to see what happens.
If anyone needs my savegame(s) ore screenshots just yell at me.

Ok on to Horizon with 6965 TMS
Take Care

Edit... I know about the endings.. ( saw it on the forums and on Youtube). But i dont know yet what will happen beeing on  Horizon... and after it... (will i get more war assets ?)

That score is totally kosher.  You can double it with it by playing some multiplayer, of course, but you are well over the cap.

(TMS) X (Readiness rating) = EMS

You will see after Horizon.  I'm not going to spoil it for you.

Modifié par Tonymac, 20 juin 2012 - 10:04 .

[Tonymac]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

I find the whole idea of " You MUST choose 1 of these 3" to be laughable.  So much for my boss fights.

The idea that control can work is pretty laughable.  Ok, Mr. Bug....  step into the bug zapper, and once you are dead we will let you control it.  Zzzaaaaaap!  *starchild laughs and walks away*  Stoopid organics!

Going for the Borg green is about as silly.  "We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your vessels.  We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.  Your culture will adapt to service us.  Resistance is Futile."   *Blinks*  yeah....  uhmmmmm, about that....  I love how making the choice for every creature in the galaxy to be auto-assimilated is just so....  easy.  We get  to take free will from every creature in the galaxy!  Isn't that cool?  No wait, thats what the machines want.....

So yes, Cultural - choosing a fiery death is indeed preferable.  I'd rather jump off of a diving board into a deep fat fryer the size of an olympic swimming pool, then have to go through that cheeseball ending.

Only Bioware can write a game that is so bad you look forward to your character screaming in agony as they die - and thats the BEST ending.

[Emphyr]

Ok Done Horizon... took me a while...
i have this now--> 7080

If  Tim is worth 1000 i have done 4000+
But i still dont really know if TIM is worth 1000

OK ill play on... lets see.

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 12:06 .

[Emphyr]

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 11:55 .

[Emphyr]

Sorry double...

But... is TIM really worth 1000 TMS ?

ifso then......i past 4000... I cant believe it ..  there are 3 million players out there!

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 12:12 .

[Tonymac]

so far you have only gained 115 TMS. I would say thus far you have not gotten 1000 EMS out of him, and I do not know if you can.

But, as of yet - you have not defeated him.