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[Talogrungi]

TIM isn't worth 1000; no idea where that fallacy comes from. He can COST you 1000.

If you start the Cerberus Headquarters mission now, you won't have enough EMS to get the "complete" ending (you need 4000/5000 depending on the outcome with TIM).

[Emphyr]

I promise you: I WILL defeat Tim and the reapers also!

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 12:17 .

[Kekkis]

You need that 4000+ before earth mission and then if you play your cards right with TIM you get that breath scene. Otherwise you need 5000+ before earth mission.

That is how I think it works anyway.

[paul165]

Anderson is in a very specific set of circumstances (which you can't get without MP). The score you have is sufficient to get the 'good' blue ending, the green ending or the red ending. What you can't get is the final clip in the red ending which requires MP. Hope that helps.

[Emphyr]

Hold on...

You all are telling me that i cannot save the galaxy? no matter what ive done? ore do?

You are telling me that there is no way for me to "save" my friends?
You are telling me no matter what i do Joker is gooing to run away with the normandy and my friends and my Love?`
even with 20.000 EMS ?

Ifso why should i continue to put energy in Shepards Story ?
I thought ... ( i thougt)  putting plenty of energy in the story .. in the end with enough EMS i could have saved the galaxy..

But i cannot ???
even not with 100.000 EMS?

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 12:48 .

[Gtacatalina]

coolbeans wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I honestly think they expected people to consider destroy the "worst" ending, thus they really didn't think that adding an easter egg to the worst ending would violate their promise about single player.

How bad are the Mass Effect 3 endings? So bad, most people consider the ending where you commit genocide and are badly burned in a fiery explosion while your friends abandon you the "good" one.

When you promise that no single player content will be locked out you dont get to stick in easter eggs for multiplayer in the sp campaign. 

 

Exactly!
And not to forget there are two achievemnets (Defender and master and commander) that you cannot get unless you play multiplayer.

It doesn't matter if the cutscene is Vega flossing his man parts with a towel, it shouldn't be cut out.

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 20 juin 2012 - 12:52 .

[Tonymac]

Emphyr wrote...

Hold on...

You all are telling me that i cannot save the galaxy? no matter what ive done? ore do?

You are telling me that there is no way for me to "save" my friends?
You are telling me no matter what i do Joker is gooing to run away with the normandy and my friends and my Love?`
even with 20.000 EMS ?

Ifso why should i continue to put energy in Shepards Story ?
I thought ... ( i thougt)  putting plenty of energy in the story .. in the end with enough EMS i could have saved the galaxy..

But i cannot ???
even not with 100.000 EMS?

Yes, the ending is that bad.  No matter what, you will end up raped and destroyed, and Joker flies off with your LI to live in a tropical paradise and play naked twister (in oil) all night long, every night. 

[Talogrungi]

Emphyr wrote...

Hold on...

You all are telling me that i cannot save the galaxy? no matter what ive done? ore do?

You are telling me that there is no way for me to "save" my friends?
You are telling me no matter what i do Joker is gooing to run away with the normandy and my friends and my Love?`
even with 20.000 EMS ?

Ifso why should i continue to put energy in Shepards Story ?
I thought ... ( i thougt)  putting plenty of energy in the story .. in the end with enough EMS i could have saved the galaxy..

But i cannot ???
even not with 100.000 EMS?

You can save the galaxy with any amount of EMS.

The sad thing is that, regardless of how much you get, and regardless of the choices you make .. you may ultimately question why you bothered to save it at all.

[shodiswe]

The MP N7 team I got from multiplayer seems to drop in and out during missions, (game bug) even if I stay conected the whole time.

This makes it impossible for me to know if the N7 additional Military strength is added to my EMS or no during gameplay or cutscenes.... It feels a little rickety.

Modifié par shodiswe, 20 juin 2012 - 01:08 .

[shodiswe]

The cut scenes to warry a little between very low to medium/high amounts of EMS.

But im dissapointed in the way warassets are represented over all. And the ending ofcourse..

[Emphyr]

[Emphyr]

If Bioware has told me : Shepard cannot save the Galaxy" no matter what you do  first ... PLAY MP   PLAY MP

Why would i have cured the Genophage?
Why would i have saved ppl on Feros?
why would i have saved Ashley on Virmire?
Why would i have saved the Rachni Queen?

Why cant all the decions i took finally DO matter in the Ending?
Why do i have to die? Why do i have to blow up the Mass relays?

Why did Joker run away from me?
even with 20.000 EMS..

I am upset. i just finished the game... I tried to get 4000 Ems But it doesnt matter at all...
4000 5000 10.000 20.0000
its all bad ...

I want Shepard to live.......

And then you Bioware! you promised ! You Promised MP would not effect SP in any way.. Oh well..

you lied! and you keep on ignoring it....

Well i think i am not the only one.. I will ignore you.
I better put money in Wasteland 2 now.

I did hope you BW would tell us about EMS and it should be not needed to play MP... You didnt.. You ignore .... well from now on i will ignore you.

I do understand you have great writers... and game makers... But Your PR ppl are terrible! really terrible.

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 01:54 .

[DamonD7]

^^^^ well...sorry man...all I can say is:

[Emphyr]

Well.. Mac Walters and Casey Hudson thougt the ending was OK.....
So i guess it is OK?

Only.. i dont understand....

I really dont. I just finished the game.
with 3978 EMS
still i died....

[zakaryzb]

Emphyr wrote...

Well.. Mac Walters and Casey Hudson thougt the ending was OK.....
So i guess it is OK?

Only.. i dont understand....

I really dont. I just finished the game.
with 3978 EMS
still i died....

Just 20 min of multiplayer would have saved you. But seriously, 22 EMS short is just ridiculous...

[Emphyr]

The thingy that is most upsetting me.....

BW ( some ) Like Thomas Abram , and Mike Gamble... they say it is possible to finish the game withouth playing MP...witth 4000+ Ems  They really said that!

I wonder if they even ever have played the game .... ???
from start (Me1) to Finish (Me3)...

played it with their own personal Shep... ?

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 02:23 .

[Tonymac]

Look Emphyr - you die no matter what.

Thats how they wrote it. The lead writer, the developers - they hate us. Judge this by their actions - by what they wrote and how they made the game ending. Thats your thank you for sticking with them through a trilogy - and for being a loyal fan. You get raped and killed. Your LI gets stolen from you. The galaxy is a mess, and no mass relays are around. Worse, planets are a mess, and no one will be able to make it home. Many will starve. We do not have the technology to rebuild very quicky with the industrial centers of all major planets destroyed. Most of the fuel depots are gone as well - as well as the means of collecting said fuel. We will have to start over from scratch - the whole galaxy is a mess.

[Talogrungi]

Emphyr wrote...

The thingy that is most upsetting me.....

BW ( some ) Like Thomas Abram , and Mike Gamble... they say it is possible to finish the game withouth playing MP...witth 4000+ Ems  They really said that!

I wonder if they even ever have played the game .... ???
from start (Me1) to Finish (Me3)...

played it with their own personal Shep... ?

To be fair and accurate, I don't think a developer has ever said that it's possible to achieve 4000+ EMS without multiplayer or one of the iOS applications. I believe the statement made was that it was possible to get "the best ending" without multiplayer; and though I haven't seen it expressly stated, from their perspective "the best ending" seems to be Synthesis.

Can't rightly remember where I saw the statement. I know it was a forum sticky, but I can't remember in which one and wasn't able to locate it before my attention wandered. I remember it was edited post-launch for Clarity.

Heh, sound familiar?

It's hair splitting semantics, but still. Gotta be accurate.

[3DandBeyond]

Kekkis wrote...

You need that 4000+ before earth mission and then if you play your cards right with TIM you get that breath scene. Otherwise you need 5000+ before earth mission.

That is how I think it works anyway.

Yes, with the 4000+, but it depends on what you've done along the way in order to make certain things possible with TIM.

Also, you really really want more than 5000 or there might be dire consequences when Harbinger shoots at Shepard and friends.

[Emphyr]

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 juin 2012 - 02:46 .

[Emphyr]

yeh yeah yeah....

Great game!

[3DandBeyond]

Talogrungi wrote...

Emphyr wrote...

The thingy that is most upsetting me.....

BW ( some ) Like Thomas Abram , and Mike Gamble... they say it is possible to finish the game withouth playing MP...witth 4000+ Ems  They really said that!

I wonder if they even ever have played the game .... ???
from start (Me1) to Finish (Me3)...

played it with their own personal Shep... ?

To be fair and accurate, I don't think a developer has ever said that it's possible to achieve 4000+ EMS without multiplayer or one of the iOS applications. I believe the statement made was that it was possible to get "the best ending" without multiplayer; and though I haven't seen it expressly stated, from their perspective "the best ending" seems to be Synthesis.

Can't rightly remember where I saw the statement. I know it was a forum sticky, but I can't remember in which one and wasn't able to locate it before my attention wandered. I remember it was edited post-launch for Clarity.

Heh, sound familiar?

It's hair splitting semantics, but still. Gotta be accurate.

Well, to be perfectly honest, yes best is subjective but so are other things within the game.  And using a term such as "best" to describe something where players can have different interpretations in a game that has been about player interpretation is plain wrong.

Consider that they've constantly said there is no canon in the game and yet, what did they then do if Synthesis is their "best" ending?  They created the most egregious form of canon within it.  Of course, if they truly think Synthesis is the "best" ending then they need to stop making games right now.  They are done and I'm no longer on the fence, I'm done too.

Now, don't get me wrong.  I don't think Destroy or Control are "best" endings either.  I think it's rather a race to the bottom as to which is worst.  But, what most people wanted was some possible scenario in which Shepard lives (more than that of course) and so they hold onto that extra 10 seconds as some sort of carrot dangled in front of their faces.  The rest of the choice that leads to that is horrible.  The ramifications of it, ridiculous.  And then the reason why that 10 seconds exist at all are further proof that someone needs to stop smoking whatever they are smoking.  It's having longterm consequences.  However, Shepard's torso is one of those moments that will go down in gaming history as one of the most satisfying endings ever (in a parallel universe).  Unfortunately, for a lot of us it's not the best ending, but the "best" hope in the ending.

[Gtacatalina]

Emphyr wrote...

I really dont. I just finished the game.
with 3978 EMS
still i died....

Any chance of a screen with that EMS score?

I don't know anyone that's gone over 3700EMS without playing multiplayer

[Emphyr]

Before i go to sleep...
(which i do in 5 minutes)

I tried to get 4000 EMS.. I did! iw was hoping that 4000+ Ems would save Myshep.
It did not.

It sucks..
and what even more sucks... i know Shep can be alive (breathing)
but without MP it cannot be seen.

You did well BW !

[Emphyr]

Gtacatalina wrote...

Emphyr wrote...

I really dont. I just finished the game.
with 3978 EMS
still i died....

Any chance of a screen with that EMS score?

I don't know anyone that's gone over 3700EMS without playing multiplayer

yes you can have my savegame..