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[Martanek]

IsaacShep wrote...

This is not a 'bug', let's be honest here. 500+ missing War Assets to get 4000+ EMS (at 50% Readiness) ain't just a lil "omission", it was deliberate. I can understand everything (like for example the increased number of variables without increased development time which forced them to reduce number of dialogue options) but this I can't look at in anyway other than blatant attempt to force people to play MP. Sorry BW

Thanks for openly stating what is considered a public secret in the BW forums. Instead of facing this issue – and also other gameplay-related problems – with all seriousness, Bioware is playing deaf and ignorant. Admitting a fault is not a weakness, it is how Bioware reacts to any sign of relevant criticism. How Bioware has been treating their community since ME3's launch is very sad and discouraging. Is it still Bioware behind the Bioware logo and their responses?

[Icinix]

Ravennus wrote...

I thought people might find this interesting..... "Evil" Chris Priestly admits himself, via Twitter, that the Tech forums are for users helping users and that Bioware devs don't have anything to do with them....

http://twitter.com/#...912559911022594  (FIXED)

So what can we conclude about the way EA/Bioware views our issue?

Yup...  stay classy guys....

In Chris's defence - it has said that at the top of the tech forums since the Social Network site was in Beta.

[TheRealJayDee]

Icinix wrote...

Ravennus wrote...

I thought people might find this interesting..... "Evil" Chris Priestly admits himself, via Twitter, that the Tech forums are for users helping users and that Bioware devs don't have anything to do with them....

http://twitter.com/#...912559911022594  (FIXED)

So what can we conclude about the way EA/Bioware views our issue?

Yup...  stay classy guys....

In Chris's defence - it has said that at the top of the tech forums since the Social Network site was in Beta.

Still, locking threads on highly debated issues Bioware claimed to have fixed and sending the people to the tech forums, where by the rules the devs have no reason to even look at it...?

[Icinix]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Ravennus wrote...

I thought people might find this interesting..... "Evil" Chris Priestly admits himself, via Twitter, that the Tech forums are for users helping users and that Bioware devs don't have anything to do with them....

http://twitter.com/#...912559911022594  (FIXED)

So what can we conclude about the way EA/Bioware views our issue?

Yup...  stay classy guys....

In Chris's defence - it has said that at the top of the tech forums since the Social Network site was in Beta.

Still, locking threads on highly debated issues Bioware claimed to have fixed and sending the people to the tech forums, where by the rules the devs have no reason to even look at it...?

Oh for sure, I think they're handling of everying ME3 has been pretty poor, but was just pointing out the point that the tech forums have always been users / users and have never hidden that fact.

[Tietj]

In my opinion this is the worst example of what has happened with this game, and the official response to it. Unlike the ending debacle, this is a verifiable issue which has been proven over and over and gone unaddressed. And it's so easily fixed.

And forcing us to take the issue to the tech forums has another effect: the people most affected by this issue are console users without an internet connection to their console. As a result, they can't register their games. And can't post in the tech forum. Even those of us who can post there are restricted to the forum of the platform we have games registered for. So at the very least we're divided into thirds, less if you count those who can't register and therefore have the most cause to complain.

[Tietj]

Incidentally, Mike Gamble tweeted this today in response to someone who complained about this: "Of the 3 choices, you have access to all 3 with just SP. You are not limited that way."

[MsKlaussen]

Gtacatalina wrote...

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

Does it really matter at this point?. You never get to see your "assets" in battle. You only know of the ones working on the Crucible because of the logs you read at Liara's terminal.

Seriously. What is the point of getting a "different" ending?. How many videos have been made, showing the little to no difference between each ending?.

Why are you guys still trying?.  

For me it's the principle of the matter. They said that multiplayer would not effect the single player experience. Well multiplayer has effected the single player experience!

Not only can I not get enough EMS to get that ending, I also cannot get The Master & Commander and The Defender achievements!

Don't forget the other oft reported surprise which is that not only do you have to play multiplayer, you have to continue to play multiplayer or you will lose what you've gained. Or so say multiple people in that other thread.

To Rodia:

People continue to make the current endings a synonymous issue with the forced multiplayer. It is not. Whether or not you like the existing endings, only people who play multiplayer get them all.

When Microsoft hobbled your paid products based on your refusal to use their embedded products over those bundled by others, the Department of Justice wanted to talk it over with them. Surely it's not too much to ask for customers to be able to talk over conditionally content-complete paid games in a game forum with other gamers and company reps?

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 05 mai 2012 - 01:30 .

[NightAntilli]

I actually managed to get a TMS of 8143, which means with 50% readiness, it is possible to get 4000+ EMS. It was my perfect ME2 playthrough import though, so if you play with a new character or have some bad decisions lingering above your head from prior games, it's probably not possible. But it obviously can be done, and I even ruined a handful of sidequests (three I think).

[Icinix]

NightAntilli wrote...

I actually managed to get a TMS of 8143, which means with 50% readiness, it is possible to get 4000+ EMS. It was my perfect ME2 playthrough import though, so if you play with a new character or have some bad decisions lingering above your head from prior games, it's probably not possible. But it obviously can be done, and I even ruined a handful of sidequests (three I think).

I've had a few different saves that have been 'perfect' from ME1 and have yet to see anything over about 3800 EMS.

Have seen some saves where some individiual points have doubled, but these appear to be bugging out when compared to the base levels in the files.

There is a bug mucking something up somewhere, its either bugging up and giving higher scores to a few people, or bugging out and giving a lower score to the majority.

[Ravennus]

NightAntilli wrote...

I actually managed to get a TMS of 8143, which means with 50% readiness, it is possible to get 4000+ EMS. It was my perfect ME2 playthrough import though, so if you play with a new character or have some bad decisions lingering above your head from prior games, it's probably not possible. But it obviously can be done, and I even ruined a handful of sidequests (three I think).

Great job!

Now please post a screenshot, along with a complete guide as to how you got that much TMS without multiplayer or iOS apps.
Oh, and also explain how you got almost the max possible amount of war assets possible in single player, including mutually exlusive assets and yet still somehow 'ruined a handful of sidequests'.

Inquiring minds want to know!

Modifié par Ravennus, 05 mai 2012 - 02:41 .

[Ravennus]

Tietj wrote...

Incidentally, Mike Gamble tweeted this today in response to someone who complained about this: "Of the 3 choices, you have access to all 3 with just SP. You are not limited that way."

....makes me sick.

I can't wait until the EC comes out.  If they don't fix it by then, the crapstorm will be glorious.

[RocketManSR2]

BioWare, FIX THIS F***ING GAME! Ahem, if it's so damn easy to get the "breathe" scene playing just SP, then post a damn guide telling us how! Otherwise, GTFO.

[RocketManSR2]

Ravennus wrote...

Tietj wrote...

Incidentally, Mike Gamble tweeted this today in response to someone who complained about this: "Of the 3 choices, you have access to all 3 with just SP. You are not limited that way."

....makes me sick.

I can't wait until the EC comes out.  If they don't fix it by then, the crapstorm will be glorious.

Just before the forum implodes with the force of 1,000,000 black holes.

[Ravennus]

Icinix wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Ravennus wrote...

I thought people might find this interesting..... "Evil" Chris Priestly admits himself, via Twitter, that the Tech forums are for users helping users and that Bioware devs don't have anything to do with them....

http://twitter.com/#...912559911022594  (FIXED)

So what can we conclude about the way EA/Bioware views our issue?

Yup...  stay classy guys....

In Chris's defence - it has said that at the top of the tech forums since the Social Network site was in Beta.

Still, locking threads on highly debated issues Bioware claimed to have fixed and sending the people to the tech forums, where by the rules the devs have no reason to even look at it...?

Oh for sure, I think they're handling of everying ME3 has been pretty poor, but was just pointing out the point that the tech forums have always been users / users and have never hidden that fact.

Oh, I know that has been the description of the tech forum for a long time.... however, it's also been an unspoken fact for years that Bioware has looked to those forums for potential bugs and even posted to them on various occasions.

But with Mr. Priestly tweeting what he did, to a fan likely inquiring about the Face Import/EMS threads being locked and moved, we can essentially determine a few points...

1) They are washing their hands of the matter.

Hey, at least the Face Import issue got a (insufficient) patch before being tossed into the tech forums.
We haven't even had proper acknowledgment... and no, a private twitter comment to a single fan does not count.
Even worse, Mike Gamble is now essentially tweeting "Be happy with what you get"

So no, you are not addressing the issue or looking into it.
Forcing us into seperate tech support forums and then also saying...

"The tech forums are for fans to help fans as it says in the description. Official support is not on the BSN"

...tells us that you have no interest in officially supporting this issue.


2) They are basically telling us to "L2P" (Learn to Play)

As he reiterates on Twitter, the tech forums are for fans to help fans.  So is he saying that we are doing it wrong?  That it's up to other fans to help us to play the game properly and get the necessary War Assets without multiplayer or iOS apps?
Sure seems that way to me.

This is pretty much exactly what they've told the Face Import people too, except in their case they are directing them to other fans who can fix their issue through mods and fan fixes.  *sigh*


3) EA/Bioware is not listening

They herd everyone into a mega-thread on the issue, locking down all others.
Then they lock down the mega-thread and force everyone to seperate into the different tech support forums.
Forums which they say are simply user-to-user and are not officially supported.

Would they do this if they were listening?  No

Actions speak louder than words, guys.
Oh, but have they even given us some solid acknowledgement that they even think this is an issue?
Nope, not even that.



Before anyone (or even Chris himself) jumps on me.... yes, much of this is speculation.
But what else are we left with?

You won't talk to us, you won't acknowledge the issue in a proper way, and you won't listen to us.  What are we left to think?

[Ravennus]

I have the link for the Mike Gamble tweet, if anyone wants to see it...

http://twitter.com/#...448685594591234



Remember though, this is from the same guy that said things like...

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…”

http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/

Funny how he now admits to there just being 3 choices, eh?




And even better, this quote....

Q: Just to be clear, you don’t HAVE to play multiplayer even though it affects the single player game, yes?
MW: I’m always leery of saying there are “optimal”
endings, because I think one of the things we do try to do is make
different endings that are optimal for different people, but I know what
they mean, they’re talking about the gameplay optimal ending, and the
single player has all of the assets that you need to be able
to achieve that.

http://business.fina...-all-audiences/



So yeah, there you have it.

Modifié par Ravennus, 05 mai 2012 - 03:36 .

[Xarathox]

CG Drum wrote...

And if it is a bug can you give us any idea of when this issue will be resolved?

Never.

Just about every bug that affects MP now has been there since the demo came out. They appear to have no intrest in fixing bugs, but love to re-balance classes/weapons/mods on a weekly basis.

I also haven't seen a single "patch" for SP either since launch.

[RocketManSR2]

Xarathox wrote...

Never.

Just about every bug that affects MP now has been there since the demo came out. They appear to have no intrest in fixing bugs, but love to re-balance classes/weapons/mods on a weekly basis.

I also haven't seen a single "patch" for SP either since launch.

But, but......all those that defended MP being in ME3 said "Shut up. It won't affect the SP at all."

[MegaSovereign]

Even if they DO fix the issue and increase the overall maximum assets to 8000, it still wouldn't change the fact that in order to get the highest tier ending (4000 EMS) you must follow a very strict path while playing the game.

The only real permanent fix to this is to play enough MP until you promote a dozen or so characters into SP which will add war assets....

I'm disappointed in Bioware in this regard. They promised it wouldn't affect the single player experience. Broken promises are not cool.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 05 mai 2012 - 03:39 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Get a Mod, can't use a mod? too bad get a PC then.

[Kmack11]

ohupthis wrote...

Get a Mod, can't use a mod? too bad get a PC then.

No.

[Dimensio]

ohupthis wrote...

Get a Mod, can't use a mod? too bad get a PC then.

Your dismissive and insulting statement does not validate BioWare's demonstrably dishonest claims to consumers.

BioWare staff claimed that "all endings" would be available entirely through single-player gameplay.

Analysis of game data files have proven such a claim false.

BioWare staff now seem to be stating that the game is working as intended.

BioWare staff therefore have demonstrably lied.

[CG Drum]

OMG - can't believe that they closed the original thread down then sent us to forums where they don't have any input! Can the way they are handling this get any worse?

I also can't believe they just won't just up the GR as a patch - they would make so many customers happy - but then that doesn't seem to be something they are bothered about. I mean these are only the same people that they want to buy their next game - why would they possibly want to keep them happy!!!!

[Kalas82]

i actualy never complained bout the way mp is needed for sp, my complaints were focused on the ending of ME3.
Currently i`m in the situation that i don`t want to play the mp anymore, but i wanted to give ME3-sp a second shot recently .....but guess what, since i haven`t played mp for quite a while (omg a whole week 11111), my galaxy-readiness-blabla dropped heavy.
Now i do understand why so many people complain bout the mp+sp-part of the game. Guess it doesn`t affect me, cause i got somewhat around N1450, but the mechanic sure sucks and i honestly don`t think this is "good" gamedesign. Some people will be forced to play MP currently and ME3 is a sp game..so this just doesn`t make any sense.

[NightAntilli]

Ravennus wrote...

NightAntilli wrote...

I actually managed to get a TMS of 8143, which means with 50% readiness, it is possible to get 4000+ EMS. It was my perfect ME2 playthrough import though, so if you play with a new character or have some bad decisions lingering above your head from prior games, it's probably not possible. But it obviously can be done, and I even ruined a handful of sidequests (three I think).

Great job!

Now please post a screenshot, along with a complete guide as to how you got that much TMS without multiplayer or iOS apps.
Oh, and also explain how you got almost the max possible amount of war assets possible in single player, including mutually exlusive assets and yet still somehow 'ruined a handful of sidequests'.

Inquiring minds want to know!

The best screen I can give you right now is this, since I can't set readiness to 50%, or I would have to wait till it drops back to 50%, but it's an obvious calculation.. I can't post a guide in this thread since no spoilers are allowed. I can tell you the quests that I ruined though. Barla Von, Kelly Chambers (don't kow if she matters) and... Don't remember the last one. And I went full Paragon btw.

[HunterF]

 I, too, shall post a picture!  You see!  Proof positive that it is indeed possible to get over 8000 TMS without multiplayer!  And before anyone asks, no, I did not deliberately take the time to scroll the list down and hide the Alliance section so you guys wouldn't see all the multiplayer characters I DIDN'T promote.  Because that would be dishonest.

Modifié par HunterF, 05 mai 2012 - 08:35 .